1. Post #8801
    Stay Rusty
    postal's Avatar
    April 2005
    11,637 Posts
    Postal Postal Postal?
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  2. Post #8802
    Jherkin Gherkin
    Dennab
    October 2010
    12,198 Posts
    satan satan satan
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  3. Post #8803
    ಥ益ಥ ... Beautiful.
    Kill001's Avatar
    April 2006
    11,877 Posts
    in 3 seperate posts?

    postal
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  4. Post #8804
    Oh no, what have I done!
    milkandcooki's Avatar
    November 2007
    21,303 Posts
    -got NINJAD by the worst person-
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  5. Post #8805
    like..dude..nevermind....fuck
    DarkZero135's Avatar
    July 2011
    4,600 Posts
    Jesus Jenkem just cut it with the fedora shit, no matter what you wear it with you will look like a fucking geeky retarded sperg.

    (User was banned for this post ("Flaming and trolling. Yet again. Next is permaban." - postal))
    bahah
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  6. Post #8806
    Jat Goodwin's Avatar
    August 2008
    931 Posts
    GAY_WEED_DRAMA_69 EDITION
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  7. Post #8807
    Gold Member
    Foosili's Avatar
    January 2005
    7,620 Posts
    ahahaha fuck
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  8. Post #8808
    I ROLL THE NICKELS
    CodeMonkey3's Avatar
    October 2008
    17,847 Posts
    I legitimately used to like Kawaii, but he's far too angry. Sure, Notrabies posts about shotguns; but they're AIRSOFT GUNS in an AIRSOFT forum, and he's helped loads of people. Sure, Ossum posts a lot about his personal life, but he just wants somebody to talk to. It might get a little out of hand, but, in my personal opinion, it's somewhat understandable. But all Kawaii does here is be angry.

    Edited:

    And German's kickass.
    Shotguns are really cool, I enjoy his posts because they're pretty badass. Shotguns in Airsoft are a novelty most of the time.

    Edited:

    Postal

    ok guys, show's over

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    wwow you ninja cunt
    BEETLE JUICE BEETLE JUICE BEETLE JUICE

    Edited:

    So even way back when I wasn't a hipster who actually contributed and wasn't an asshole, I was still a hipster and you hated me?
    I'm sorry I didn't specify an exact timeline. Geez.
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  9. Post #8809
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    August 2011
    4,558 Posts
    T91 railed handguard. Yes or no?





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  10. Post #8810
    T91 railed handguard. Yes or no?





    Naw dude, the handguard you have is sexy as fuck. Don't tactifuck it.
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  11. Post #8811
    Jat Goodwin's Avatar
    August 2008
    931 Posts

    do want.
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  12. Post #8812
    Jherkin Gherkin
    Dennab
    October 2010
    12,198 Posts
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  13. Post #8813
    I ROLL THE NICKELS
    CodeMonkey3's Avatar
    October 2008
    17,847 Posts


    Looks like a regular M4 with an ugly stock.
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  14. Post #8814
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    November 2007
    2,190 Posts
    everything before the barrel looks ugly as fuck
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  15. Post #8815
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    July 2010
    1,031 Posts
    Just had a nice long talk about gear with Notrabies. 10/10 would interrogate again.
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  16. Post #8816
    Shotgun Guru
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    February 2009
    7,137 Posts
    Shotguns are really cool, I enjoy his posts because they're pretty badass. Shotguns in Airsoft are a novelty most of the time.
    I'd like to point out that my shotguns are more of a novelty than trishots by far, they're just fun to watch and talk about as they're unique. The only reason I post so much about them anyways is because they're kind of a lost art. People got fed up with the Maruzen design for either low power (M870) or low durability (M1100) and most people didn't feel like fixing it up and just sold theirs. I'm one of maybe about 4-5 people I know of who've really researched and innovated on these.
    Most of the things I've posted haven't been done before or are such rare bits of knowledge that people don't know how to do it. Its like a breadcrumb trail future Maruzen users can follow, its what I've had to do with other people to learn a lot of what I know now.
    I figure that even if I give up on these at some point, I'll probably still be on this forum and so other users will have a steady way of contacting me for info.
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  17. Post #8817
    I ROLL THE NICKELS
    CodeMonkey3's Avatar
    October 2008
    17,847 Posts
    Low power? I don't get it. At my field I can't use the chinashit copies of the Maruzen clones because the FPS is too high for CQB. Hence why I never bought one. So I'd imagine low power is a pro for a CQB weapon.
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  18. Post #8818
    Shotgun Guru
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    February 2009
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    Low power? I don't get it. At my field I can't use the chinashit copies of the Maruzen clones because the FPS is too high for CQB. Hence why I never bought one. So I'd imagine low power is a pro for a CQB weapon.
    You so silly, you're thinking Marushin. The ACM M500 likes to shoot at 500fps if it shoots one bb at a time, which can happen due to the loading tube design. Normally it shoots 5 bb's and chronos safely. Stock Maruzen M870's shoot at about 260 fps with one bb. Kind of a different ball game.

    Edited:

    This is also why I post about my shotguns so much, most people don't even know a thing about them, I'm just proud I've taught you guys enough that you remember that they exist.
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  19. Post #8819
    child porn prodigy
    venom's Avatar
    April 2005
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    Stock Maruzen M870's shoot at about 260 fps with one bb. Kind of a different ball game.
    wow what, really?

    wtf i knew they weren't exactly 9000fps killing machines, but damn

    Edited:

    what about with that airsoft surgeon upgrade thingy from RWA
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  20. Post #8820
    Shotgun Guru
    notrabies's Avatar
    February 2009
    7,137 Posts
    wow what, really?

    wtf i knew they weren't exactly 9000fps killing machines, but damn

    Edited:

    what about with that airsoft surgeon upgrade thingy from RWA
    That's where things get interesting, that upgrade brings it up to about 400fps in theory. I believe that's occuring in warm weather, and that you'll never get more than that, but its one of a number of factors affecting the system. In cold weather, my stock M870 performs better than the upgraded one due to the short length of hose. As the hose is fairly thin and uninsulated, the long hose in the full stock M870 really kills the power of the gun in winter. It went from shooting 8-10 shots to 3-5 shots, while the shorty was totally unaffected.
    There's a ridiculous number of factors at work, but with time and parts you can basically get them shooting any way you want them to. Once I get my shorty set up for an external air rig and replace the leaky hose, I'll be throwing in the airsoft surgeon's upgraded hammer spring. In theory I'll be shooting 8-10 shots per shell with no issue and be unaffected by most cold weather that I find indoors. (At least down into the mid 50's)
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  21. Post #8821
    child porn prodigy
    venom's Avatar
    April 2005
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    Hm, I'm still considering getting an M870 sometime after I get my 105. I'll have to talk more with you later and see if it's worth the huge investment.
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  22. Post #8822
    Shotgun Guru
    notrabies's Avatar
    February 2009
    7,137 Posts
    For example, here's one of my favorite stories involving these shotguns.
    For the first time, I was letting one of the staff members borrow one of my M870's. I taught him the basics, and we're all ready to go to town. Unfortunately, its cold on the field. Game objective is to capture all of the 15ish flags/objects located in the center of the field.
    Him and I start off the game and get a sweet firing angle on their spawn and we see one of the regulars zip by about 15 feet in front of us towards the objectives. We immediately unload on him, but he's wearing a trenchcoat. He makes multiple passes without even realizing he's being hit by over 100 bb's. We finally nail him in the goggles and he turns our way and realizes we were lighting him up the whole time. He takes back all of the objectives and tells us he had absolutely no idea what was happening. If it was warmer, or our shells were loaded with less bb's, he would have felt the first shot no problem. Point being, you can customize these things to shoot any way you want.
    Luckily, when it works, the M1100 is far more nightmarish then the M870's.
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  23. Post #8823
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    June 2009
    465 Posts
    "when it works" seems like the deal breaker
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  24. Post #8824
    Shotgun Guru
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    February 2009
    7,137 Posts
    Oh, and the initial investment isn't that bad actually. While you've got the whole Canadian nightmare of FPS regs, its not bad at all.
    You start off with a few shells and a speed loader, with a large dependence on your sidearm, and you slowly build it up. All you really need is an M870 or M1100, the redwolf upgrade to deal with your dumb Canadian laws, and about 10 shell to start with. Considering the things that have been going on lately in my M1014 kit discussion, I feel confident enough to start recommending the M1100 again. We're currently working on the last internal part that needs upgrading before the whole thing is good to go.

    Edited:

    "when it works" seems like the deal breaker
    That's where I come in, the research I've been doing is not going to waste, especially when you're in direct contact with someone with a CNC mill who's currently rebuilding all the internal parts in aircraft aluminum. (Only one part left to go!)
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  25. Post #8825
    child porn prodigy
    venom's Avatar
    April 2005
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    Oh, and the initial investment isn't that bad actually. While you've got the whole Canadian nightmare of FPS regs, its not bad at all.
    You start off with a few shells and a speed loader, with a large dependence on your sidearm, and you slowly build it up. All you really need is an M870 or M1100, the redwolf upgrade to deal with your dumb Canadian laws, and about 10 shell to start with. Considering the things that have been going on lately in my M1014 kit discussion, I feel confident enough to start recommending the M1100 again. We're currently working on the last internal part that needs upgrading before the whole thing is good to go.
    Hm, the 870 itself going to cost me about $800. Then I need a better sidearm since my P226 is an ass about 85% of the time, the mags are shit and is non-stop leaking.

    I'm thinking of running a KWA MP9 with the 870, I'd prefer a TM Skorpion but fuck if I know where to get one.
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  26. Post #8826
    YEAH, AND?
    felix the cat's Avatar
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    Mmmmm KMP9 goodness
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  27. Post #8827
    Shotgun Guru
    notrabies's Avatar
    February 2009
    7,137 Posts
    Hm, the 870 itself going to cost me about $800. Then I need a better sidearm since my P226 is an ass about 85% of the time, the mags are shit and is non-stop leaking.

    I'm thinking of running a KWA MP9 with the 870, I'd prefer a TM Skorpion but fuck if I know where to get one.
    Ignore the gross RIS, this is exactly what you want: http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...0_Revision.htm
    Because of the pistol grip design it gets that wonderful efficiency in cold weather, and a because of the short hose length it gets a minor boost in FPS. My Full stock M870 chronoed about 350-380 depending on temperatures, and if you get that upgrade I imagine it'll pass your limits with ease.
    Most importantly, due to its tiny size you can use it as a backup to your primary so it doesn't require you to have a pistol.
    Also, apparently it only costs 1 more in Canadian dollars than in US dollars, so that's not bad.
    So with the upgrade its about $350+shipping. Then you throw in a few packs of shells and you should be set for under $500. You'll just need to request Redwolf to include a chronograph sheet so you can import it legally.

    Edited:

    In theory at least, Canadasoft is a confusing quagmire to the foreigners.
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  28. Post #8828
    Jherkin Gherkin
    Dennab
    October 2010
    12,198 Posts
    gross ris is a problem with rails
    makes you wanna gouge your eyes with nails
    canadian dollars are inferior to the america counter part
    but its alright, we street smart
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  29. Post #8829
    child porn prodigy
    venom's Avatar
    April 2005
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    Ignore the gross RIS, this is exactly what you want: http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...0_Revision.htm
    Because of the pistol grip design it gets that wonderful efficiency in cold weather, and a because of the short hose length it gets a minor boost in FPS. My Full stock M870 chronoed about 350-380 depending on temperatures, and if you get that upgrade I imagine it'll pass your limits with ease.
    Most importantly, due to its tiny size you can use it as a backup to your primary so it doesn't require you to have a pistol.
    Also, apparently it only costs 1 more in Canadian dollars than in US dollars, so that's not bad.
    So with the upgrade its about $350+shipping. Then you throw in a few packs of shells and you should be set for under $500. You'll just need to request Redwolf to include a chronograph sheet so you can import it legally.

    Edited:

    In theory at least, Canadasoft is a confusing quagmire to the foreigners.
    Hm, but I want the full length 870 lol

    Mainly because it's so sexy and badass
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  30. Post #8830
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    February 2009
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    Thank you German. Also, the RIS is removable/cutable and you could probably source a defender II foregrip (those look damn good) if you looked around enough.

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    Hm, but I want the full length 870 lol

    Mainly because it's so sexy and badass
    Okay, that's where things start getting tricky, especially with importation business.
    Basically, they're the hardest to get up to high FPS, because they have the long hose and they're M870's. Luckily, its quite probable that you could get it done. Just send Redwolf an email, about how Canadasoft's fps limits work and ask if they think it would work. The wood stock with the upgrade runs about $460 with shipping, so with a few packs of shells you're still only looking at $600. Also, just wait for Redwolf to announce one of their sales if they don't have one going one right now. I shaved $200 off my M870 purchase.
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  31. Post #8831
    YEAH, AND?
    felix the cat's Avatar
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    guize I'm super excited to get my new pistols next month

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  32. Post #8832
    child porn prodigy
    venom's Avatar
    April 2005
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    Thank you German. Also, the RIS is removable/cutable and you could probably source a defender II foregrip (those look damn good) if you looked around enough.
    See, I can import this
    http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...ck_Version.htm
    for about $712, or about $900 with the AS upgrade
    That's a pretty sizeable lump of money..

    But goddamn it's so sexy..
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  33. Post #8833
    YEAH, AND?
    felix the cat's Avatar
    December 2010
    9,470 Posts
    See, I can import this
    http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...ck_Version.htm
    for about $712, or about $900 with the AS upgrade
    That's a pretty sizeable lump of money..

    But goddamn it's so sexy..
    so.
    much.
    money...I'm so sorry
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  34. Post #8834
    Shotgun Guru
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    February 2009
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    See, I can import this
    http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...ck_Version.htm
    for about $712, or about $900 with the AS upgrade
    That's a pretty sizeable lump of money..

    But goddamn it's so sexy..
    Where exactly are these high importation fees coming from? Are you guys only allowed to have websites import for you, even if it meets the velocity limits?
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  35. Post #8835
    YEAH, AND?
    felix the cat's Avatar
    December 2010
    9,470 Posts
    iirc their velocity limit is like 501fps or something like that?
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  36. Post #8836
    child porn prodigy
    venom's Avatar
    April 2005
    15,099 Posts
    Where exactly are these high importation fees coming from? Are you guys only allowed to have websites import for you, even if it meets the velocity limits?
    It's extremely sketchy to import yourself, although I could probably email RWA directly about it.

    A couple of the retailers here have import deals set up with customs and RWA, so they usually do the importing.
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  37. Post #8837
    Shotgun Guru
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    February 2009
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    It's extremely sketchy to import yourself, although I could probably email RWA directly about it.

    A couple of the retailers here have import deals set up with customs and RWA, so they usually do the importing.
    Hmm, from my understanding the only time this mystical 4xx fps figure comes into play is when the gun leaves or enters Canada, surely trying emailing redwolf about it yourself can't hurt, and it might save you about $300, or 33% of your import price. Perhaps your Canadian forums can also help you out as well.
    I mean at this point, you're only about $100-$200 short of buying a Yuji Gun Factory custom SPAS-12 or M3 Super 90. And that company also makes a long length tightbore for the Maruzen series (another $50)that will boost fps above the required limits, probably to about 450 fps.
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  38. Post #8838
    child porn prodigy
    venom's Avatar
    April 2005
    15,099 Posts
    Hmm, from my understanding the only time this mystical 4xx fps figure comes into play is when the gun leaves or enters Canada, surely trying emailing redwolf about it yourself can't hurt, and it might save you about $300, or 50% of your import price. Perhaps your Canadian forums can also help you out as well.
    I mean at this point, you're only about $100-$200 short of buying a Yuji Gun Factory custom SPAS-12 or M3 Super 90. And that company also makes a long length tightbore for the Maruzen series (another $50)that will boost fps above the required limits, probably to about 450 fps.
    Yeah, I'll probs end up emailing RWA when I have the dosh for it.
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  39. Post #8839
    No such thing as overkill.
    catbarf's Avatar
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    So one of my friends just got that WE G17 and brought it over for me to take a look at, and I'm pretty impressed- holding it, it's not bad by any means, definitely higher quality externals at least than my KJW M9 (granted, mine is the older plastic one), and with a few good features like easily adjustable hop-up and the trademark Glock safety. What really struck me is the weight, for a plastic gun it's pretty heavy and although it's been a while since I held one I'm pretty sure the real Glock is about the same as the replica. It also has very heavy recoil which took me by surprise. That said, I haven't actually seen it shoot, and for all I know the internals may actually be total crap, but it shows signs of being a decent sidearm. The main obstacle now is finding magazines.
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  40. Post #8840
    Shotgun Guru
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    February 2009
    7,137 Posts
    Doesn't it just take TM magazines?
    Also, apparently Redwolf will not ship to individuals in Canada, its in their FAQ, and after reading up a bit, I agree that your only legitimate hope is retailer importation. What a bummer.
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