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 Post #81
 4th November 2009
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Gmod4ever's Avatar
August 2005
13,220 Posts
Doesn't explain why weapons blue weapons with only three modifiers are worse than white items with one modifier, though.

Which I get a lot.
 Post #82
 4th November 2009
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Lazor's Avatar
July 2007
3,022 Posts
Gee, I dunno, maybe the fact that the loot is random has something to do with it?
 Post #83
 4th November 2009
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January 2005
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Doesn't explain why weapons blue weapons with only three modifiers are worse than white items with one modifier, though.

Which I get a lot.
A rifle that does 300 damage with a level requirement of 30 is worth much less than a rifle doing 300 damage with a level requirement of 20. Perhaps this is the case?
 Post #84
 4th November 2009
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Dennab
November 2007
6,260 Posts
Doesn't explain why weapons blue weapons with only three modifiers are worse than white items with one modifier, though.

Which I get a lot.
Rarity doesn't mean stronger, I have a white rocket launcher that does way more damage than a purple one I also got.

I do have an awesome class mod for soldier that regenerates team ammo at incredible speeds, I never run out of rockets and they never run out of ammo
 Post #85
 4th November 2009
Yahnich's Avatar
October 2009
1,779 Posts
Doesn't explain why weapons blue weapons with only three modifiers are worse than white items with one modifier, though.

Which I get a lot.
Here's a bit of math for you.

White weapon does 157 damage and has 10% recoil reduction right?

Well, then there's this seemingly worse blue weapon, with only 121 damage right? But those modifiers are a dandy 2.4 zoom, +150% critical damage bonus and +50% damage bonus with 20% rate of fire bonus.


Do the calculations. Now imagine that sexy 50% damage bonus being hidden because less important stuff like zoom is filling up that slot. Now imagine you sold that weapon because you thought it sucked.



Now, proceed to rage.
 Post #86
 4th November 2009 Last edited by Jugulum; 4th November 2009 at 10:59AM..
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January 2009
1,340 Posts
Here's a bit of math for you.

White weapon does 157 damage and has 10% recoil reduction right?

Well, then there's this seemingly worse blue weapon, with only 121 damage right? But those modifiers are a dandy 2.4 zoom, +150% critical damage bonus and +50% damage bonus with 20% rate of fire bonus.


Do the calculations. Now imagine that sexy 50% damage bonus being hidden because less important stuff like zoom is filling up that slot. Now imagine you sold that weapon because you thought it sucked.



Now, proceed to rage.
I believe that the damage bonus is already added to the damage modifier of the weapon already, so it should still show 50% more damage than a default weapon of that type.

Anyway, I don't find all that many weapons with 5(+) modifiers, it's mostly just orange weapons with elemental damage, since that takes up 3 lines (elemental description and red flavor text), so you haven't missed all that much, really. And on those items that misses a line, it's usually the scope, so you can easily see if it's there anyway.
 Post #87
 4th November 2009 Last edited by TheTalon; 4th November 2009 at 12:21PM..
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June 2008
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Just so you know, they are going to fix this in the upcoming PC patch, or it's atleast being 'investigated' so they're looking at it

known issues:

-Issue: some items have more attributes than the item card is capable of displaying
-Status: under investigation
 Post #88
 4th November 2009
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Specter's Avatar
January 2005
2,544 Posts
Rarity doesn't mean stronger, I have a white rocket launcher that does way more damage than a purple one I also got.

I do have an awesome class mod for soldier that regenerates team ammo at incredible speeds, I never run out of rockets and they never run out of ammo
Ditto. My classmod gives me +6 team ammo regen plus some extra perks to skills. I love it.
 Post #89
 5th November 2009
Dennab
April 2009
2,796 Posts
Is it possible to remove "does fire damage, pwnz flesh" lines to see possibly hidden lines?
 Post #90
 5th November 2009
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Gmod4ever's Avatar
August 2005
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Here's a bit of math for you.

White weapon does 157 damage and has 10% recoil reduction right?

Well, then there's this seemingly worse blue weapon, with only 121 damage right? But those modifiers are a dandy 2.4 zoom, +150% critical damage bonus and +50% damage bonus with 20% rate of fire bonus.


Do the calculations. Now imagine that sexy 50% damage bonus being hidden because less important stuff like zoom is filling up that slot. Now imagine you sold that weapon because you thought it sucked.



Now, proceed to rage.
Your math is correct.

And moot when said rarer item has none of the above modifiers.

 Post #91
 5th November 2009
Dennab
June 2009
2,558 Posts
Ive not found an item yet with 6 lines.
 Post #92
 5th November 2009
Dennab
July 2009
319 Posts
holy shit how did gearbox didn't notice this
 Post #93
 6th November 2009
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imadaman's Avatar
August 2008
4,215 Posts
Ive not found an item yet with 6 lines.
Because you have not read the threads.
If you remove the 4 line limit, the new limit'll be 5 lines.
 Post #94
 7th November 2009
Zanpa's Avatar
August 2008
463 Posts
Here's a bit of math for you.

White weapon does 157 damage and has 10% recoil reduction right?

Well, then there's this seemingly worse blue weapon, with only 121 damage right? But those modifiers are a dandy 2.4 zoom, +150% critical damage bonus and +50% damage bonus with 20% rate of fire bonus.


Do the calculations. Now imagine that sexy 50% damage bonus being hidden because less important stuff like zoom is filling up that slot. Now imagine you sold that weapon because you thought it sucked.



Now, proceed to rage.
Or don't. Because the damage, accuracy etc. modifiers are already included in the stats of the weapon.
 Post #95
 7th November 2009
Yahnich's Avatar
October 2009
1,779 Posts
They are? What's the goddamned point in showing them then?
 Post #96
 7th November 2009
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Night-Eagle's Avatar
January 2005
2,414 Posts
If they aren't already accounted for in the stats, I have a rifle that has about 103% accuracy.
 Post #97
 7th November 2009
Zanpa's Avatar
August 2008
463 Posts
They are? What's the goddamned point in showing them then?
Ask the guys up there at Gearbox.
 Post #98
 7th November 2009 Last edited by guardia; 7th November 2009 at 07:38PM..
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November 2009
5 Posts
Yeah, I've got it for PS3. Fuck.
It'd be nice if they updated this through PSN when/and if they do ever patch this.
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