[Ldesu]

tomatmann posted:

Modern cars are so ugly. Stop making environmental friendly cars. Global warming is does not exist. It is just the earth isn't in a stable orbit.

Edited:

Look at this fuel drinking car like this.
Buick Skylar.

You should shut up, you said yourself that you are 12 years old:

tomatmann posted:

Bor I Ostenfold og er 12 år .)

"I live in 'Ostenfold' (dumb misspelling of Østfold) and are 12 years old"

http://www.facepunch.com/group.php?d...7&pp=30&page=2

[c0nk3r]

I agree that global warming is BS, just because i dont really care if the worlds going to end, its fucked already. We might as well have fun with our muscle cars in the mean time.

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Valon Kyre posted:

The one thing I liked about older cars is that they incorperated the headlights into the grill, or has 1 complete grill. I find that having them seprate from the grill (off to the side) looks too bland and generic.

Kind of bad example.

I own both of these cars :)


Compared to something like this.



Just my personal preference though.

MFW i noticed my friends dad's drag racer has cardboard headlights

[Bredirish123]

I'm currently driving a 1966 Ford Galaxie 500. It has a 390 V8 Bigblock and it is one sexy fucking car. It's a bit beat up looking because my dad is still working on it, but it runs great. The only thing that sucks is gas mileage.


It looks a lot like this one.

[Ubercharged]

http://www.comparecontracthire.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/scirocco.jpg

qui, no?

[vexxrz]

aaaah, volkswagen scirocco.

European cars beat american cars at every point.
Who rates boxes doesn't know shit.

[Ldesu]

vexxrz posted:

European cars beat american cars at every point.

not looks

[sbradford26]

"The volkswagen scirocco for those who like their arms."
Great episode of top gear.

[vexxrz]

Ldesu posted:

not looks

meh, true for some cars :p For the classic muscle cars, yes, for the new cars, no.

Think about audi, bmw, aston martin, ferrari, lamborghini,..

[rampageturke 2]

Ldesu posted:

not looks

uhm look at every euro ford that was sold to the us market, they all look worse than their euro counterparts

[Ldesu]

rampageturke 2 posted:

uhm look at every euro ford that was sold to the us market, they all look worse than their euro counterparts

that's just ford

[rampageturke 2]

Ldesu posted:

that's just ford

so? the point is still valid

[Ldesu]

rampageturke 2 posted:

so? the point is still valid

One single brand makes every old european car look better than any old american car?
I don't think so

[debmaster]

Oh boy, I love European bandwagoners. Especially the fact that they never have any proof to back up their claims (other than Top Gear, which is pathetic) and most of them are not even old enough to drive. Those that do drive have a <200hp, 10 year old Euro trash box.

[rampageturke 2]

debmaster posted:

Oh boy, I love European bandwagoners. Especially the fact that they never have any proof to back up their claims (other than Top Gear, which is pathetic) and most of them are not even old enough to drive. Those that do drive have a <200hp, 10 year old Euro trash box.

huh?

[vexxrz]

debmaster posted:

Oh boy, I love European bandwagoners. Especially the fact that they never have any proof to back up their claims (other than Top Gear, which is pathetic) and most of them are not even old enough to drive. Those that do drive have a <200hp, 10 year old Euro trash box.

That doesn't make any sense. If it's about the quality, there is enough proof that american cars aren't as good as european. Looks are just opinions. And what car you drive doesn't have anything to do with what you know.

random example.


this is a corvette.
leaf springs.
Europeans use leaf springs under old school trucks.

[Justin Case]

Forumaster posted:

1982 DeLorean DMC-12


You just can't find beauty like this in today's cars. It's sad.

My grandfather started restoring a Delorean about 8 years ago but parts were hard to come by and he never finished it, he had to auction it off as the parts he needed were going to set him back for decades. Decades which he doesn't have :frown:

[lemon_lover]

vexxrz posted:

That doesn't make any sense. If it's about the quality, there is enough proof that american cars aren't as good as european. Looks are just opinions. And what car you drive doesn't have anything to do with what you know.

random example.


this is a corvette.
leaf springs.
Europeans use leaf springs under old school trucks.

kinda looks like a really thick sway bar

[rampageturke 2]

this one better?

[Demache]

vexxrz posted:

That doesn't make any sense. If it's about the quality, there is enough proof that american cars aren't as good as european. Looks are just opinions. And what car you drive doesn't have anything to do with what you know.

random example.


this is a corvette.
leaf springs.
Europeans use leaf springs under old school trucks.

I'm sure you've already read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette_leaf_spring

[debmaster]

vexxrz posted:

That doesn't make any sense. If it's about the quality, there is enough proof that american cars aren't as good as european. Looks are just opinions. And what car you drive doesn't have anything to do with what you know.

random example.

this is a corvette.
leaf springs.
Europeans use leaf springs under old school trucks.

You say there is proof, yet you provide none.

It's also absolutely dreadful when a car manufacturer uses something simple, reliable, and works. What the Corvette really needs is an extremely uneccessary completely electronic adjustable-adaptable electromagnetic suspension with 500 sensors. Also if any of these sensors malfunctions (which they will), it will cause the entire system to malfunction. To repair this malfunction would also cost $10,000, just because we can.

[lemon_lover]

my car has crank windows, cable release hatch, manual locks, a simple stereo, and maybe 5 vacuum lines in the engine bay.

my friends gti has power windows, power locks, power gas door, power hatch release, power sunroof, can roll up his windows and close his sunroof with his key in the door, ecu controlled boost, and like 40 vacuum lines.

Mine might have less creature comforts, but he has tons of superfluous things that could go wrong.

[Prismatex]

vexxrz posted:

That doesn't make any sense. If it's about the quality, there is enough proof that american cars aren't as good as european. Looks are just opinions. And what car you drive doesn't have anything to do with what you know.

random example.


this is a corvette.
leaf springs.
Europeans use leaf springs under old school trucks.

The Corvette leaf spring is a significantly different concept from other leaf springs - it's not the same at all.

[moesislack]

Look at this man so sick. To bad my dad totaled his. The gearshift fucked up his leg.

[biodude94566]

moesislack posted:

Look at this man so sick. To bad my dad totaled his. The gearshift fucked up his leg.

there's a stuffed monkey in the back window

Edited:

at least, I think it's a monkey

[MikeL14]

It's a dog.

[Tu154M]

debmaster posted:

Oh boy, I love European bandwagoners. Especially the fact that they never have any proof to back up their claims (other than Top Gear, which is pathetic) and most of them are not even old enough to drive. Those that do drive have a <200hp, 10 year old Euro trash box.

Sorry bro but you sound like a complete douche.

[vexxrz]

debmaster posted:

You say there is proof, yet you provide none.

It's also absolutely dreadful when a car manufacturer uses something simple, reliable, and works. What the Corvette really needs is an extremely uneccessary completely electronic adjustable-adaptable electromagnetic suspension with 500 sensors. Also if any of these sensors malfunctions (which they will), it will cause the entire system to malfunction. To repair this malfunction would also cost $10,000, just because we can.

Hmm that's true. What it does proof is that americans keep it more to basics. All those sensors and electromagnetic adjustable stuff, can make a car more reliable on the road, and make it stick to the road, but yes they have a bigger chance of breaking down...but these days it's very reliable :) Malfunction of electromagnetic suspension isn't something u see everyday in a garage..

Don't tell me leaf springs give the same reliability.

Let's say it this way: american cars are good as long as there aren't too much corners
American cars are more basic, in looks and in technique.

[Hell Strike]

you're talking about reliabilty, where you're wrong again and then you use that reliability argument to say that american cars can't take corners?

what are you doing and how many american cars have you tried to take around corners because they work just fine for me.

[MacHaddock]

debmaster posted:

You say there is proof, yet you provide none.

It's also absolutely dreadful when a car manufacturer uses something simple, reliable, and works. What the Corvette really needs is an extremely uneccessary completely electronic adjustable-adaptable electromagnetic suspension with 500 sensors. Also if any of these sensors malfunctions (which they will), it will cause the entire system to malfunction. To repair this malfunction would also cost $10,000, just because we can.

This is kind of retarded though. Simply because; not running leaf springs =/= running "extremely uneccessary completely electronic adjustable-adaptable electromagnetic suspension with 500 sensors"

I am fully aware of the fact that the corvette doesn't have regular 30s leaf springs, but since they've been using coil springs in the front since the C1, I don't understand why they just don't use them in the rear as well.

[rampageturke 2]

please guys this is for asthetic design not mechanical design!

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Hell Strike posted:

you're talking about reliabilty, where you're wrong again and then you use that reliability argument to say that american cars can't take corners?

what are you doing and how many american cars have you tried to take around corners because they work just fine for me.

I think he has watched too much top gear!

Edited:

Hell Strike posted:

you're talking about reliabilty, where you're wrong again and then you use that reliability argument to say that american cars can't take corners?

what are you doing and how many american cars have you tried to take around corners because they work just fine for me.

I think he has watched too much top gear!

[Spectre1406]

Is this what you call a De Tomaso?

[c0nk3r]

i wanna pose off of hell strike and buy a GTO body and make a sexy merican muscle car

Edited:

but my knowledge of cars/ my dads knowledge of cars/ our lack of garage means i really will just buy some PoS car :c

[vexxrz]

rampageturke 2 posted:

please guys this is for asthetic design not mechanical design!

Edited:



I think he has watched too much top gear!

Edited:



I think he has watched too much top gear!

idiot.
Taking good corners is a part of good reliability. Everyone knows americans haven't invented shit for their cars, all things are taken from european cars. American cars are behind on europeans now, and they always will be. Enough articles on the internet to proof that, but i won't bother taking my time to proof that cause it seems it doesn't really matter on a forum with people who all love american cars.

:D :D (sorry, missed some smileys in this reply)

O yeah, don't know what you're job is, but try to work on both american and european cars. If you have any clue how cars work, you'll notice the difference on many levels.

[Tu154M]

vexxrz posted:

idiot.
Taking good corners is a part of good reliability. Everyone knows americans haven't invented shit for their cars, all things are taken from european cars. American cars are behind on europeans now, and they always will be. Enough articles on the internet to proof that, but i won't bother taking my time to proof that cause it seems it doesn't really matter on a forum with people who all love american cars.

:D :D (sorry, missed some smileys in this reply)

O yeah, don't know what you're job is, but try to work on both american and european cars. If you have any clue how cars work, you'll notice the difference on many levels.

Hi there,

Shut up.

Yours sincerely,
Tu154M

[vexxrz]

O just this one, cause it's funny.

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/H...a_European_car

(can be taken unserious at some points)

oh, Tu154M, yes that really shows how much u know about it, big ups.

[Tu154M]

im sry ur vry clever ur rite actully.

[Pringles.]

vexxrz posted:

idiot.
Taking good corners is a part of good reliability. Everyone knows americans haven't invented shit for their cars, all things are taken from european cars. American cars are behind on europeans now, and they always will be. Enough articles on the internet to proof that, but i won't bother taking my time to proof that cause it seems it doesn't really matter on a forum with people who all love american cars.

:D :D (sorry, missed some smileys in this reply)

O yeah, don't know what you're job is, but try to work on both american and european cars. If you have any clue how cars work, you'll notice the difference on many levels.

You're an idiot. I mean seriously, you haven't even driven an American car, you've just watched too much Top Gear. To me it seems like you just wanna start up a shitstorm, get out.

Edited:

:frog:

[vexxrz]

Pringles. posted:

You're an idiot. I mean seriously, you haven't even driven an American car, you've just watched too much Top Gear. To me it seems like you just wanna start up a shitstorm, get out.

Edited:

:frog:

:') Sure.

Why isn't anybody giving arguments about why i'm wrong but only making this a childish topic by flaming me?

[lemon_lover]

because it's like arguing over how apples shouldn't be blue. they're not, so what the fuck is there to argue about?

you'd probably piss yourself if you got into a supercharged mustang cobra.

maybe one of the reasons american cars don't have amazing handling is because most dont need it? America is big, with mostly straight roads. most of europe is insanely thin two lane roads and switchbacks*.

it doesn't even fucking matter. who cares what handles better, thats not what everyone wants



* i dont even care if thats right, if you can make wild assumptions, so can i

[vexxrz]

lemon_lover posted:

because it's like arguing over how apples shouldn't be blue. they're not, so what the fuck is there to argue about?

you'd probably piss yourself if you got into a supercharged mustang cobra.

maybe one of the reasons american cars don't have amazing handling is because most dont need it? America is big, with mostly straight roads. most of europe is insanely thin two lane roads and switchbacks*.

it doesn't even fucking matter. who cares what handles better, thats not what everyone wants



* i dont even care if thats right, if you can make wild assumptions, so can i

I didn't say it matters, i didn't start the rage about what i said.
And no i wouldn't piss myself, i've been in faster cars then a mustang cobra.
Doesn't matter, you guys think im a 15 year old who has never touched or driven a car, hold that thought.