[Binsky]

Smeetin posted:

Apparently most people on DeviantArt did. Never understood why it was so popular, lots of stuff is much better.

i think what really drew me to it was the emotion portrayed on the girl on the right's face

[Caragolpe]

I love Yoshitaka Amano.



http://www.elevenland.com/amano/images/tlaRampoI.jpg
[url]http://www.elevenland.com/amano/images/tlaManWithGun.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.elevenland.com/amano/images/tlaSorcererAndWoman.jpg[/url]
http://www.elevenland.com/amano/images/tlaTaleOfGenjiIII.jpg[/url]
[url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Final_Fantasy_X_Amano.jpg[/url]
And yes, he makes the logos and art for Final fantasy.

[Gregah]

jewdozer posted:

I got a few obvious favourites like Bosch but one arty I've never been able to find the maker for is this NSFW image. I'll warn you its probably the most amazing and revolting image you'll see in a lifetime. This drawing inspired me to start drawing. The lighting, colours and anatomy are perfect, theres nothing about this drawing I'd change.

NSFW

If anyone can help me find out who did that I'd be greatful.

So this is the picture you were going to send that I refused to watch, I thought it was much worse. That picture really isn't that revolting, I feel robbed and raped now that I thought it was worse.

[jenny7332]

jewdozer posted:

I got a few obvious favourites like Bosch but one arty I've never been able to find the maker for is this NSFW image. I'll warn you its probably the most amazing and revolting image you'll see in a lifetime. This drawing inspired me to start drawing. The lighting, colours and anatomy are perfect, theres nothing about this drawing I'd change.

NSFW

If anyone can help me find out who did that I'd be greatful.

Thought I recognised the art style, it's by Janaschi:
http://janaschi.deviantart.com/art/R...Alex-145195642

Her stuff is lovely.

Edited:

One of my favourites is by her and algenpfeger, also NSFW:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs40/f/2009/037/a/d/Moaar_collab_with_Algenpfleger_by_janaschi.jpg

[jewdozer]

Thanks to dgg and co for sourcing that image, I've been wanting an id on that for a good year but never saw the sig on the smaller version I have.
Looking through his other work is amazing. Many thanks again for the assist.

In answer to Dai on the photoshop, I've tried messing around with PS and have brushed up some of my better drawings to see what they turn out like. The result left me feeling empty as pixel art is literally what the artist has created with pixels rather than shortcuts using custom brushes and techniques. Nothing wrong with using PS but the art always has to be fulfilling for the artist. Training? I just draw what I see and get better with time, no training.

[Asgard]

I always feel amazing after I create something beautiful in Photoshop. Gives me a feeling of pride, not emptyness. But hey, everybody is different. We know that.

[theLazyLion]

Acrylic paintings..





Yes, you heard right.

[dgg]

theLazyLion posted:

Acrylic paintings..





Yes, you heard right.

Like, the whole thing? ... What?!

But, looking at the unfocused parts I can see it. Crazy shit.

[Asgard]

Those have to be pictures or 3D renders.

[jenny7332]

Holyshit my colours never stay that bright when I use acrylics.

I've seen that first one on DA before- blew my mind then and it still does.

[pedroion]

My god.
I really don't get to see the acrylic painting-ness in the foreground. :aaa:

[3v3ryb0dy]

Mr. Scorpio posted:

Fuck this photography bullshit, let's get some fucking Zdzislaw fucking Beksinski in this bitch.

Yep our art taste is quite much the same.

contribooting, with yhe most emotionally moving piece I've seen yet, and it's by beksinski.

[Mr. Scorpio]

Caragolpe posted:

I love Yoshitaka Amano.



http://www.elevenland.com/amano/images/tlaRampoI.jpg
[url]http://www.elevenland.com/amano/images/tlaManWithGun.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.elevenland.com/amano/images/tlaSorcererAndWoman.jpg[/url]
http://www.elevenland.com/amano/images/tlaTaleOfGenjiIII.jpg[/url]
[url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Final_Fantasy_X_Amano.jpg[/url]
And yes, he makes the logos and art for Final fantasy.

If the games actually looked like that in any way maybe I wouldn't hate them so much.

Also, Vampire Hunter D. Nice.

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3v3ryb0dy posted:

Yep our art taste is quite much the same.

contribooting, with yhe most emotionally moving piece I've seen yet, and it's by beksinski.

Now this is why all of you motherfuckers need to learn some fucking perspective. This is an example of a very, very simple rule used to incredibly great effect.

[dgg]

Mr. Scorpio posted:

Now this is why all of you motherfuckers need to learn some fucking perspective. This is an example of a very, very simple rule used to incredibly great effect.

Yeah. Show the people a massive fucking collection of POLES! POLES MOTHERFUCKERS! LOTS OF THEM!

Each to his own, I find that incredibly uninteresting and boring .

[kaskade700]

I've always had a soft spot for Windows sample images

[daijitsu]

dgg posted:

Yeah. Show the people a massive fucking collection of POLES! POLES MOTHERFUCKERS! LOTS OF THEM!

Each to his own, I find that incredibly uninteresting and boring .

as a subject, yes it is uninteresting, but the technical aspect of the painting is awe inspiring.

[kaskade700]

daijitsu posted:

as a subject, yes it is uninteresting, but the technical aspect of the painting is awe inspiring.

I know people who are not even teenagers yet who can rival that painting in 'awe inspiring technical aspects'

[dgg]

It would have been a lot cooler if the poles were human beings.

[3v3ryb0dy]

:geno:
You still taking that painting as a bunch of poles and nothing deeper?

And kaskade, I doubt some preteens can replicate that, it is technically complex. You gotta see it up close.

[Pickwickian-]

I'll post a few pictures from a very close family friend of mine.

His name is Bogdan Frymorgen. He's a wonderful photographer and person.

[dgg]

3v3ryb0dy posted:

:geno:
You still taking that painting as a bunch of poles and nothing deeper?

Yes I do.

[Heroms]

3v3ryb0dy posted:

:geno:

What more is there to it. The only other thing I can gather from it is "The trees are gone, humanity is killing nature" which we've been hearing for such a long time now as a concept it's stale. Not to mention that the way he portrayed it isn't very interesting. Color is nice, but it's a bunch of poles.

Edited:

My uncle is a painter and I actually have two of his paintings hanging on my wall but I can't find any of it online so oh well.

[ChestyMcGee]

It's not poles is it? I thought it was destroyed trees from a First World War battle or something.

[Rusty100]

dgg posted:

I don't really look at many pieces of art outside of FP and the people I follow on DA.

i think this is a pretty big mistake on your part. extend your horizons.

[Roswell34]

ChestyMcGee posted:

It's not poles is it? I thought it was destroyed trees from a First World War battle or something.

made me think of tunguska

[cdejong]

Beskinski never gave meaning to his works, they're mostly from his dreams and wanderings of the mind. The meaning comes from your own personal experience. He prefers it this way.

[dgg]

Rusty100 posted:

i think this is a pretty big mistake on your part. extend your horizons.

Thing is, I'm not really that interested in looking at art pieces in the first place, so yeah.

[Mr. Scorpio]

this is why I want to stab you in the face with a soldering iron, dgg.

Edited:

dgg posted:

It would have been a lot cooler if the poles were human beings.

oh yes, lets make it cool


This is why I fucking hate this generation of artists. It's all about spectacle and shiny baubles and useless confusing details. Don't know shit about composition or color, and don't care either.

For example



Edited:

3v3ryb0dy posted:

:geno:
You still taking that painting as a bunch of poles and nothing deeper?

And kaskade, I doubt some preteens can replicate that, it is technically complex. You gotta see it up close.

As if he would know how hard it is to make something like that outside of fucking photoshop.



I'm not asking for anyone to like Beksinski and I'm not asking anyone to find some "deeper meaning" in any of it, I'm demanding respect for examples of great use of color and composition.

Edited:

dgg posted:

Thing is, I'm not really that interested in looking at art pieces in the first place, so yeah.

And on that note, if that is so, why the fuck are you even in this thread?

[Stathis]

Mr. Scorpio posted:

this is why I want to stab you in the face with a soldering iron, dgg.

Edited:



oh yes, lets make it cool


This is why I fucking hate this generation of artists. It's all about spectacle and shiny baubles and useless confusing details. Don't know shit about composition or color, and don't care either.

For example



Edited:



As if he would know how hard it is to make something like that outside of fucking photoshop.



I'm not asking for anyone to like Beksinski and I'm not asking anyone to find some "deeper meaning" in any of it, I'm demanding respect for examples of great use of color and composition.

Edited:



And on that note, if that is so, why the fuck are you even in this thread?

I have to agree with you on that one, every dude here and on DA is all about knowledge and "practice", I have never seen any intentionally(!) good work on both FP and DA. You never get to see something finished, it's all about practice and show off. If only those "artists" could really see the reason why a great piece is great and would study at least the basics of composition and such.

[Mr. Scorpio]

Stathis posted:

I have to agree with you on that one, every dude here and on DA is all about knowledge and "practice", I have never seen any intentionally(!) good work on both FP and DA. You never get to see something finished, it's all about practice and show off. If only those "artists" could really see the reason why a great piece is great and would study at least the basics of composition and such.

I'm sorry, but I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're saying.

[Stathis]

What I said was pretty irrelevant but it does link to what you said, I just meant that most dudes focus on improving their skill rather than learn how to make things look good and usually the don't respect the guys who do. And making things look good does not always comes with skill, I mean look at all these modern artists. Some of them, yeah they are taking advantage on the current situation but others are really good at what they do.

[johan_sm]

Stathis posted:

I have to agree with you on that one, every dude here and on DA is all about knowledge and "practice", I have never seen any intentionally(!) good work on both FP and DA. You never get to see something finished, it's all about practice and show off. If only those "artists" could really see the reason why a great piece is great and would study at least the basics of composition and such.

I love how first you want art to be "art" but then you tell them to study composition which is against what you are. Either that or you're very confusing.

Art is different to each. Some think a tree in a field is art, some think polygons stacked in the right order is art, some think not messy programming code is art.

For example that piece I posted that got quoted, I consider it art because it's amazing in texture and model, it brings out my "technical" art emotions. I don't care if it's sad or happy, I consider skilled talent as art.

Almost no pieces in this thread bring out the "artistic" art emotions to me.

You cannot define what is art and what isn't, because in the end everything is done in artistic manner.

Edited:

Pickwickian- posted:

I'll post a few pictures from a very close family friend of mine.

His name is Bogdan Frymorgen. He's a wonderful photographer and person.

Does he do something that is not B&W?

Edited:

Mr. Scorpio posted:

As if he would know how hard it is to make something like that outside of fucking photoshop.

How does it become easier inside photoshop?

[Stathis]

johan_sm posted:

I love how first you want art to be "art" but then you tell them to study composition which is against what you are. Either that or you're very confusing.

Art is different to each. Some think a tree in a field is art, some think polygons stacked in the right order is art, some think not messy programming code is art.

For example that piece I posted that got quoted, I consider it art because it's amazing in texture and model, it brings out my "technical" art emotions. I don't care if it's sad or happy, I consider skilled talent as art.

Almost no pieces in this thread bring out the "artistic" art emotions to me.

You cannot define what is art and what isn't, because in the end everything is done in artistic manner.

For me art is how pleasant a picture appears to be. How all the colors the angle everything intentionally contribute to how well each element is standing out - how harmonical it is. I mean look at that:

[Mr. Scorpio]

johan_sm posted:

How does it become easier inside photoshop?

. . .

I do believe this is a situation where the only adequate answer is, in what way isn't it easier?

[johan_sm]

Stathis posted:

For me art is how pleasant a picture appears to be. How all the colors the angle everything intentionally contribute to how well each element is standing out - how harmonical it is. I mean look at that:

Well that's cool. It is for you, I personally feel nothing and go all "meh". Different people, different art. Nothing wrong with that, just don't start dissing people with different tastes.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

. . .

I do believe this is a situation where the only adequate answer is, in what way isn't it easier?

So how is it easier? Photoshop doesn't draw perspective for you.

[dgg]

Mr. Scorpio posted:

this is why I want to stab you in the face with a soldering iron, dgg.

That's cool. I'd like to see the result.

You know what you should do? Draw just that.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

oh yes, lets make it cool

I think you take my wording of "cool" there as "Oh my God! This sum real cool shit you made thar".

What I meant is that it would be a lot more interesting and emotional if it actually was a bunch of humans standing there, almost silhouettes of just a bunch of humans, standing there, out in the cold.

Now that would make it a lot more interesting and emotional. Not just a bunch of poles out in a flat landscape fading out in the horizon. Sure it's a technically good piece with the perspective, but fuck if that matters if it's a boring piece, TO ME.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

This is why I fucking hate this generation of artists. It's all about spectacle and shiny baubles and useless confusing details. Don't know shit about composition or color, and don't care either.

For example

Hahahaha. It's always been like that, "always" being ever since the invention of handheld cameras for people to get.

I also don't see how you can't see a well 3D modeled human being in a complex armor suit with good textures as art. Yet a square canvas with well executed perspective and colour combinations is a fucking masterpiece.

Are we talking about being extremely biased against what you think of as art and not allowing anyone to think differently? Hmm, yes... You define art as if there is only one way art can be.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

As if he would know how hard it is to make something like that outside of fucking photoshop.

Yeah... Because I've neeeeever done aaaany traditional work at aaaal... Noooooooooo.

Oh wait, yes I have.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

I'm not asking for anyone to like Beksinski and I'm not asking anyone to find some "deeper meaning" in any of it, I'm demanding respect for examples of great use of color and composition.

Yet you think good modelling and hard work put into making textures is fucking stupid and just about being "cool and shiny".

You make me laugh.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

And on that note, if that is so, why the fuck are you even in this thread?

Hmm, bad phrasing I guess. Wait, no, it just lacks more detail.

I'm not really that interested in looking at art pieces that is outside of FP and the people I follow on DA.

The reason I like to look at art pieces in FP is because it's either by great artists or people that strive to be so, seeing peoples amateurish work is a lot better than looking at old professionals do shit, people you have no relation to whatsoever, how boring. Just wading through excellent pieces of art for no reason.

On FP I know a bunch of people and it's more relaxed, I can critique and possibly help the person get even better, or I can just watch as people give that person help and see that person improve. It's generally just more fun and interesting to watch art this way, rather than just flick through lots of done pieces of art by complete and utter strangers I will have no communication with.

That good enough for you?

[Mr. Scorpio]

Christ, I never even mentioned what "art" is. The fuck are you even talking about?

I said that a simple yet effective use of composition and color is worth orders more than something that's pointlessly complex and detailed.

Yeah... Because I've neeeeever done aaaany traditional work at aaaal... Noooooooooo.

Oh wait, yes I have.

I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Kaskade. All has two Ls in it by the way.

The reason I like to look at art pieces in FP is because it's either by great artists or people that strive to be so, seeing peoples amateurish work is a lot better than looking at old professionals do shit, people you have no relation to whatsoever, how boring. Just wading through excellent pieces of art for no reason.

On FP I know a bunch of people and it's more relaxed, I can critique and possibly help the person get even better, or I can just watch as people give that person help and see that person improve. It's generally just more fun and interesting to watch art this way, rather than just flick through lots of done pieces of art by complete and utter strangers I will have no communication with.

This is the Art Appreciation Thread. How does liking to watch people get better relate to you posting in a thread devoted to great artwork about how you have no interest in great artwork?

[dgg]

Mr. Scorpio posted:

Christ, I never even mentioned what "art" is. The fuck are you even talking about?

I'm talking about how you say that todays artist are all about "cool" and how that well made 3D model is an example of that, something you deem not good art, because it's just about "being fancy and cool".

Also how you really push hard on the art guidelines being THE way to make art.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

I said that a simple yet effective use of composition and color is worth orders more than something that's pointlessly complex and detailed.

Afterwards. What you've mainly been going on about is how great of a art piece it was because it had such good use of perspective and that you need to pay RESPECT to it. I mean, what? Respect because he knows how to use perspective?

But I don't disagree with what you're actually trying to say though.

Grunge texture. Overlay. I say no more.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Kaskade. All has two Ls in it by the way.

Dammit.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

This is the Art Appreciation Thread. How does liking to watch people get better relate to you posting in a thread devoted to great artwork about how you have no interest in great artwork?

I'm actually posting here because you posted about the piece 3v3rybody posted, then I just said something back and it slowly developed from there. It has nothing to do with anything that the thread stands for, because this is off-topic.

And it's not like I don't have ANY interest in watching artworks at all, but I don't have such an interest in watching them that I would seek after them on other websites. But this is a thread on a forum I visit several times a day, why not just take a peek at some artwork someone posted? It could possibly be very nice.


In order to stop being off-topic and clogging this thread up I'll just leave it at this, I love doing these discussions way too much.

[Rusty100]

dgg posted:

Thing is, I'm not really that interested in looking at art pieces in the first place, so yeah.

then you're a terrible excuse for one
i'm sorry but that's what it makes you

[dgg]

Rusty100 posted:

then you're a terrible excuse for one
i'm sorry but that's what it makes you

Terrible excuse for an artist? Well yeah, I won't disagree with that really. I've never called myself an artist though and never believed I am one either. The main reason I got interested in a graphical design job in the first place was to aid with getting rid of bad technical jobs, like white outlines on cutouts and comic sansed banners and the like. Simple as that.