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***zer0*** · 26th January 2012

Aww year, Overkill

**lil timmy** · 26th January 2012

wow that's some strong Maiden and Priest influences there. I'm mostly familiar with I guess what you can only call classic Overkill, but it is always interesting to hear a band's demos.

By the way, I don't know about you lot but I've always wondered why Anthrax were elevated to Big 4 status when tbh they don't have as many good albums as Overkill or Exodus. I quite like Anthrax by all means, but really only Among The LIving has that kind of "classic" status, wheras Overkill have at least two or three albums you could call classic thrash albums.

***zer0*** · 26th January 2012

I think the whole "big four" thing is stupid to be honest

**lil timmy** · 26th January 2012

agreed, but given the reception to it at festivals and things you can't deny it shifts tickets.

Doman · 26th January 2012

***zer0*** posted:

I think the whole "big four" thing is stupid to be honest

People just seem to forget that the big 4 refer to the most inluential thrash figures, not the best or most innovative.

**UberWarri0r** · 26th January 2012

lil timmy posted:

I don't get what you're trying to say lol.

Although on the subject of depressive metal who likes Depressive Black Metal? I admit it does sound a bit fey but it's often good stuff to listen to. Quite like Bethlehem myself.

Use to listen to it, but don't really listen to much now other Xasthur.

**Gmod4ever** · 26th January 2012

lil timmy posted:

although on the same kind of subject I wish more funeral doom metal bands would break from the whole "my dying bride but really slow" formula. I like MDB, but tbh I prefer stuff more like what I like to call the finnish template of funeral doom a la Skepticism and Thergothon. That's less of a "waaa I'll moan about this on the internet" thing and more of a personal preference.

I've noticed a lot of Funeral Doom bands don't play anything much like Skepticism, which saddens me because I really like Skepticism.

I've gotten to the point I don't really bother looking for funeral doom any more.

**Vedicardi** · 26th January 2012

lil timmy posted:

tbh this might just be because I used to read metal hammer and most of the metalheads I know hail it as "saving metal" which as you might imagine gets a bit grating after a while since A: Metal is fine, arguably stronger in terms of quality (although this is totally subjective) than it has been in the last 10 years and B: if it did need saving then playing thrash like it's 1984 would be an indicator of stagnation rather than of progress.

tl:dr I get annoyed at things I really shouldn't bother with.

E:
although on the same kind of subject I wish more funeral doom metal bands would break from the whole "my dying bride but really slow" formula. I like MDB, but tbh I prefer stuff more like what I like to call the finnish template of funeral doom a la Skepticism and Thergothon. That's less of a "waaa I'll moan about this on the internet" thing and more of a personal preference.

don't read metal magazines lol there's all you need to know. record labels basically pay them to say that

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lil timmy posted:

wow that's some strong Maiden and Priest influences there. I'm mostly familiar with I guess what you can only call classic Overkill, but it is always interesting to hear a band's demos.

By the way, I don't know about you lot but I've always wondered why Anthrax were elevated to Big 4 status when tbh they don't have as many good albums as Overkill or Exodus. I quite like Anthrax by all means, but really only Among The LIving has that kind of "classic" status, wheras Overkill have at least two or three albums you could call classic thrash albums.

because among the living is better than anything exodus ever did.
exodus made two good albums, anthrax made one amazing one and two good albums
Overkill made one great album, one good one, a bunch of kinda shitty ones, one amazing one, more garbage, then recently started making good ones again. They're too hit or miss.

Anthrax made it BIGGGGGGGGGGGGG in the late 80s with Among and their crossover stuff into rap in 1990/1991

Edited:

tl;dr anthrax was more consistent in the 80s and remained relevant in the early 90s

**Kyle v2** · 27th January 2012

'nuff said

**Vedicardi** · 27th January 2012

people like those albums a lot
don't ask me why

Edited:

I'm just saying they were big after Among

**Kel|oggs** · 27th January 2012

Infuckingcredible.

Mr. Bleak · 27th January 2012

So, I never really liked extreme metal (aside from thrash, but I don't really consider that extreme) before now, but I'm starting to get into it after listening to a lot of prog rock/metal stuff.

Any suggestions of bands similar to Katatonia or Bloodbath?

**abcpea2** · 27th January 2012

linkin park

**Vedicardi** · 27th January 2012

limp bizkit

**Kyle v2** · 27th January 2012

SLIPKNOT

**Gmod4ever** · 27th January 2012

Mr. Bleak posted:

So, I never really liked extreme metal (aside from thrash, but I don't really consider that extreme) before now, but I'm starting to get into it after listening to a lot of prog rock/metal stuff.

Any suggestions of bands similar to Katatonia or Bloodbath?

What era Katatonia?

Probably not early Katatonia, since you said you don't much care for extreme metal.

If you want Viva Emptiness-era Katatonia, then you may want to look into nu metal, because, sorry to say, Viva Emptiness-era Katatonia have heavy nu-metal tendencies, with Gothic influences. You may want to check out Paradise Lost's Symbol of Life and Paradise Lost albums. They're more rock than metal, but they have those same Gothic vibes Katatonia have, and have a few parts that are nu-metal influenced.

If you want new, Night is the New Day-era Katatonia, then I suggest Paradise Lost's Faith Divides Us Death Unites Us. It really is a spiritual sister album to Night is the New Day - and consequently I don't much care for either of them.

Don't know anything about Bloodbath, sorry.

Some songs to check.

Paradise Lost - Symbol of Life - Symbol of Life

Paradise Lost - Redshift - Paradise Lost

Paradise Lost - In Truth - Faith Divides Us Death Unites Us

**Zenpod** · 27th January 2012

That cello mang

aliendrone123 · 28th January 2012

Yeah that orchestral part fucking kills

**Kel|oggs** · 28th January 2012

There drummer was a smoking hot chick a few months ago, that is no longer.

These guys are going to be huge in a couple of years, there opening for big bands. They'll be at metal fest 2012 this year.

**mikeyt493** · 28th January 2012

big chocolate (left) is the best death metal vocalist

**Gmod4ever** · 28th January 2012

It's obvious that the Disfiguring the Goddess vocalist isn't try to say anything other than "Bree bree bree bree bree bree," but I can't tell if the I Declare War vocalist is trying to say anything.

I have to admit, they do have really fleshed out gutteral sounds, but I can't understand what they're saying, if anything.

Though I can't help but giggle every time the DtG vocalist goes "bree bree bree bree bree bree," mostly because he waves his arm like a penguin every time he does.

**mikeyt493** · 28th January 2012

Don't think he's got any words going there but his DtG albums have vocals

Also the DtG is on the left haha, they switched names and bands when they introduced for some reason lol

MotherPuncher · 28th January 2012

mikeyt493 posted:

big chocolate (left) is the best death metal vocalist

"death metal"

**Kyle v2** · 28th January 2012

All I heard was two stone slabs grinding against each other.

**Gmod4ever** · 28th January 2012

Kyle v2 posted:

All I heard was two stone slabs grinding against each other.

I think that was the point.

**Kazumi** · 28th January 2012

Fucking hell. Aborted - Global Flatline is a killer!

MotherPuncher · 28th January 2012

i have to listen to that some time

FuckaNinja · 28th January 2012

any dillinger fans?

woo

**Zenpod** · 28th January 2012

Seeing them supporting Mastodon.

**Kel|oggs** · 28th January 2012

Give this a listen.

MotherPuncher · 28th January 2012

Zenpod posted:

Seeing them supporting Mastodon.

lucky fucker

they're the most energetic live act out there

**Zenpod** · 28th January 2012

MotherPuncher posted:

lucky fucker

they're the most energetic live act out there

I told my mate there wouldn't be any pits to make him come.

Whoops.

FuckaNinja · 29th January 2012

this is a better live show and it's very recent, and I got to see it on a live stream.

the crowd interaction is huge which is one of my favorite things about them. most bands would never do anything like that.

**abcpea2** · 29th January 2012

MotherPuncher posted:

lucky fucker

they're the most energetic live act out there

that was dumb

**SilverHammer** · 29th January 2012

Yeah i'd be kinda pissed if the lead singer of any band thought he'd use my head as a literal stepping stone

**Maximum Mod** · 29th January 2012

I like this live performance.

MotherPuncher · 29th January 2012

Zenpod posted:

I told my mate there wouldn't be any pits to make him come.

Whoops.

I doubt there will be much of a pit, but what you DO have to be careful of is having one of the band members jumping on you.

Toveri · 29th January 2012

Maximum Mod posted:

I like this live performance.

I wonder how much they spend on a average show

**Kel|oggs** · 30th January 2012

**SilverHammer** · 30th January 2012

Da fuck is this

it's like 3 inches of blood resurrected angus young to play for them and changed their name

and the singer started dressing like dave mustaine

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and Zakk Wylde showed up too. for some reason