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**thisispain** · 4th January 2011

i don't know dude

i own an MPC and it's pretty much the greatest and most fun thing i've ever used, the way you can cut up beats and the sound is just incredible

but then again i enjoy a sound that's really grimy and sampled from vinyl so that's my pick

DrPompo · 5th January 2011

Hopsin - sag my pants

fucking great
has a kind of eminem feel

**Funcoot** · 5th January 2011

From what I've researched, the Maschine can do everything an MPC can do.

If you have the time, watch this video. He grabs most of his samples from vinyl too.

This guy has owned tons of MPCs and he has replaced them with the maschine.

**G71tc4** · 5th January 2011

So, I just started listening to rap. I've barely gotten into it, I like a little bit of every music type, so I wanna know where to start. I listened to a bit of Sean Price, and I'm likin it. I'm likin NWA too.

**TH89** · 5th January 2011

G71tc4 posted:

So, I just started listening to rap. I've barely gotten into it, I like a little bit of every music type, so I wanna know where to start. I listened to a bit of Sean Price, and I'm likin it. I'm likin NWA too.

Here, I made you a starter guide:
http://www.facepunch.com/threads/104...History-of-Rap

**thisispain** · 5th January 2011

Funcoot posted:

From what I've researched, the Maschine can do everything an MPC can do.

oh yeah it probably can do way more

but it's about work flow and the UI you know
what you make with the Maschine is way different from what you make on an MPC, and that's true for both the sound quality and the song itself

**Lachz0r** · 5th January 2011

TH89 posted:

I know you're so persecuted

haha okay you got me i've never faced persecution in my whole life!!!!!!! and i don't know what real rap is PLEASE TELL ME!!!!! I ONLY LISTEN TO POPULAR (THEREFORE INFERIOR RIGHT???) MUSIC. stop persecuting me now please

Edited:

you could learn something from this

**Funcoot** · 5th January 2011

thisispain posted:

oh yeah it probably can do way more

but it's about work flow and the UI you know
what you make with the Maschine is way different from what you make on an MPC, and that's true for both the sound quality and the song itself

I understand. People either like one or the other, but if you have the chance to use one in person sometime, I'd still try it out. Juss' sayin.

**TH89** · 5th January 2011

Lachz0r posted:

you could learn something from this

Yeah I've had that album for years :smug:

**MachiniOs** · 5th January 2011

strayebyrd posted:

Shockingly I found this album in my local HMV, whose Hip hop/R&B section is usually devoted entirely to Grime.

The album had very little advertising in the UK but it did have a TV spot.

**TH89** · 5th January 2011

That's a sick album cover

Deweze · 5th January 2011

Talib Kweli & Makeba Mooncycle(A Real Female emcee!) "Lunchroom Classics"

**Funcoot** · 5th January 2011

Alright, I have a dilemma.

The store I tried ordering my MPD18 through simply can't get ahold of Akai. They've been calling and calling and they can't order it, they're going to keep on trying, but it wont be anytime soon that they'll be able to order the pad by rate of which things are going. I am going to try and order it online, but now I have more options.

Korg KontrolPad $169
I hear good things with this pad, but I rarely see hip hop artists producing with it. I just see a lot of Akai users. Also, I could most likely still order this through the store.

Akai MPD26 $161
A few more features than the Akai MPD18, will last me longer. Would have to order this online.

Akai MPD18 $100
Has quite a few less features than the other 2. Would have to order this online.

If I spend more money on a pad, I'll have less to spend on a keyboard.. but I'm probably going to stick with the oxygen 25 anyways and I'm going to be working again soon, so I might just spend the extra money.

Any thoughts? I will be using this for mostly hip hop and rap production.

**TH89** · 5th January 2011

I'd go for the MPD26.

**Funcoot** · 6th January 2011

That's what I'm leaning towards.

**Soulbrother** · 6th January 2011

Pads are somewhat helpful, but nowhere near as good as an MPC.

**Funcoot** · 6th January 2011

Soulbrother posted:

Pads are somewhat helpful, but nowhere near as good as an MPC.

And nowhere near as expensive.

**thisispain** · 6th January 2011

Soulbrother posted:

Pads are somewhat helpful, but nowhere near as good as an MPC.

lol that's because the pad isn't what made the MPC worthwhile protip: Kanye West's new album has a lot of beats made from the MPC

**TH89** · 6th January 2011

I'm not even sure what we're talking about

afaik the only difference between the MPC and the MIDI pads is that you have to load samples on the MPC on floppy disks which is a pain in the ass

**Funcoot** · 6th January 2011

TH89 posted:

I'm not even sure what we're talking about

afaik the only difference between the MPC and the MIDI pads is that you have to load samples on the MPC on floppy disks which is a pain in the ass

I thought you could load samples from any source live.. or is that just the maschine?

**thisispain** · 6th January 2011

TH89 posted:

I'm not even sure what we're talking about

afaik the only difference between the MPC and the MIDI pads is that you have to load samples on the MPC on floppy disks which is a pain in the ass

no the computer and sound engine shit sounds really different

i'll post some examples

**Lachz0r** · 6th January 2011

do all new yorkers say pronounce four like nas does?

**thisispain** · 6th January 2011

here i made a little comparison thingy
http://soundcloud.com/thisispain/mpc

first one is your average computer sampler at max quality, the second one is an old MPC

ElGrego · 6th January 2011

Grand Puba!

Nifae · 6th January 2011

Funcoot posted:

Ordered my Akai MPD18.

Gonna be layin down dem phat beats :smug:

Probably going to order my keyboard tomorrow.

This. It just came in the mail today, I've got it hooked up but I don't know how to set it up for FL Studio -- the pads do nothing at the moment. Any tips? I've got the FPC thing open.

I need a bigger desk and one of those USB Firewire port things, lol. Had to unhook my microphone to fit the beatpad on the desk.

Also, if anyone has any awesome ambient songs like this they'd like to link to me, I'm looking for stuff to sample. Kid Cudi just rapped over this song for "Man on the Moon."

And if anyone is skilled at some music program and would like to make some beats from sampled ambient songs, post here or PM me.

**imaguy** · 7th January 2011

I love AZ, his rhyming and flow is sick as hell, even if he rhymes so many words together the lyrics are a little nonsensical

**TH89** · 7th January 2011

AZ is the shit

Dr. Disciple · 7th January 2011

NEW MADVILLIAN!!!

:gizz:

**Soulbrother** · 7th January 2011

Dr. Disciple posted:

NEW MADVILLIAN!!!

View YouTUBE video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_YTSgb5H7-I

:gizz:

Heard that on the podcast the other day. If that and "Papermill" are any indication of what's to come, don't expect a sophomore slump from Madvillain.

And since I'm in here and happen to be listening to Madlib, you guys can listen too.

**thisispain** · 7th January 2011

holy dicks new madvillian

not even th89 can touch that

Hamm0 · 7th January 2011

Any good? I'm so so about it

Nifae · 7th January 2011

What would last a normal MC an entire song would last him ten seconds.

Edited:

Got the MPD18 working but the beat pads play completely different ones in FL Studio, and most don't play at all. Hnnngh.

ThunderGod · 7th January 2011

Hamm0 posted:

Any good? I'm so so about it

Wow this is sick, I love it when people rap over classical

**TH89** · 7th January 2011

Tonedeff is a great rapper. He's kind of an asshole though.

Hamm0 · 8th January 2011

TH89 posted:

Tonedeff is a great rapper. He's kind of an asshole though.

Dang, I just started playing Deltron's 3030, got it yesterday. Hope this is good.

Edited:

Shiiiiiiit, i just noticed your post amount, you're like a post whore.

**Funcoot** · 8th January 2011

Has anybody here actually given any of B.o.B.'s new mix tape a listen?

Beast Mode

Feet Don't Fail Me Now

That mix has some serious shit on it.

**imaguy** · 8th January 2011

TH89 posted:

AZ is the shit

Seems like his career is in a slump, though. Judging by the awfully written wikipedia article he's having difficulty finding a label to drop doe or die 2 on

CheeserCrice · 8th January 2011

Hamm0 posted:

Dang, I just started playing Deltron's 3030, got it yesterday. Hope this is good.

Deltron 3030 is pretty bad in my opinion. Del tha funky homosapien is a great rapper but the production sounded crap on most of it, and it seemed a bit rushed.

Debauchery · 8th January 2011

Dr. Disciple posted:

NEW MADVILLIAN!!!

:gizz:

OH SHIT. Any idea on when this will come out? I love me some Madvillainy.

Nifae · 8th January 2011

Got my MPD18 pad fully working, although I can't use the Oxygen 49 yet because my desk is too small. If anyone has some good sites for samples/drum packs, do tell.

Also, does anyone know how to record into FL Studio with the pad controller? Lots of people do it on Youtube but I can't figure out how.