Closed Thread Subscribe

HonorGuard · 28th June 2011

Maybe you would be like a piece of it but you are all mutated so you can fly. As you fly if you press Mouse 1 you drop little seeds which infest! Simple to code now.

That actually sounds like a good idea, but how would spore dispersal work? Would you play as a noxious green gas cloud or something like a sinister dandelion poof? Dandelions are weeds, but how many little kids like to blow on the puffball to watch the seeds disperse? Which brings me back to the infestors... Not sure who's really in charge of that project, but I kinda think their attack behavior code needs to be tweeked a little. They don't attack if you leave them alone and keep your distance, which makes since, but has anyone ever tried to walk up to a beehive? You'll eventually get stung. Why is it we can walk through an infestor colony without getting attacked?

**amitakartok** · 28th June 2011

HonorGuard posted:

Has anyone ever tried to walk up to a beehive? You'll eventually get stung. Why is it we can walk through an infestor colony without getting attacked?

Depends on the bees. Normal bees leave you alone if you get out of there quickly while killer bees actively chase you away if you so much as glance in the hive's general direction. Maybe infestors should initially behave like the second one then change to the first one when the hive grows above a certain size? You know, because they have strength in numbers and therefore no need to worry?

antlion01 · 28th June 2011

Perhaps as a visual indicator that the hive has reached the second stage the queen could 'grow' a sort of defence around it, making it harder to kill but still allowing it to spread spores.

selekton99 · 28th June 2011

HonorGuard posted:

That actually sounds like a good idea, but how would spore dispersal work? Would you play as a noxious green gas cloud or something like a sinister dandelion poof? Dandelions are weeds, but how many little kids like to blow on the puffball to watch the seeds disperse? Which brings me back to the infestors... Not sure who's really in charge of that project, but I kinda think their attack behavior code needs to be tweeked a little. They don't attack if you leave them alone and keep your distance, which makes since, but has anyone ever tried to walk up to a beehive? You'll eventually get stung. Why is it we can walk through an infestor colony without getting attacked?

I'm looking at the code now to see how it works. A lot of it seems commented out. But the author of it was paradukes

doggydog1235790 · 28th June 2011

Ok Superllama Wins at gmod.

HonorGuard · 29th June 2011

selekton99 posted:

I'm looking at the code now to see how it works. A lot of it seems commented out. But the author of it was paradukes

Commented out as in it's just sitting there? Code that does nothing? That's weird...

CmdrMatthew · 29th June 2011

It's unfinished code that doesn't work yet. I tried uncommenting it while I was fixing it, it needs to be finished before it can do any good.

Edited:

I think it was a new infestor type that didn't have a way made to create it.

HonorGuard · 29th June 2011

CmdrMatthew posted:

It's unfinished code that doesn't work yet. I tried uncommenting it while I was fixing it, it needs to be finished before it can do any good.

Edited:

I think it was a new infestor type that didn't have a way made to create it.

Interesting. Probrably not a good idea to fiddle with it though...

**ContiX** · 29th June 2011

amitakartok posted:

Depends on the bees. Normal bees leave you alone if you get out of there quickly while killer bees actively chase you away if you so much as glance in the hive's general direction. Maybe infestors should initially behave like the second one then change to the first one when the hive grows above a certain size? You know, because they have strength in numbers and therefore no need to worry?

Again, like the Borg, but more like the first one; they ignore you as long as you don't pose a thread. The moment you fire a gun near them, they attack.

So maybe the infestors would not be "sentient" enough to attack you from the beginning. After they reach a certain evolutionary point (basically, the point where they would have evolved defences), then they might start attacking if you look in their direction. Man, that would be a pain in the butt to build around them (or even on the same map)...you look near them, and they start shooting at you. You'd have to build with walls around you to protect you.

Heck, maybe bees could be one evolutionary step; they could basically just use the Manhack code, and they could fly at you and poison you. Maybe they could go as far as becoming Hydralisk-things, or maybe the queens could evolve into overlords.

Man, I was all against using stuff from other games/shows, but this is really sounding fun.

antlion01 · 29th June 2011

If even half of these ideas make it to code, the infesters will become unstoppable(er).

HonorGuard · 29th June 2011

What's really funny is that you can actually seed a colony if you want. Last time I checked, you can actually unweld them from whatever they're on, then easy-weld them to a target. What really freaked me out is I unwelded one once and just let it float away. Damn thing seeded the ground as it floated around.

Was a sort of infested surface material ever discussed? I think there was a video used as a basis for the discussion... Here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnaJLk8MhL4

Err... Wait, That'd make it like the creep from Starcraft. Dammit, why'd Blizzard have to come up with this stuff first?

CmdrMatthew · 29th June 2011

antlion01 posted:

If even half of these ideas make it to code, the infesters will become unstoppable(er).

I think the lag they cause when there are massive numbers of them needs to be fixed before we can really start adding to them.

Edited:

I think the issue is in their think hooks, they are probably run too often.

**ContiX** · 29th June 2011

CmdrMatthew posted:

I think the lag they cause when there are massive numbers of them needs to be fixed before we can really start adding to them.

Edited:

I think the issue is in their think hooks, they are probably run too often.

Yeah, the lag kind of kills the fun.

Thinking of random stuff, does the GHD work with the MPC? I had a fun idea earlier about making a ship entirely made out of MPCs, with the controllers sitting on a planet somewhere, and the ship moving based on coordinates (or something like that). It could be quite fun to make a transporter "box" that moved around the map almost instantly that you didn't die in. Wait....NO, DR. WHO, STOP MESSING WITH MY SUBCONSIOUS!!!

HonorGuard · 29th June 2011

We can't really have an infestation until that's fixed, but I'm not sure Paradukes just wanted to call them "annoying."

antlion01 · 29th June 2011

CmdrMatthew posted:

I think the lag they cause when there are massive numbers of them needs to be fixed before we can really start adding to them.

But thats their (not so) secret weapon, destroy your pc through intensive lag. ;)

selekton99 · 30th June 2011

CmdrMatthew posted:

It's unfinished code that doesn't work yet. I tried uncommenting it while I was fixing it, it needs to be finished before it can do any good.

Edited:

I think it was a new infestor type that didn't have a way made to create it.

Yeah it seems he was trying to make classes for the infestor that did different things.

selekton99 · 1st July 2011

Also shouldnt Gcombat be updated to Pew Pew or GCombat 2 (when it comes out)?

**amitakartok** · 2nd July 2011

antlion01 posted:

But thats their (not so) secret weapon, destroy your pc through intensive lag. ;)

True.

On another note, is anyone experiencing nuisances with logging in? For some reason closing or even refreshing the browser page logs me out and Firefox won't auto-login anymore.

toddnollan · 2nd July 2011

yes.

**amitakartok** · 2nd July 2011

Sheesh, did the site's designer screw up something or what? I'm not saying I'm an expert at PHP but from what I noticed so far is that not only there's a minor error in the login section but apparently the guy decided it would be fun to use session variables instead of cookies to store the login state. Again, I think that's what's going on but maybe it's on our end.

EDIT: okay, what the hell. It just started keeping my logged-in state again.

**Morcam** · 2nd July 2011

If you clear your cookies and relog in, apparently the issue becomes fixed.

HonorGuard · 3rd July 2011

I wasn't having login issues I don't think, I just kept getting weird crap about how the site was down but some cloud thingy had previous pages I could view... Whatever, seems to be fixed now. >:\

mutle · 4th July 2011

Cool ideas.

Anyhow, welding a chair to a turret base works, but it makes aiming very hard as it's very senitive.

Also, it would be great if infestor colonies would eventually grow into such sizes it could "deploy" some headcrabs, or something similar. Parasites what infest people, and if the infected can't find a cure, he/she dies, and from his/her body, a new colony will grow.

selekton99 · 4th July 2011

mutle posted:

Cool ideas.

Anyhow, welding a chair to a turret base works, but it makes aiming very hard as it's very senitive.

Also, it would be great if infestor colonies would eventually grow into such sizes it could "deploy" some headcrabs, or something similar. Parasites what infest people, and if the infected can't find a cure, he/she dies, and from his/her body, a new colony will grow.

So a new NPC that gives people an "infection" then instead of dying how about they use my idea from before ( you become a spore and can fly around spraying your infestors everywhere). Your ideas are great though

mutle · 7th July 2011

Exactly. And thanks :D

Enzer · 9th July 2011

So is SBMP still fully reliant on gcombat08? I'm trying to get back into gmod and am starting a spacebuild server with my buds, but we can't seem to find gcombat anywhere.

**LemONPLaNE** · 9th July 2011

Enzer posted:

So is SBMP still fully reliant on gcombat08? I'm trying to get back into gmod and am starting a spacebuild server with my buds, but we can't seem to find gcombat anywhere.

Get PewPew.

**Morcam** · 9th July 2011

Enzer posted:

So is SBMP still fully reliant on gcombat08? I'm trying to get back into gmod and am starting a spacebuild server with my buds, but we can't seem to find gcombat anywhere.

GCombat08 is on garrysmod.org. You can also use PewPew, which is a generally better system, google it.

Oh shit i just got ninja'd.

Enzer · 9th July 2011

LemONPLaNE posted:

Get PewPew.

Yeah, we got PewPew on there, our admin seems to be confused by it, but that saves us a lot of trouble. Thanks.

HonorGuard · 11th July 2011

Holy shit, the submit comment box has spell checker and stuff. :D To keep this on topic, does anyone know why the missile smoke trails for the x4, x8, and x10 launchers turned red? Not terribly important, but I'm just curious when that happened. I kept thinking my tools were messed up since some stuff isn't working at the moment, like the lift tool. Again, not terribly important since it's being re-worked. I'm just curious.

**ContiX** · 11th July 2011

Has the lift tool ever truly worked?

**LemONPLaNE** · 11th July 2011

I find it to be a rather useful tool if you want to make a ship with just the part assembler.

HonorGuard · 12th July 2011

ContiX posted:

Has the lift tool ever truly worked?

It's twitchy to get it to start working, but it's fine after that. Now it won't start at all, but Adv. duped ships/stations that need the tool work for some reason.

Bennyboy2312 · 12th July 2011

Hey guys!

I recently came back to GMod, and this was by far my favorite mod. I couldn't play without it.

Anyways, seeing as it is recent in discussion...
The lift tool?

When I left, it was recently new.
It was buggy, you would have to reset the tool and try a few times to bring up the construction interface. Now it doesn't even do that :/

How long has it been since it was working last, and how long till it would be working again?
I live off this and the part assembler :D

antlion01 · 12th July 2011

It's pretty much at that same stage, reset the tool several times and it eventually works.

Bennyboy2312 · 12th July 2011

Oh trust me, I've tried that atleast 50 consecutive times.
Still no success.

Hysteria100 · 12th July 2011

ContiX posted:

Has the lift tool ever truly worked?

How RUDE.

But no, not really.

**LemONPLaNE** · 12th July 2011

Have you figured out why it needs resetting all the time?

Silly me, of course you have.

HonorGuard · 13th July 2011

I'm gonna be spastic once it's fixed. I have a few new ideas and once the lift tool is back, I'll make my first asymmetrical ship.

CmdrMatthew · 13th July 2011

Idk what you people are talking about, the lift tool has always worked OK for me (other than the popping up for everyone issue). You just need to get the hang of working around what causes it to fail and have a bit of patience to be able to successfully use it.