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 Post #41
 2nd November 2009
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WPlayer's Avatar
November 2007
3,150 Posts
remember, the tooltip can only show 5 things max. It's hardcoded in due to the console version (however the weapons can have way more stats)
so no matter how much you decrease the font size, it'll only show 5 of the *insert number here*
 Post #42
 2nd November 2009
Snapzies's Avatar
March 2008
1,100 Posts
Can someone post the default to borderlands>willowgame>localization>INT>GFxUI? I lost my backup and I don't like the font
 Post #43
 2nd November 2009
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Loofiloo's Avatar
April 2006
6,582 Posts
remember, the tooltip can only show 5 things max. It's hardcoded in due to the console version (however the weapons can have way more stats)
so no matter how much you decrease the font size, it'll only show 5 of the *insert number here*
Wow... I have to put this up there as one of the dumbest decisions they've made for this game.

Let's make a game with a ton of various random drops and lots of stat modifiers, but let's not tell people the differences between all the items.
 Post #44
 2nd November 2009
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kukiric's Avatar
July 2006
4,180 Posts
That's why you gotta test and get feeling of new guns, of so much there are.
And sell them after knowing it won't even hurt a adult skag with an entire clip.
 Post #45
 2nd November 2009
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Loofiloo's Avatar
April 2006
6,582 Posts
In an ideal game, I wouldn't have to.
 Post #46
 2nd November 2009
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Boyblunder's Avatar
March 2006
8,260 Posts
There's no way it's intentional you idiots.
 Post #47
 2nd November 2009
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Dennab
November 2007
6,260 Posts
It's still something really hard not to notice unless the playtesters didn't know what they were doing.
 Post #48
 2nd November 2009
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Boyblunder's Avatar
March 2006
8,260 Posts
I don't know. They probably didn't know. I don't think this would be intentional, especially since the information is still there, and you can squeeze one more line out of it.
 Post #49
 2nd November 2009
SFArial's Avatar
May 2009
582 Posts
Wait so why are rarer weapons better? What are those extra stats?
 Post #50
 2nd November 2009
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Loofiloo's Avatar
April 2006
6,582 Posts
There's no way it's intentional you idiots.
No, it definitely is. It may or may not have been intentional to make the font too big to display more than 4 attributes, but when the game is set to hide any attributes beyond the fifth one, somebody had to purposely make that happen.
 Post #51
 2nd November 2009
Dj-J3's Avatar
November 2008
3,781 Posts
This thread just went from:

It's a horrible bug, omg i can't believe they didn't see it before releasing the game!!!

To:

It's intentional, gearbox ur the bset!!!!
 Post #52
 2nd November 2009
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Dennab
November 2007
6,260 Posts
No, it definitely is. It may or may not have been intentional to make the font too big to display more than 4 attributes, but when the game is set to hide any attributes beyond the fifth one, somebody had to purposely make that happen.
I wonder if it's possible to change that with some console command, but I heard the console is extremely buggy.
 Post #53
 2nd November 2009
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Loofiloo's Avatar
April 2006
6,582 Posts
This thread just went from:

It's a horrible bug, omg i can't believe they didn't see it before releasing the game!!!

To:

It's intentional, gearbox ur the bset!!!!
Have you read the thread at all?

First we saw that they made the shitty mistake of making the font too big.
Then we found out that they consciously made it so that the game displays no more than 5 attributes, even when an item has more.

First we thought they were dumb for letting an error like an over-large font size slip out in the release.
Then we found out that they're dumber for purposely hiding extra stats.
 Post #54
 2nd November 2009
Muntu's Avatar
August 2009
446 Posts
Oh wow. Finding out worse and worse stuff about this game. Yeah the game's a lot of fun, but tbh they have fucked up a lot now.
 Post #55
 2nd November 2009
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venn177's Avatar
January 2007
6,675 Posts
Oh baw. They will probably have a patch out sooner rather than later, though.
 Post #56
 2nd November 2009
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January 2009
1,340 Posts
Oh baw. They will probably have a patch out sooner rather than later, though.
I'll have to agree with Venn here. I'm still having fun, and that's the important part, right?

Still, it's a silly mistake that should have been noticed during playtesting.
 Post #57
 2nd November 2009
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Dennab
November 2007
6,260 Posts
Oh baw. They will probably have a patch out sooner rather than later, though.
Yeah, lets hope they patch the pirated versions working online too, I kinda feel ripped off knowing I paid for a game when a pirated copy can do everything the legit one does.
 Post #58
 2nd November 2009
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March 2007
3,649 Posts
so that's why my gun was much more expensive than all my gear
 Post #59
 2nd November 2009
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September 2006
253 Posts
Yeah, lets hope they patch the pirated versions working online too, I kinda feel ripped off knowing I paid for a game when a pirated copy can do everything the legit one does.
Nothing wrong with trying it before you buy it. I thought it looked stupid until I tried it, now I own it.

Edited:

Aslong as you buy it..
 Post #60
 2nd November 2009
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Dennab
February 2007
5,548 Posts
Mother FUCKERS. All the class mods and rares I've sold, God fucking DAMN IT.
 Post #61
 2nd November 2009
z-machine's Avatar
September 2006
253 Posts
Mother FUCKERS. All the class mods and rares I've sold, God fucking DAMN IT.
Oh yeah.
 Post #62
 2nd November 2009
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October 2008
818 Posts
I hope to hell they do something in the next patch. I was wondering why my lvl. 43 rifle was so much better than a unique 48. Freaking ridiculous.
 Post #63
 2nd November 2009
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August 2008
3,830 Posts
I hope to hell they do something in the next patch. I was wondering why my lvl. 43 rifle was so much better than a unique 48. Freaking ridiculous.
proficiency also has something to do with it.
 Post #64
 2nd November 2009
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Specter's Avatar
January 2005
2,544 Posts
proficiency also has something to do with it.
Only a little though. Level 12 will give you 12% damage increase with some other little extras but nothing wholly significant.
 Post #65
 2nd November 2009
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Dennab
August 2007
3,958 Posts
Which config file do you edit, and what do you put in it? Thanks.
 Post #66
 2nd November 2009
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Dennab
August 2007
6,919 Posts
Which config file do you edit, and what do you put in it? Thanks.
Don't bother, it won't fix it.
 Post #67
 2nd November 2009
Dennab
October 2009
642 Posts
Which config file do you edit, and what do you put in it? Thanks.
Don't bother, it won't fix it.
He could just use the font size edit to see 5 instead of 4
 Post #68
 3rd November 2009
Dennab
June 2009
817 Posts
No fucking wonder that epic pistol with shit stats is so damn good.

This is really bumming me out, there have been times where I get a high level item and just chuck it because the stats didn't look good. Plus I don't want to haul it around with me testing it out on every other enemy reading the tiny numbers flying out of their body while trying to compare it to all of my other fucking guns.

Oh well, hope they patch it.
 Post #69
 3rd November 2009
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Lazor's Avatar
July 2007
3,022 Posts
I'm going to start comparing the hex code in my save file for weapons, at the very least we can figure out if guns with more than 5 descriptors exist.
 Post #70
 3rd November 2009
Supacasey's Avatar
May 2007
1,562 Posts
I'm going to start comparing the hex code in my save file for weapons, at the very least we can figure out if guns with more than 5 descriptors exist.
People think there are more than 5 stats, but because of the way the game is hard coded no more than 5 are visible. This is purely based on the fact that someone had a sniper rifle with 5 stats but no stats describing its zoom value, which everyone thinks every sniper rifle must have.

...No word from gearbox yet.
 Post #71
 3rd November 2009
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Lazor's Avatar
July 2007
3,022 Posts
People think there are more than 5 stats, but because of the way the game is hard coded no more than 5 are visible. This is purely based on the fact that someone had a sniper rifle with 5 stats but no stats describing its zoom value, which everyone thinks every sniper rifle must have.

...No word from gearbox yet.
Apparently there was a picture of a sniper rifle with 3 descriptors and a scope but no zoom stat, so we have no idea at this point. Our best bet is to find a 2 line descriptor(there are some red ones with 2 lines I think) and see if it's cut off.
 Post #72
 3rd November 2009
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Dennab
September 2006
6,383 Posts
snip
 Post #73
 3rd November 2009
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Night-Eagle's Avatar
January 2005
2,414 Posts
Might be related:
0:30
"Uhm, so, it looks like every gun has, like, 20 or so stats, so, I'm not really sure what - MAINSTREAM'D"


It's fun to take shit out of context.
 Post #74
 3rd November 2009
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Lazor's Avatar
July 2007
3,022 Posts
Updated OP with new info.
 Post #75
 3rd November 2009
Dennab
October 2009
642 Posts
Adding another elemental effect produce only 5 lines.


Removing the Chimera title reveal there's indeed a modifier missing from the previous shot.
.
 Post #76
 3rd November 2009
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Lazor's Avatar
July 2007
3,022 Posts
Gearbox has finally acknowledged the issue.

http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com...4&postcount=14
 Post #77
 3rd November 2009
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venn177's Avatar
January 2007
6,675 Posts
Gearbox has finally acknowledged the issue.

http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com...4&postcount=14
Oh baw. They will probably have a patch out sooner rather than later, though.
I fucking called it.
 Post #78
 3rd November 2009
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KStyleAzure's Avatar
May 2008
16,302 Posts
Wait, so do mods apply before or after the stats that you see on top of the weapon display?
 Post #79
 3rd November 2009
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Lazor's Avatar
July 2007
3,022 Posts
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 Post #80
 4th November 2009
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Gmod_User's Avatar
January 2006
2,221 Posts
Oh fuck, all those weapons i threw out.

Welp
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