1. Post #121
    DaysBefore's Avatar
    December 2009
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    Couldn't they just launch dirty bombs though? Not necessarily high-explosive nuclear, but just spread radiation around? There could even be a quest to go through some ruins that a bomb impacted to disable it because it's irradiating a water source.
    They very well could have, but think about it. The Pre-War American Government was absolutely convinced that only they, and those they annexed, were entitled to the world. They knew that they were the Number 1 target for every Dirty Commie out there. Likely, the intended to take the Reds out with them. And the Reds most likely thought the same way. Mutual Assured Destruction on a scale not even Reagan could comprehend.
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  2. Post #122
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    May 2011
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    What is your definition of being easily killed by wildlife?

    Because from all of my playthroughs of testing different paths from the beginning of the game, as long as you stay on the main road to primm and all the way to new vegas, the only wildlife you see are Geckos, Giant Ants, ocassional Bark Scorp, and a mole rat. Hardly terrifying, even at low levels.

    Now of course, if you stray from the roads, you will be stomped like a radroach.
    That's what I mean, I like to wonder around, and to do that at the beginning you need to stock up on supplies and keep on the lookout or you'll be rapped by cazadors or young deathclaws.
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  3. Post #123
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    March 2009
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    Couldn't they just launch dirty bombs though? Not necessarily high-explosive nuclear, but just spread radiation around? There could even be a quest to go through some ruins that a bomb impacted to disable it because it's irradiating a water source.
    Yes they could have, but nowhere is it stated, all we know is DC was hit the hardest, yet it looks barely touched by the war.
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  4. Post #124
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    November 2010
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    Shameless mod promoting here, but I think its worthy of a post.

    It redesigns A LOT of NPC faces to make them not look like strange mutated fish people.

    http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/downlo...e.php?id=39218

    "The world of Fallout is a dark and gritty world.
    It's not all about anime eyes, fancy hairs, perfect skin and supermodels.
    and I wanted to create the world Interplay and Tim Cain intended with the release of Fallout in 1997."

    I hope someone else hasn't already posted it.
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  5. Post #125
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    September 2010
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    The face on 'Yes Man' reminds me of the "face" character from Blues Clues. I haven't watch it since I was 6 so I don't know the name.
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  6. Post #126
    a dumb bear's Avatar
    June 2011
    2,126 Posts
    I kind of want another fallout set in an earlier period.
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  7. Post #127
    M.Ciaster's Avatar
    November 2010
    2,048 Posts
    I kind of want another fallout set in an earlier period.
    There's a WIP mod called What Remains which takes place in 2097.
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  8. Post #128
    Takuat's Avatar
    March 2010
    2,626 Posts
    Shameless mod promoting here, but I think its worthy of a post.

    It redesigns A LOT of NPC faces to make them not look like strange mutated fish people.

    http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/downlo...e.php?id=39218

    "The world of Fallout is a dark and gritty world.
    It's not all about anime eyes, fancy hairs, perfect skin and supermodels.
    and I wanted to create the world Interplay and Tim Cain intended with the release of Fallout in 1997."

    I hope someone else hasn't already posted it.
    FINALLY. When I was looking up mods this one would always get mentioned and linked to but the nexus page had been removed.
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  9. Post #129
    jackattack's Avatar
    October 2010
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    The face on 'Yes Man' reminds me of the "face" character from Blues Clues. I haven't watch it since I was 6 so I don't know the name.




    It's a conspiracy!
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  10. Post #130
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    kaine123's Avatar
    February 2010
    7,270 Posts


    I'm fabulous.
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  11. Post #131
    M.Ciaster's Avatar
    November 2010
    2,048 Posts


    I'm fabulous.

    Brother?
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  12. Post #132
    BadderSanta's Avatar
    April 2011
    809 Posts
    Sawed-off shotgun/riot shotgun with dragon's breath ammo reminds me alot of Desperado and Once Upon a Time in Mexico.
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  13. Post #133
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    October 2010
    5,286 Posts
    I need some help with deciding on a new character. Female, charisma 10, focus on speech, works with yes man, If I can't talk my way out of situations I kill everyone involved.

    Tag skills? Play style?
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  14. Post #134
    Darth Hater's Avatar
    October 2010
    604 Posts
    Kind of continuing from the conversation earlier, do we know if the Chinese were developing any FEV type of stuff like the US was? If the game was to go back to the east coast, there's a pretty big chance that it'd take place in New York. If not New York the the Commonwealth but let's talk about New York for a moment.

    I suppose the devs could rationalize leaving a partially intact city by saying the Chinese didn't want to use a thousand bombs to completely try and obliterate New York. So they hit most of it with some sort of biological weapon and then mopped up with a few nukes. It'd be a good excuse to get some factions that developed in complete isolation from the outside world, and some new creatures that are the result of Chinese FEV.

    Even though I'd personally prefer Chicago if we were to get a big city, nobody really knows what the creation engine's capabilities are with cities. Skyim's towns are relatively small and if whether that tells us anything or not, I'm not sure. But if we have to have bullshit rubble and subway systems all over the place to make a city possible, you might as well leave it alone until it can be done right. In that case, the apparent ability to hand craft a spectacularly beautiful world would be perfect for Hawaii.
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  15. Post #135
    DaysBefore's Avatar
    December 2009
    3,725 Posts
    Kind of continuing from the conversation earlier, do we know if the Chinese were developing any FEV type of stuff like the US was? If the game was to go back to the east coast, there's a pretty big chance that it'd take place in New York. If not New York the the Commonwealth but let's talk about New York for a moment.

    I suppose the devs could rationalize leaving a partially intact city by saying the Chinese didn't want to use a thousand bombs to completely try and obliterate New York. So they hit most of it with some sort of biological weapon and then mopped up with a few nukes. It'd be a good excuse to get some factions that developed in complete isolation from the outside world, and some new creatures that are the result of Chinese FEV.

    Even though I'd personally prefer Chicago if we were to get a big city, nobody really knows what the creation engine's capabilities are with cities. Skyim's towns are relatively small and if whether that tells us anything or not, I'm not sure. But if we have to have bullshit rubble and subway systems all over the place to make a city possible, you might as well leave it alone until it can be done right. In that case, the apparent ability to hand craft a spectacularly beautiful world would be perfect for Hawaii.
    The Chicoms did deploy huge amounts of biological weapons, but it's never mentioned that they had a similar program to FEV. I don't think they had to deal with the New Plague either so they never would have had the need to utilize FEV. Which reminds me about something I'll get to later. Anyway if, for whatever reason the Chinese did not destroy New York, the earthquakes would have. Or the nuclear reactor, which had already been close to destruction before the war due to the strain, the lack of upkeep would have set it off.
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  16. Post #136
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    February 2008
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    I'm sure if they really wanted the next Fallout to be in New York they could come with some excuse or another as to why it would be mostly intact.
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  17. Post #137
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    August 2011
    14,832 Posts
    I'm sure if they really wanted the next Fallout to be in New York they could come with some excuse or another as to why it would be mostly intact.
    Mister House realized he'd left his pet poodle in the WTC so he set up an extra defence barrier around New York

    Hey, I'd go with it if they told me that was what happened.
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  18. Post #138
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    February 2008
    3,690 Posts
    Mister House realized he'd left his pet poodle in the WTC so he set up an extra defence barrier around New York

    Hey, I'd go with it if they told me that was what happened.
    Excellent idea. Now all it needs is the Enclave fighting the Brotherhood, some moral polar opposites (with massive benefits for siding with "good"), and Super Mutants, and then we have got ourselves a game.
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  19. Post #139
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    August 2011
    14,832 Posts
    Excellent idea. Now all it needs is the Enclave fighting the Brotherhood, some moral polar opposites (with massive benefits for siding with "good"), and Super Mutants, and then we have got ourselves a game.
    And then throw in a single vaguely redeeming factor to split the fans to top it off.

    Gentlemen, we have the Bethesda formula.

    Edited:

    I hate to ask, but would someone mind rehosting this mod?

    The only other place I found it at somehow made my CTD when I tried to run NV with it, so I'd like to determine if the mod itself is causing it or just where I got it from.
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  20. Post #140
    Darth Hater's Avatar
    October 2010
    604 Posts
    I hate to ask, but would someone mind rehosting this mod?

    The only other place I found it at somehow made my CTD when I tried to run NV with it, so I'd like to determine if the mod itself is causing it or just where I got it from.
    Sure, here you go.
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  21. Post #141
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    Cone's Avatar
    August 2011
    14,832 Posts
    Aw damn. Still CTD's.

    Also it is a fucking bitch to get a lot of mods with this goddamn download size limit on the Nexus
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  22. Post #142
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    June 2010
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    Still, I'd like a fallout in Alaska.

    Imagine

    You start off the game groggy and waking up from a shoddy nap. A man screams "NEEXT!" and you walk up to the counter. He asks for your name, and then has his eye-bot take a picture of you. He says that the picture is iffy and if you could fix it. He then gives you a psyche and physical test. You are now a citizen of Anchorage, Alaska. You poke your head out of the smelly, dank tunnels, and are met with a freezing cold wasteland, seemingly halted in time. Skyscrapers that are crumbling are literally frozen with ice. You make baby steps out in to this new world. You traveled there by hand-cranked railroads that spanned from LA. You didn't expect this type of wilderness (or lack thereof). The forests are few and far between. Settlers are bundled to the extremes to face the harsh conditions. You soon begin to feel the ice nip at your fingertips. You need clothing, so your first quest is to head to the General Store. You do some side quests, such as fetching ingredients, defending against bandits, scavenging for various items, then you hear a broadcast.

    "Citizens of Anchorage! This is an important announcement! Local Storm Trackers have located a Class 5 Hurricane building itself up a few hundred miles off-shore. It is believed to hold over 400 tons of irradiated ice and snow, and when it makes landfall it's winds could reach up to 400 MPH. It's the big one folks, pray that god makes it quick."

    What shall you do? You have a little less than a week before the storm hits. Do you run, or do you find a way to change the weather? Do you kill for the pleasure, or kill for the common good? Only time will tell, in the frozen tomb that is Fallout: Alaska

    I thought that would be an interesting environment though. Heat doesn't always kill, it's easier to live in the desert than on the tundra. Having to battle the conditions alongside foes would add some fun realism.

    And there'd be weirdass Walrus-Polar Bear Hybrids.
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  23. Post #143
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    Dennab
    March 2009
    2,583 Posts
    Aw damn. Still CTD's.

    Also it is a fucking bitch to get a lot of mods with this goddamn download size limit on the Nexus
    Just make a damn account, it isn't hard at all.
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  24. Post #144
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    Cone's Avatar
    August 2011
    14,832 Posts
    Still, I'd like a fallout in Alaska.

    Imagine




    I thought that would be an interesting environment though. Heat doesn't always kill, it's easier to live in the desert than on the tundra. Having to battle the conditions alongside foes would add some fun realism.

    And there'd be weirdass Walrus-Polar Bear Hybrids.
    Well if DC is a desert, I'd imagine Alaska would be about as cold as England during March. No snow, just loads and loads of ice and wind chill.

    Edited:

    Just make a damn account, it isn't hard at all.
    I would, but I never receive the activation email.
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  25. Post #145

    August 2011
    836 Posts
    Still, I'd like a fallout in Alaska.

    Imagine




    I thought that would be an interesting environment though. Heat doesn't always kill, it's easier to live in the desert than on the tundra. Having to battle the conditions alongside foes would add some fun realism.

    And there'd be weirdass Walrus-Polar Bear Hybrids.
    I would play the fuck out of that, if you only have one in game week to do what you need to do. And maybe your decisions could determine if you survive the hurricane or not.
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  26. Post #146
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    More "Fallout: Alaska" stuff, skip if you don't care

    Sunny Day: You have 50-50% chance of unprotected survival. The lack of clouds lets heat escape, but the hot sun warms your skin. There is no chance for snow

    Cloudy Day: You have a 70-30% chance of unprotected survival. Clouds let heat stay in a blanket, but no extra heat gets in. There is a chance for snow.

    Snowy Day: You have a 20-80% chance of unprotected survival. The cold is absolutely deadly, and the snow may conceal attackers.

    Clear Night: You have a 40-60% chance of unprotected survival. There are no clouds blanketing the heat, and the sun has set. There is no chance for snow.

    Cloudy Night: You have a 50-50% chance of unprotected survival. Though most of the heat has trickled out, there is still enough to keep you warm. There is a chance of snow.

    Snowy Night: You have a 10-90% chance of unprotected survival. The snow will most likely blind you, and the cold will chill you to death.

    Blizzard: You have no chance of unprotected survival. You will die within minutes as your body shuts down.

    "The Big One": The collection of winds, radiation, snow and cold will kill you within seconds.
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  27. Post #147
    Darth Hater's Avatar
    October 2010
    604 Posts
    Still, I'd like a fallout in Alaska.
    Imagine...

    I thought that would be an interesting environment though. Heat doesn't always kill, it's easier to live in the desert than on the tundra. Having to battle the conditions alongside foes would add some fun realism. And there'd be weirdass Walrus-Polar Bear Hybrids.
    I like the idea, but it doesn't actually make sense. People don't have any rational reason to live in Alaska. It's hard enough to get by in the wasteland but in Alaska? Why would people even try to deal with that. Why not instead just start going south to the huge ass country(s) in the making. Places with food, money, work, and relative safety?
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  28. Post #148
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    August 2011
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    I like the idea, but it doesn't actually make sense. People don't have any rational reason to live in Alaska. It's hard enough to get by in the wasteland but in Alaska? Why would people even try to deal with that. Why not instead just start going south to the huge ass country(s) in the making. Places with food, money, work, and relative safety?
    Perhaps there's some sort of fuel source there.

    Actually if that was it then we could get in some heavy-handed Old World symbolism to boot
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  29. Post #149

    August 2011
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    More "Fallout: Alaska" stuff, skip if you don't care

    Sunny Day: You have 50-50% chance of unprotected survival. The lack of clouds lets heat escape, but the hot sun warms your skin. There is no chance for snow

    Cloudy Day: You have a 70-30% chance of unprotected survival. Clouds let heat stay in a blanket, but no extra heat gets in. There is a chance for snow.

    Snowy Day: You have a 20-80% chance of unprotected survival. The cold is absolutely deadly, and the snow may conceal attackers.

    Clear Night: You have a 40-60% chance of unprotected survival. There are no clouds blanketing the heat, and the sun has set. There is no chance for snow.

    Cloudy Night: You have a 50-50% chance of unprotected survival. Though most of the heat has trickled out, there is still enough to keep you warm. There is a chance of snow.

    Snowy Night: You have a 10-90% chance of unprotected survival. The snow will most likely blind you, and the cold will chill you to death.

    Blizzard: You have no chance of unprotected survival. You will die within minutes as your body shuts down.

    "The Big One": The collection of winds, radiation, snow and cold will kill you within seconds.
    There should be a heat meter, and how thick the clothing you're wearing is should affect how fast it drops.

    Edited:

    Perhaps there's some sort of fuel source there.

    Actually if that was it then we could get in some heavy-handed Old World symbolism to boot
    NCR fuel mining town.
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  30. Post #150
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    February 2010
    1,138 Posts
    Who would win?

    A radroach vs Mr. House
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  31. Post #151
    Chronische's Avatar
    February 2009
    1,070 Posts
    There should be a heat meter, and how thick the clothing you're wearing is should affect how fast it drops.

    Edited:



    NCR fuel mining town.
    Not NCR, why would they be in Alaska? They have enough shit to deal with on the mainland, plus they have what's left of the Poseidon oil rig.

    Perhaps Chinese remnants and any remaining US army forces fighting for control of any oil in the region, not for their country anymore but for simple survival. Oil powers heating and lighting systems for hydroponics making it essential for survival.
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  32. Post #152
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    June 2010
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    Who would win?

    A radroach vs Mr. House
    That's a tough one

    Edited:

    Perhaps there's some sort of fuel source there.
    There's Thermanium there, it's a resource that gives unlimited amounts of energy, triggered only by contact with massive doses of Radiation. However, Thermanium is only found in the Alaskan wasteland. It's another Gold Rush, but this time, the stakes are higher.

    One ounce Thermanium has the power equal to 20 nuclear power plants, and is 10x more stable.

    However, Thermanium is rarer than Uranium, making it extremely hard to find.
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  33. Post #153
    a dumb bear's Avatar
    June 2011
    2,126 Posts
    If the next Fallout is set in the commonwealth, I hope you're an android. Not one similar to say, Harkness. He was able to think for himself over time.

    But instead you were specially engineered to be self aware from the start. You were made before the bombs fell, and filled with artificial memories of a family, friends and a home. At MIT, stored in a concrete, lead lined vault, and being kept in a cryogenic chamber to keep your systems dormant and preserve you for however long necessary, you were never activated. You, along with many other events, were ceased by the great war. The institute only got part of it right from data they found inside MIT. Then the back up reactor keeping you dormant was destroyed by some raiders, your boot sequence was started to keep you alive; at the time, you were a breakthrough, too important, too useful to risk loosing. The commonwealth police manage to kill the raiders, and save you. Safe at last, so you think. But as they find the vault, and the synth retention bureau moves in and starts to hunt you down, you have no idea how much danger you're really in. They'll make you slave away. Whether it be capturing escaping androids, or killing enemies of the institute. However, they're not the only ones who want to get their hands on you. The Brotherhood are in town, and feel that you would be a very useful technological asset. They have no intent on harming you in the process, but they're a shady character. They'll kill you if they can't own you. A mini group of Enclave scientists, stuck in the past, even after Raven Rock and Control Station Enclave were destroyed, want you for the good of "future America". You can join and help them, or bring them to their knees and destroy them. Or maybe you'll start your own people, and create your own government of democracy, or dictatorship.

    A half assed story I made in a few minutes, sure, but it sounds like it would be fun to me.
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  34. Post #154
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    February 2008
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    Why are we even thinking about half assed stories when we all already know what the next game really absolutely should be?


    Fallout: Aloha Smoothskin!
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  35. Post #155
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    October 2010
    604 Posts
    Perhaps there's some sort of fuel source there.

    Actually if that was it then we could get in some heavy-handed Old World symbolism to boot
    Actually that gives me an idea. Perhaps when the bombs dropped they knocked loose or opened up some untapped pool of oil deep underground. Now the remnants, who have formed into a few different groups, (New Vegas' faction system, Yay!) fight tooth and nail over every drop of oil. Perhaps even using it as currency, which would be interesting.

    You could have the entire new society built up around this oil. All the towns and cities could be hyper-industrialized. Sort of like a combination of something out of steampunk, and the cobbled together towns in fallout 3 such as Megaton and Rivet City. There's opportunity for an underground mining/refining city or even one built into the icy cliff edge (why not?).

    Then they could add your super storm that was mentioned earlier. The storm would be so great, so strong, that they would have to leave for the mainland to survive it. But nobody wants to let the other faction have the oil. In the end, you could have the storm destroying much of the factions because they were too blinded by their greed to prepare or even leave (good Ron Perlman line). Of course, all this doesn't sound very fallout-ish... Hmm. Needs more 50's.

    Edited:
    Why are we even thinking about half assed stories when we all already know what the next game really absolutely should be?


    Fallout: Aloha Smoothskin!
    Oh, what was I thinking! Let's just go with this.
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  36. Post #156
    cdr248's Avatar
    August 2009
    6,171 Posts
    Aw damn. Still CTD's.

    Also it is a fucking bitch to get a lot of mods with this goddamn download size limit on the Nexus
    You probably have to change your load order. Get BOSS.

    Edited:

    I like the idea, but it doesn't actually make sense. People don't have any rational reason to live in Alaska. It's hard enough to get by in the wasteland but in Alaska? Why would people even try to deal with that. Why not instead just start going south to the huge ass country(s) in the making. Places with food, money, work, and relative safety?
    Maybe you want to try and get out of Alaska but some faction won't let anyone in or out.
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  37. Post #157
    I asked Obama about Facepunch and all I got was molested by the Secret Service
    loco's Avatar
    December 2009
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    Just wanted to say you guys are the best Fallout Bros even if we disagree here and there it's always nice chatting with you guys.
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  38. Post #158
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    October 2010
    5,286 Posts
    I like all the alaska ideas going around. Maybe some locations from operation: anchorage would still be partially intact. It felt amazing to walk out into that facility and see legions of power-armored soldiers charging in.
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  39. Post #159
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    February 2011
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    Ultra Edition is here, gentlemen.
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  40. Post #160
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    March 2010
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    Ultra Edition is here, gentlemen.
    Only 40 bucks on Amazon.
    Just think of the savings from key sites. :O
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