[mikeyt493]

what is pup punk

[Stizzles]

poop punk

[Franke_R!?]

Stizzles posted:

poop punk

It's rude to introduce yourself in the middle of a conversation.

[MachiniOs]

Don't know if Dillinger Four's been mentioned but they're by far one of my favorite punk bands.

[Elementality]

SickJits posted:

fuck la dispute, make do and mend, douche amore, joyce manor, pianos become teeth, all these fucking gay ass "hardcore" bands
fuck them
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you sound like you should be on cmhwak

[Smug Bastard]

AFI used to be hardcore punk until the vocalist turned into a little girl.

[Vedicardi]

Phaaze posted:

Someone needs to make a pup punk thread.

then do it yourself I'm sure that will work out great for you
get the fuck out of my house!

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Smug Bastard posted:

AFI used to be hardcore punk until the vocalist turned into a little girl.

huh I thought their first album was all hallows eve ep or whatever

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MachiniOs posted:

Don't know if Dillinger Four's been mentioned but they're by far one of my favorite punk bands.

great stuff. one of my OLD friends (he is 40 something) showed em to me last week

[Smug Bastard]

Vedicardi posted:

huh I thought their first album was all hallows eve ep or whatever

All Hallows was actually their fifth release, I believe. It came between Black Sails and TAOD.

[sp00ks]

Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes is probably their best album.

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All Hallows EP is great too though.

[Smug Bastard]

sp00ks posted:

Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes is probably their best album.

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All Hallows EP is great too though.

All Hallows EP is pretty sweet. They did a pretty sweet cover of Halloween by The Misfits. Of course it's not as good as the original, but it's still pretty damn good:

Totalimmortal's probably my favorite song on the record though:

[Vedicardi]

sp00ks posted:

Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes is probably their best album.

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All Hallows EP is great too though.

not really that good
just not as horrible as everything after

[UberWarri0r]

Black Metal/Punk incoming.

[sp00ks]

why did they pretty much turn off the vocals in all of those songs?

[mikeyt493]

Adds to the grimness

[UberWarri0r]

sp00ks posted:

why did they pretty much turn off the vocals in all of those songs?

Either a lack of any major mixing(if any) and/or they are meant to be that way.

[Klownox]

Vedicardi posted:

no pop punk or post 2000 "post hardcore" (pop metal/scenecore) shit allowed thank you :)

Why? It's just as punk as anything else. If you're creating a punk mega(super)thread, why disallow discussion of a few specific subgenres you don't particularly enjoy?

[Smug Bastard]

Klownox posted:

Why? It's just as punk as anything else. If you're creating a punk mega(super)thread, why disallow discussion of a few specific subgenres you don't particularly enjoy?

Post-Hardcore isn't a subgenre of punk.

[mikeyt493]

How is it not

It's a type of hardcore

and hardcore is a type of punk

[Klownox]

Smug Bastard posted:

Post-Hardcore isn't a subgenre of punk.

Yes it is. Post-hardcore is a subgenre of hardcore punk, which is an offshoot of general punk rock. In any case, look at the title of the thread: Punk/Hardcore (Punk) Super Thread.

[Smug Bastard]

Klownox posted:

Yes it is. Post-hardcore is a subgenre of hardcore punk, which is an offshoot of general punk rock. In any case, look at the title of the thread: Punk/Hardcore (Punk) Super Thread.

So you're saying this shit is hardcore punk:

[Klownox]

Smug Bastard posted:

So you're saying this shit is hardcore punk:

Did I say that?

For the record: I love AFI. I don't understand why people hate their newer stuff.

Decemberunderground is mainly post-hardcore and alt. rock. Wikipedia also claims that it's post-punk revival, but take that as you will.

In the future, please refrain from putting words into my mouth,

[UberWarri0r]

This thread is for nearly all Punk and Hardcore.

[Teto]

Amia Venera Landscape

Is that hardcore.
Am I getting this right.

[Klownox]

Teto posted:

Amia Venera Landscape

Is that hardcore.
Am I getting this right.

Post-hardcore, yes.

[Teto]

Klownox posted:

Post-hardcore, yes.

What you mean is "no, it's not hardcore"

Then what's hardcore.

[Klownox]

Teto posted:

What you mean is "no, it's not hardcore"

Then what's hardcore.

[GhostProject]

Unsure if someone already asked, or clarified; but are Pixies (pretty much the old Pixies) considered Punk? I'm referring to albums like Trompe le Monde, and Doolittle.

[Teto]

Klownox posted:

Damn this makes me want to play Tony Hawk
This is also pretty cool like <:

[Klownox]

Teto posted:

Damn this makes me want to play Tony Hawk
This is also pretty cool like <:

Yeah, hardcore is pretty awesome. It's not my favourite subgenre of punk, but I'll throw on some hardcore every now and then, and get lost in it.

[Vedicardi]

Klownox posted:

Did I say that?

For the record: I love AFI. I don't understand why people hate their newer stuff.

Decemberunderground is mainly post-hardcore and alt. rock. Wikipedia also claims that it's post-punk revival, but take that as you will.

In the future, please refrain from putting words into my mouth,

it's pop punk and it sucks who cares i just dont want to see it in this thread

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GhostProject posted:

Unsure if someone already asked, or clarified; but are Pixies (pretty much the old Pixies) considered Punk? I'm referring to albums like Trompe le Monde, and Doolittle.

kinda in the minutemen vain, 80s post punk sorta thing with a tinge of pop. very Wire-y

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Klownox posted:

afi has never been hardcore (it's melodic hardcore geeze) and ST and GG are both crossover thrash (excluding both of their first albums (or EPs for gang green))

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Klownox posted:

Yes it is. Post-hardcore is a subgenre of hardcore punk, which is an offshoot of general punk rock. In any case, look at the title of the thread: Punk/Hardcore (Punk) Super Thread.

read the top of the OP before posting thanks

[Klownox]

Vedicardi posted:

it's pop punk and it sucks who cares i just dont want to see it in this thread

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kinda in the minutemen vain, 80s post punk sorta thing with a tinge of pop. very Wire-y

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afi has never been hardcore (it's melodic hardcore geeze) and ST and GG are both crossover thrash (excluding both of their first albums (or EPs for gang green))

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read the top of the OP before posting thanks

You're an elitist prick, I don't really like you. Pop punk is not shit just because you don't like it. It is just as punk as any other subgenre.

About AFI: they have crossed many genres, hardcore, horror punk, screamo, post-hardcore. Again, you're very elitist.

[Vedicardi]

they are shit, pop punk is shit. it is ANTI PUNK.
sorry. cry me a river
it's myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy thread
geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet out

and that's my bbcode for the year

[Klownox]

Vedicardi posted:

they are shit, pop punk is shit. it is ANTI PUNK.
sorry. cry me a river
it's myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy thread
geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet out

and that's my bbcode for the year

Explain how the fuck they are "anti-punk".

[Vedicardi]

now shoo you blink 182 green day fucks

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commercialization is the antithesis of punk DIY idealogy. punk is about being yourself, pop is about fitting in with the mainstream and pandering to popular culture rather than creating your own

[Jack_Thompson]

Vedicardi posted:

now shoo you blink 182 green day fucks

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commercialization is the antithesis of punk DIY idealogy. punk is about being yourself, pop is about fitting in with the mainstream and pandering to popular culture rather than creating your own

Oh, so you're one of those guys who screams sellout as soon as a band signs to a major label, even after years of hard work.

[Klownox]

Vedicardi posted:

now shoo you blink 182 green day fucks

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commercialization is the antithesis of punk DIY idealogy. punk is about being yourself, pop is about fitting in with the mainstream and pandering to popular culture rather than creating your own

pop punk bands are popular because for years they subscribed to punk ideologies, and their work payed off. it's not like as soon as blink182 signed to a major record they dropped the punk mentality. fuck, they still have it to date. you're incredibly pretentious, and that's fucking sad coming from someone who claims to be punk.

go fiddle with your dick

[Vedicardi]

Jack_Thompson posted:

Oh, so you're one of those guys who screams sellout as soon as a band signs to a major label, even after years of hard work.

if they are a punk band, yes? lol
not for any other genre

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Klownox posted:

pop punk bands are popular because for years they subscribed to punk ideologies, and their work payed off. it's not like as soon as blink182 signed to a major record they dropped the punk mentality. fuck, they still have it to date. you're incredibly pretentious, and that's fucking sad coming from someone who claims to be punk.

go fiddle with your dick

they never had the punk mentality, they had a 12 year old boy that wants to win his girlfriend over by playing guitar mentality. that is not punk. punk is about hate and rage and wanting things to change, not writing songs because your girlfriend asked you to

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and I have never claimed to be a punk so I don't know what the hell you're going on about there

[Jacam12SUX]

the fucking DESCENDENTS.

[Stizzles]

Everyone who wants to discuss pop punk and post-hardcore, make a new thread, because it's vastly different from punk and hardcore.

[Vedicardi]

Jacam12SUX posted:

the fucking DESCENDENTS.

the statue of liberty is such a fucking amazing tune
myage and tonyage are great as well
well the whole first album is. got it on vinyl baby yey
2nd album is great too. love "pervert"