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Not really:
Without bumper case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7-OBoDFeDY
With bumper case (fun starts at 2:39): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZba_sgnGQw&feature=fvw
There's a difference there.
I haven't seen a Samsung Focus gettign dropped
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it's durable, it doesn't break under normal usage (which dropping isn't.). it's fragile, though. and i never said it wasn't, but you don't have to put anything on it.
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What do you mean by normal usage? I've never had a phone break on me just when using it normally. By your logic, a phone made of the most fragile glass can be durable. Normally people drop their phones, so I'll say that that counts as normal usage.
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This is how all modern phones should be tested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcfvRfJeLPQ
Fairly sure Apple never did this.
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Fairly sure Apple never did it because obviously a phone out of glass is going to shatter when you drop it. They chose aesthetic over the ability for it to not break when you drop it. You have the option to take away the aesthetic and cover your phone in a case (OtterBox, for example) or risk it.
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"The phone is of glass, so I have my own parameter for what's durable and what's not derp."
Thats pretty much what you said (Totally overdone of course, but well, you get it), and if you can't drop it a couple of times without it breaking, I don't think that it is durable "under normal usage".
As you can see in the video, Nokia succeeded at making a, of course in my opinion, very aesthetically pleasing phone, but still durable and light. You can have your own opinion about that though, as I have with the iphone.
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Actually there was a big deal made out of the fact that a lot of the iPhone 4 cases present a threat to the rear glass panel. They say that if a sharp piece of dust gets between the case and the phone (which is inevitable if you use your pocket at all,) there would be a serious risk of the glass randomly shattering. I don't know about you, but I'd consider that normal usage.
Sure dropping it isn't normal usage, but everybody is bound to drop their phones in their life. I'm saying I'd rather have the phone that doesn't shatter into a million pieces when I do make that mistake.
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Anyway, I had purchased metal backs for my iPhone 4 before it even arrived so at least half my worries are gone that way.
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The cases that could break the back of the iPhone 4, were the ones where you slide them of. They were taken back by Apple, and they aren't, as far as I know, in production anymore.
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Thank Christ. I can't wait until this platform gets more popular. Then we'll start seeing an influx of good homebrew software.
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Update on the update situation There will be two updates before mid year.
And some sales figures 2 million licences sold in 3 months.
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Shipped=/=Sold? Seems to be doing pretty well. Make a WP7 with great battery life and I'll most likely buy it, my HD2 works fine with WP7 but the battery life is terrible.
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Samsung Focus, Samsung Omnia. Maybe more so the Focus, though.
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One "day" of constant use? My HD2 is great but the battery let me down in December when I was in Birmingham, good thing airports have power outlets in random places.
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Maybe 3 with the Focus with constant use. Welcome to smartphones, I suppose.
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If so it could be my next phone if not something new by June. I find it ridiculous manufacturers didn't prioritise very good battery life over 1080p recording/output and dual cores, but that's technology I suppose.
What do you use?
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well battery tech hasn't exactly been advancing very much
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I use it pretty frequently. Internet to do banking, reader app for Google Reader, People app for Facebook updates, Facebook apps for extra controls, and other time-passing apps like Facts lists and shit. Battery life with smartphones are pretty crappy no matter where you go. But the Focus/Omnia are supposed to have the best WP7 battery life as well as it being the thinnest (Focus.)
So, like I said before, the Focus/Omnia are pretty much the master race when it comes to WP7 handsets. If I were you, I'd just stick with the HD2 for a bit until they release new handsets or until they release software updates. I've reached a point where I can really no longer recommend WP7 because Microsoft is taking so fucking long with updates. It's a shame.
Also, just a sidenote: dual core processors actually increase battery life.
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That's assuring to read, thanks for the advice. I looked at o2 and all they have WP7 is the HD7, which my phone is near identical to in terms of hardware so I wouldn't even consider it an upgrade. My contract runs out in June of this year so I would upgrade to something WP7, but the Omnia 7 is on 3 and Orange only which have terrible service in my area. Had I the choice I'd want a Dell Venue Pro because they look brilliant, but not sure when or even if those are getting released in the UK. Battery life could be crap.
Actually I do recall reading that now that I think about it, would like more development on the batteries though.
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I would like a Nokia WP7 very much, thank you, though I'm waiting for MeeGo. And the design on the supposed Nokia phone, doesn't look like anything Nokia've made the last two years. And certainly not with a smartphone.
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Some more interesting news:
A new update to the Zune player has added some secret functionality thought to be the update to enable updating of phones. People (myself included) seem to have noticed the Zune player launches much quicker and browsing within the software itself is also much faster.
And there are also more rumours about Nokia joining the WP7 club, especially after this leaked internal memo from the new CEO of Nokia to all employees which can be summed up as: We have been left behind, iOS and Android have trampled all over us blah blah.
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Hmm.. I still doubt it very much, as Nokia is a global company, and WP7's Xbox, Market and Zune is U. S. exclusively. Of course, this could just be a key to the U.S., but I don't see this making sense in a global context. Nokia sold a good deal of Symbian^3 handsets already, so I would think that they're pleased. And MeeGo goddammit.
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Er, Xbox integration, Marketplace, and Zune (for videos) is available in many countries. The only thing that is U.S. exclusive, I believe, is the music store.
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Nope music store is available in UK and most of Europe if I remember correctly.
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Ah, got it. It's not in Canada yet unfortunately. I'd like to be able to purchase tracks on my phone on the go. Oh well.
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Well fuck. The update is now claimed to come on the 8th of March.
Fuck you too, Microsoft. If they wanted to seriously push WP7, they'll have to do a lot better than that. Four months for fucking copy and paste? Goddamn it.
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Perfectly happy with my phone here, and I'd remain happy even if they never updated it again. I don't judge the platform on the number of updates received. It's pretty solid at the moment anyway.
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You have to remember Microsoft never officially announced a date apart from "Q1 2011" and 4 months isn't too bad compared to how long Apple took to implement copy/paste in iOS.
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See, here's the thing. To be honest, I couldn't care less about copy and paste as of right now. All I want Microsoft to do is release updates to fix bugs, make the phone faster, etc. Just even to fix bugs would make me happier. Not only that, but Microsoft's display of being able to release updates frequently on a timely basis would heavily suggest that they are seriously committed to the platform. Them spending four months to implement nothing but copy and paste and then some speed improvements? It's starting to look like they're not taking this seriously at all. I'm just saying, they'll have to double time it because doubts against WP7 rise up by the day. I am too starting to almost regret ditching my iPhone 4. But fuck it, I'll be patient.
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Don't even try to compare this to Apple's updates. They had an update out 2 days after the phone came out.
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Ahh... Well, then it's just Denmark Microsoft's fucking with.
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And when was it officially announced what this update will contain other than copy + paste? for all we know it will have bug fixes, who said it wont have.
Oh and this "update two days after the phone came out" was actually a month after and contained a single security fix, It was four months until a update which added features.
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Called it! ... along with the rest of the world.
Nokias awesome hardware and cameras + WP7 + OVI maps = win.
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Yeah, I'm both surprised, and a bit disappointet. I have nothing against WP7, but it slows down, and limits MeeGo development. Who wants to develop for a platform that is that small?
I read something about Ovi store getting merged with WP Market, so maybe more apps for WP7? That's not a bad thing.
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Now I want an N8 with WP7 on it. Or something of the sort. Nokia has always made perfect hardware!
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I would like a mix of WP7's UI, and Symbians multitasking and so on.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/e...cept-revealed/
Nokia WP7 concept.
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Check it out, Nokia's first WP7 concept:
Doesn't look very 'Nokiaish'
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Shit didn't see your edit.
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They look kinda like the C7:
I find them sexy nonetheless. It's a concept, so it'll probably look a little different. The thing I'm a bit worried about, is battery life. The Nokia N8 had great battery life (though no reviewer really seemed to notice that), due to it's CPU only running at ~600MHz, and Symbian being quite efficient. I don't know how a WP7 Nokia will be..
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I don't know if this means anything at all but the picture of the home screen on the blue device has the tiles in a different order (MS doesn't allow OEM's to move the top 4 tiles) perhaps that's what the Nokia CEO meant by "allowed to customise the OS".
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They're are allowed to customize it heavily, but they probably won't, as they want it to be compatible with every application that may be written.
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That's the thing I find it very odd MS would let them do that after they so staunchly said no body is allowed to do anything to the OS, I thought the CEO might have been misquoted/misunderstood.
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So Symbian is going to stop?
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