1. Post #481
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    Spacewolf's Avatar
    January 2006
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    Currently, being a faction leader, I can singlehandedly do anything I desire to do, whether it be farming, mining, or killing off people. I could create an empire being a single person. The point of an RP server is to make things more realistic, and in real life, kings don't do much but rule, and lead people into battle.

    It would be boring to have certain people constrained to what they can and can't do, so I think Levelcraft would fit that perfect medium. People could take time to train at what they want to do, or like to do, and other people hire them or ask them to do those things. That way, people have natural jobs, and aren't told what to do. Plus, it takes a load off the moderators, who would otherwise have to check factions to make sure certain people are or aren't doing certain things.

    Now, if we had this plugin enabled, Joe could be the faction's head miner, and Bob could be a general of war. Tommy could build the TNT cannons and work with explosives, but if he wanted to, could help out Joe by raising his mining level and looking for valuable items.

    What this does is also encourages people to join factions. They aren't good at combat from the start, and would likely die after fighting monsters, so joining a faction with people that are good at fighting would help him a lot.

    Also, wars would be more varied and balanced. Armies could train with bows and arrows, or swords and armor. Jeff can attack from the walls with his arrows, and Jenny, an attacker, could raise her armor level to defend herself. Jenny may not be a good archer, but she can always rely on her friend, Kristen, to back her up with her bow and arrow.

    Everyone has their places and jobs they want to do, and can help out as they see fit. It encourages more teamwork, and discourages people that just singlehandedly do what they please, all alone. People that put more time into their work can be better at it, not just the person with the most resources.


    There is one problem, however. This plugin doesn't support a total level cap, so anyone could hypothetically level themselves up to 100 in each skill. In an ideal world, we could set it so everyone has 400 levels, and can only level up to that amount. If they would wish to take up another skill, they could deduct levels from skills.

    The one way to counter this is adjusting the level curve so it gets extremely hard to earn levels above 60. This means you have to spend extra time getting that level up to 100, time you could spend on other skills.
    That sounds excellent. I'll have to look at the mod more, though.

    Edited:

    "Random chance to yield Coca Beans from crops the higher level you are"

    Aww, what the fuck? I was looking forward to being the only one with lots of cookies :C
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  2. Post #482
    I make awesome maps that never see the light of day
    oskutin's Avatar
    January 2007
    6,003 Posts
    We should configure it so, that there's basic skill, that everyone can make basic items, and mine everything except obsidian and diamonds and you should also be able wear every armor.
    Also everyone should be able to place every block.

    Edited:

    I'll want to configure that mod, if we're going to use that.

    Edited:

    Also we should grant some levels to veteran and active players.
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  3. Post #483
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    Spacewolf's Avatar
    January 2006
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    We should configure it so, that there's basic skill, that everyone can make basic items, and mine everything except obsidian and diamonds and you should also be able wear every armor.
    Also everyone should be able to place every block.

    Edited:

    I'll want to configure that mod, if we're going to use that.

    Edited:

    Also we should grant some levels to veteran and active players.
    I would kinda like having a decent woodcutting and excavating level considering that's about all I do.
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  4. Post #484
    Chezhead's Avatar
    December 2009
    7,234 Posts
    We should configure it so, that there's basic skill, that everyone can make basic items, and mine everything except obsidian and diamonds and you should also be able wear every armor.
    Everyone should be able to place any block, but I think that we should keep the mining and such as it is. That way people can level up and actually create jobs. Think about it: If you allow anyone to mine anything but diamond, anyone that would do any mining in the first place would be able to get the diamond. Making it harder to do these things makes it a fun experience, where people have jobs they can do. Armor is something that would be useful, so trained combatants would be more useful in wars than non-trained. Mercs could be created, then.




    Also we should grant some levels to veteran and active players.
    Maybe we could run a number generator at a random time during the day, and anyone on the server got a level boost in a skill they wanted if the number was a 1 out of 8? Or maybe dungeons have secret words in them that can be told to admins in exchange for boosts?

    Edited:

    Now we just need to wait for Dragory to actually answer us. What is he so busy with?
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  5. Post #485
    I make awesome maps that never see the light of day
    oskutin's Avatar
    January 2007
    6,003 Posts
    Sleeping, i guess.
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  6. Post #486
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    January 2006
    6,948 Posts

    Maybe we could run a number generator at a random time during the day, and anyone on the server got a level boost in a skill they wanted if the number was a 1 out of 8? Or maybe dungeons have secret words in them that can be told to admins in exchange for boosts?
    Err, why do this exactly?
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  7. Post #487
    I make awesome maps that never see the light of day
    oskutin's Avatar
    January 2007
    6,003 Posts
    I'll think that leveling system should be realistic.
    That you can wear every item/tool but higher level give's you more effinency.
    And you can mine stone,sandstone,iron,coal with basic skill, and levels give more speed/durability and the rest of the block types.
    Also gaining levels should be hard at the beging, like:

    This combined to loose job/profession/class rule would boost our economics.
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  8. Post #488
    Chezhead's Avatar
    December 2009
    7,234 Posts
    I'll think that leveling system should be realistic.
    That you can wear every item/tool but higher level give's you more effinency.
    And you can mine stone,sandstone,iron,coal with basic skill, and levels give more speed/durability and the rest of the block types.
    Also gaining levels should be hard at the beging, like:
    If it was hard at the beginning, wouldn't it be more like this?



    This means it would be hard to get to level 25, pretty easy 25-50, and very hard to get from 50-100.
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  9. Post #489
    asrele's Avatar
    July 2010
    465 Posts
    White-list Aspo78 please
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  10. Post #490
    I make awesome maps that never see the light of day
    oskutin's Avatar
    January 2007
    6,003 Posts
    We should do a vote about that leveling mod
    Just in case.


    Also Chez you could whitelist?
    Too tired to go to the server.
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  11. Post #491
    I think it should have a Y(x) = mx form.
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  12. Post #492
    shatteredwindow's Boy Toy
    cr2142's Avatar
    April 2010
    3,319 Posts
    Can I be white listed on the server please?


    My ingame name is cr2142
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  13. Post #493
    Chezhead's Avatar
    December 2009
    7,234 Posts
    White-list Aspo78 please
    Make sure your friend reads the rules, okay?
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  14. Post #494
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    June 2007
    7,580 Posts
    Instead of adding that levels mod maybe we could wait for 1.8? It would probably be a lot more stable persay than a Bukkit ( :O ) addon, along with being easier to use (GUI>Text prompt in my book). Plus the system where you lose your XP on death would create more tension and risk vs. reward in wars, or with certain highwaymen on the server, a risk of losing more than just unstashed loot if robbing the wrong person.
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  15. Post #495
    Except losing all your xp on death would be fucking horrible and no one would risk anything, making everybody accumulate more, making everyone less risk-taking and sadder when they do die.
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  16. Post #496
    RainbowPillows's Avatar
    June 2011
    487 Posts
    Snip, not enough dedication to care about factions and shit.
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  17. Post #497
    Mr Shadyface's Avatar
    July 2010
    3,737 Posts
    I would like to register a faction.

    Chez said no to Kickassia, as well as The Kingdom of Kickassia, and Kickarsia.

    So, in a huge tribute to D&D, I would like to register the faction name as

    The Wayward Lobsters.


    Mombasa (also FP name)

    Asrele (also FP name)

    Luley (also FP name)

    Apcrag (?)

    Tbfundy (?)

    (there are a few more who want to join but I'm not going to just invite anyone.)

    I'm not sure about there FP names. Quote this if you are on the list.
    Put me down for a maybe, depending on how set you are on that name.

    Lobsters suck.
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  18. Post #498
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    December 2008
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    Except losing all your xp on death would be fucking horrible and no one would risk anything, making everybody accumulate more, making everyone less risk-taking and sadder when they do die.
    Except that would make the glitchy shitmobs of Minecraft even more retarded

    10 creepers spawning infront of you is annoying enough right now
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  19. Post #499
    Chezhead's Avatar
    December 2009
    7,234 Posts
    I would like to register a faction.

    Chez said no to Kickassia, as well as The Kingdom of Kickassia, and Kickarsia.

    So, in a huge tribute to D&D, I would like to register the faction name as

    The Wayward Lobsters.


    Mombasa (also FP name)

    Asrele (also FP name)

    Luley (also FP name)

    Apcrag (?)

    Tbfundy (?)

    (there are a few more who want to join but I'm not going to just invite anyone.)

    I'm not sure about there FP names. Quote this if you are on the list.
    I'll see if it fits as a faction, but when tobba2 gets here, I can do it.

    This requires a crazy amount of commands, as I need to give someone else administer rights to the guild, leave the faction, make a new faction, invite the leader to the faction, admin the leader of the faction, leave the faction, join my faction again, and gain admin rights to it.

    Edited:

    Instead of adding that levels mod maybe we could wait for 1.8? It would probably be a lot more stable persay than a Bukkit ( :O ) addon, along with being easier to use (GUI>Text prompt in my book). Plus the system where you lose your XP on death would create more tension and risk vs. reward in wars, or with certain highwaymen on the server, a risk of losing more than just unstashed loot if robbing the wrong person.
    There's been many times where I have fallen through the bottom of the world due to glitches, and I'm not going to lose all my XP to a fluke.
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  20. Post #500
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    January 2006
    6,948 Posts
    I'd like to welcome MCPilgrim and Chicken Chaser, Ravencrest's two new guardsmen.

    Edited:

    Put me in the OP Chez :(
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  21. Post #501
    Chezhead's Avatar
    December 2009
    7,234 Posts
    I'd like to welcome MCPilgrim and Chicken Chaser, Ravencrest's two new guardsmen.

    Edited:

    Put me in the OP Chez :(
    Post the thing here again, as I don't feel like digging through pages to find it.
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  22. Post #502
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    January 2006
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    Ravencrest



    Ravencrest is a forest town found on the road to Ironhelm. It is run in a council sort of way; although I built it, I look to the citizens for advice and input regarding building and other suggestions. Being in a forest, we build entirely out of wood.

    To find Ravencrest, take the road towards Ironhelm from spawn. It's about half way down the road, you can't miss it.

    Resources

    Currently, most if not all our residents are not miners. We rely primarily on trade to get what we need, and sometimes favor wood over iron as a currency. We mostly do not share what we acquire through trade, although items gained from the bounty of the surrounding nature are shared amongst the townsmen.

    Structure

    We work with a council type government. Each resident has a say in what we do or don't do, and meetings in our town hall decide on whether or not to carry out changes to the town.

    Economy

    We do not have a currency, as we are not part of any kingdom. Many of us value wood highly as it is used in all our construction, but we accept almost anything we need, be it iron, gold, diamond, or other misc items.

    Our town produces much food, and so bread, fish, pork, stew, sugar, eggs, milk, wheat, cake, and even cookies are plentiful in the trading post.

    Facilities

    Our town has several buildings to cater to your needs. We have:

    A public forge
    A private farm
    A library
    A town hall
    An inn
    A guards quarters
    A trading post
    Several houses.

    Residents

    Current residents are:

    Spacewolf78, our leader.

    Doctor_Cuddles, our primary farmer.

    DrPompo, leader of the arena.

    ThePortalMaster, a member of IronHelm.

    Chicken_Chaser, a guardsman.

    MCPilgrim, a guardsman.

    Jobs

    Guardsman: You get a set of armor and weapons and watch over the town at night or in times of high alert. You aren't expected to stand around town doing nothing, however, if you get bored of guarding, you can do other things in town at night, but while on duty, stay in town in case you are needed.

    Farmer: Just what it sounds like. This is basically a side job, just tend the farm when it needs to be.

    Hunter: Hunt mobs during the day and night. Day meaning sheer sheep, kill pigs and cows, etc, night, collect gunpowder and other mob drops.

    Miner: Of course we'll have need of miners, but this also will be a side job. We will only send you to mine if we are in dire need of something, but I don't want ten miners bringing the town tons of diamond because that's not what the town is meant to be.

    Lumberjack: Also a side job, but more work. Just what it sounds, cut trees outside of the town area.

    Rules

    Aside from the basic no killing or stealing from our residents and guests, we have a few rules.

    -Do not build or otherwise alter the town without consulting Spacewolf78 first.
    -Under no circumstances should you cut down the trees close to the town. If you need wood, seek it elsewhere.
    -Construction should fit our building style, use wood. If you are unsure about your building, ask Spacewolf.
    -Be friendly to one another. If someone needs a piece of bread, let them have some.
    -If you have a job, do it. If you'd like to do something else, you can be assigned a new position, but if you're a chef, don't go cutting down trees.
    -We are a peaceful town. Do not instigate fights with other residents, and especially not members of other factions.

    How to Join

    Buying a house, getting a job, and proving you're trustworthy are all it takes to join Ravencrest.

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  23. Post #503
    Chezhead's Avatar
    December 2009
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    Done
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  24. Post #504
    Gold Member
    Spacewolf's Avatar
    January 2006
    6,948 Posts
    :D
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  25. Post #505
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    October 2007
    6,710 Posts
    So I was in the nether...



    Exploring



    What.



    Cool I can go inside.



    Going up and up and up...



    What the shit.




    Yes I found a tower made up entirely of bedrock that leads ABOVE the nether.
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  26. Post #506
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    December 2008
    5,573 Posts
    I actually found it too

    Chez made it for when people get glitched ontop of the nether (Blame the shitty unstucking feature)
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  27. Post #507
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    October 2007
    6,710 Posts
    I actually found it too

    Chez made it for when people get glitched ontop of the nether (Blame the shitty unstucking feature)
    Oh.
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  28. Post #508
    I ROLL THE NICKELS
    CodeMonkey3's Avatar
    October 2008
    16,557 Posts
    May I get white list?

    Username is Wordsworth
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  29. Post #509
    asrele's Avatar
    July 2010
    465 Posts
    Shout out to DokuCraft!!
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  30. Post #510
    Dolton's Avatar
    December 2009
    1,150 Posts
    Okay this is bullshit. First of all I wasn't able to backstab Mongolian because you're not allowd to attack someone if they're in their own faction but they can attack you. I had to logoff so he built a box around me so I'll be trapped until he can come back and kill me. That has to be against the rules somehow seeing as I can't get out because I can't break blocks inside his faction.
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  31. Post #511

    May 2010
    290 Posts
    Okay this is bullshit. First of all I wasn't able to backstab Mongolian because you're not allowd to attack someone if they're in their own faction but they can attack you. I had to logoff so he built a box around me so I'll be trapped until he can come back and kill me. That has to be against the rules somehow seeing as I can't get out because I can't break blocks inside his faction.
    You logged off to avoid being killed, everytime we try to kill you, you log out immediately.

    You also left my faction and then started attacking me. You missed all your attacks and logged off immediately,
    We built a perimeter around you to contain you, we intend to kill you for betraying us.
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  32. Post #512
    Dolton's Avatar
    December 2009
    1,150 Posts
    You logged off to avoid being killed, everytime we try to kill you, you log out immediately.

    You also left my faction and then started attacking me. You missed all your attacks and logged off immediately,
    We built a perimeter around you to contain you, we intend to kill you for betraying us.
    Okay, I didn't miss. I hit you 11 times and got 11 messages saying "You cannot attack Mongolian_Beef while he is inside his own faction" I logged out because yo can hurt me but I can't do jack shit to you.

    Also you just boxed me in an area with pressure plates and dispensers with arrows.

    Edit: Also Skaal will shortly have very few members, trust me. There is a very useful /tell command for plotting.
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  33. Post #513

    May 2010
    290 Posts
    Okay, I didn't miss. I hit you 11 times and got 11 messages saying "You cannot attack Mongolian_Beef while he is inside his own faction" I logged out because yo can hurt me but I can't do jack shit to you.

    Also you just boxed me in an area with pressure plates and dispensers with arrows.

    Edit: Also Skaal will shortly have very few members, trust me. There is a very useful /tell command for plotting.
    Meh, it's expected that you are doing alot of /tell.
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  34. Post #514
    Mr. Bleak's Avatar
    March 2011
    4,112 Posts
    Looking for an active server!

    Could you whitelist me please? IGN is Fycix.
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  35. Post #515
    RainbowPillows's Avatar
    June 2011
    487 Posts
    You logged off to avoid being killed, everytime we try to kill you, you log out immediately.

    You also left my faction and then started attacking me. You missed all your attacks and logged off immediately,
    We built a perimeter around you to contain you, we intend to kill you for betraying us.
    ABSOLUTE bullshit. Skaals glorious leader of population no one active now is building spawn cages for cheap kills? This is a hefty dose of atrocious fail.
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  36. Post #516

    May 2010
    290 Posts
    We've settled the matter peacefully now.

    We've returned All his requested Items, gave his books back, bookshelves, an additional 7 Stacks of books we didn't need,
    20 Diamonds he dropped when he died, a diamond Pickaxe and some iron.
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  37. Post #517
    Mombasa's Avatar
    July 2008
    729 Posts
    We definitely need a new faction mod, or at least a major edit of the current one. This mod is just as annoying as it was way back when venn had a server.

    Also, MyWolf, Showcase, Cenotaph, and Craftbook are worth looking at...
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  38. Post #518
    Gold Member
    tehfrog's Avatar
    July 2007
    3,469 Posts
    whitelist please?
    same name, tehfrog

    this server looks awesome
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  39. Post #519
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    tyanet's Avatar
    June 2007
    3,108 Posts
    Whitelist please.
    In game name is Tyanet (Shocker, eh?)
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  40. Post #520
    RainbowPillows's Avatar
    June 2011
    487 Posts
    Okay, I didn't miss. I hit you 11 times and got 11 messages saying "You cannot attack Mongolian_Beef while he is inside his own faction" I logged out because yo can hurt me but I can't do jack shit to you.

    Also you just boxed me in an area with pressure plates and dispensers with arrows.

    Edit: Also Skaal will shortly have very few members, trust me. There is a very useful /tell command for plotting.

    We've settled the matter peacefully now.

    We've returned All his requested Items, gave his books back, bookshelves, an additional 7 Stacks of books we didn't need,
    20 Diamonds he dropped when he died, a diamond Pickaxe and some iron.
    Those diamonds were acquired illegally,




    They build a cage around him so that when they spawned they could rob him because they were upset over a totally legal assassination attempt.

    bull. shit.



    and

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