1. Post #1
    Septimas's Avatar
    July 2007
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    Okay, im getting my car soon from my parents, and it will be a 2003 grand cherokee. I plan on getting 2 15's, in a ported box, and setting it up in the back.

    There are 2 speakers on the dash, 1 on each door panel.

    Price isnt a big issue, as im coming into money semi easily, so can anyone reccomend the specifics, of what amp, subs, and what i should do with the door speakers?? I was thinking of putting tweeters on the dash, but im confused past there concerning the doors.


    Thanks FP!

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    only 15's?

    Edited:

    how about a couple 22's

    http://shop.mtx.com/p/l_232/MTX_Audi...r/listing.html

    Edited:

    you said money isnt an issue you big baller you
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    The dash speakers on that year GC are tweeters.

  4. Post #4
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    only 15's?

    Edited:

    how about a couple 22's

    http://shop.mtx.com/p/l_232/MTX_Audi...r/listing.html

    Edited:

    you said money isnt an issue you big baller you
    I definitely didnt mean to come off as as mug cock, but i meant that within a reasonable price, i can go higher quality with the price. Dropping 11k on subs isn't really smart..

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    What are you trying to achieve? Loud? Clear? Do you like it bassier? Shrill high? Smooth highs?Are you using the factory headunit? Planning on replacing it?

    Finally, an approx budget?

    Let me know and I'll show you the best of the best bud.

  6. Post #6
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    his parents are buying him a jeep so he can go to the mall.

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    lol conker

    you and your mall crawler hatred
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  8. Post #8
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    Aiming for a loud fucking bass system, but with good sound to where you can hear the song fine also.

    Edited:

    price, id say under 1.5k for the best options i can get.

    Edited:

    fuckkk im baked
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    get one of those enclosures with a weed compartment

    theyll never check there
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    Alright, here we go, it's time to play with the big boys here:

    Bass Amp:

    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/ampli...00d-sale.html: sundown 3000 - $500
    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/ampli...like-new.html: sundown 2500 - $550

    explanation: These are two massive amps that will properly power the subs that are coming up.. not matched perfectly, because there's so many options, they're a couple ballpark estimates.. basically figured on about $500 for a good amp that does about 2-2.5k watts rms.
    Sub/s

    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwo...y-loaded.html: BTL - $580
    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwo...io-12w7s.html: W7s - $550
    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwo...hade-v2s.html: sundown nightshades - $500

    explanation: Here's 3 great sub choices. The Sundown and the FI BTL are both serious business subs. They take 2k rms or more all day. These will, seriously, blow you away. In the right box you'll be the loudest in your town. The pair of W7s is a safe retreat if you like hiding behind brand names. As far as "well known" sub companies go, JL's W7 are among the loudest.. and sound the best, too.

    Headunit:
    you choose.... something you like in your budget with 3 pairs of RCA outputs will suffice. I like the Kenwood Bt945 from last year or Kenwood BT948 from this year. Shop around.

    speakers

    http://www.crutchfield.com/s_500SPR6...C.html?tp=106: Type R - 280
    http://www.crutchfield.com/s_107MM65...1.html?tp=106: Polk - 230

    Explanation: These two pairs here are beasts. Over 100 watts rms power handling is going to make a loud loud speaker. They're component sets, which always have a better sound than coaxials... Either of these would be a good choice if you want the music up front loud

    2/4 channel amp


    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/ampli...40-4-ohm.html: alphasonik 4ch - $300

    http://cgi.ebay.com/KICKER-ZX350-2-2...tem4cf8b1fac5: kicker 2 ch - $120

    explanation: If you want the music loud you'll need enough power to push those beefy speakers.. These are two good choices. The alphasonik is a massive 4 channel amp that will have lots of headroom even pushing the Type R speakers. It's a little overkill, but a quality piece. Plus then you have 2 channels to amp the rear speakers if you so chose.
    The kicker would be a good amp to amp just the front.. and keep costs down. It'll make those fronts scream at you, then just use the headunit to power the rears, which don't matter anyways.


    Sign up on caraudio.com and get to surfing the classifieds. There's TONS of deals to be had to put together a really, really, nice system for 1.5k. Everything I have here adds up to roughly 1.5k for you... pick and choose. You can't go wrong for subs with Digital Designs, Incriminator Audio, Fi, Sundown, or even the custom build ones that are beasts.
    Amps for the sub look out for Sundown, American Amps.. I forget others.
    For about 1k you'll get a great pair and be pushing 2 - 2.5k watts rms like I said. It will blow you away.

    Then you'll have 500 to play with for a headunit, front speakers, and amp for those front speakers, etc.

    If you open it up to 2k you'll be even more set because you'll have a few more options.. can get a top of the line headunit, not have to skimp on a speaker amp, etc.

    Let me know what looks good, any questions, etc. It's hard to say "here buy this" since everything good is used and constantly being put for sale and bought up.. so you need to catch the deals when they happen. I got my 1.4k rms amp for $200, and a pair of Kicker L7's for $110..... which is loud... but those subs and stuff I posted are in a whole different league.

    Keep me posted.
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    July 2007
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    Alright, here we go, it's time to play with the big boys here:

    Bass Amp:

    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/ampli...00d-sale.html: sundown 3000 - $500
    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/ampli...like-new.html: sundown 2500 - $550

    explanation: These are two massive amps that will properly power the subs that are coming up.. not matched perfectly, because there's so many options, they're a couple ballpark estimates.. basically figured on about $500 for a good amp that does about 2-2.5k watts rms.
    Sub/s

    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwo...y-loaded.html: BTL - $580
    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwo...io-12w7s.html: W7s - $550
    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwo...hade-v2s.html: sundown nightshades - $500

    explanation: Here's 3 great sub choices. The Sundown and the FI BTL are both serious business subs. They take 2k rms or more all day. These will, seriously, blow you away. In the right box you'll be the loudest in your town. The pair of W7s is a safe retreat if you like hiding behind brand names. As far as "well known" sub companies go, JL's W7 are among the loudest.. and sound the best, too.

    Headunit:
    you choose.... something you like in your budget with 3 pairs of RCA outputs will suffice. I like the Kenwood Bt945 from last year or Kenwood BT948 from this year. Shop around.

    speakers

    http://www.crutchfield.com/s_500SPR6...C.html?tp=106: Type R - 280
    http://www.crutchfield.com/s_107MM65...1.html?tp=106: Polk - 230

    Explanation: These two pairs here are beasts. Over 100 watts rms power handling is going to make a loud loud speaker. They're component sets, which always have a better sound than coaxials... Either of these would be a good choice if you want the music up front loud

    2/4 channel amp


    http://www.caraudio.com/forums/ampli...40-4-ohm.html: alphasonik 4ch - $300

    http://cgi.ebay.com/KICKER-ZX350-2-2...tem4cf8b1fac5: kicker 2 ch - $120

    explanation: If you want the music loud you'll need enough power to push those beefy speakers.. These are two good choices. The alphasonik is a massive 4 channel amp that will have lots of headroom even pushing the Type R speakers. It's a little overkill, but a quality piece. Plus then you have 2 channels to amp the rear speakers if you so chose.
    The kicker would be a good amp to amp just the front.. and keep costs down. It'll make those fronts scream at you, then just use the headunit to power the rears, which don't matter anyways.


    Sign up on caraudio.com and get to surfing the classifieds. There's TONS of deals to be had to put together a really, really, nice system for 1.5k. Everything I have here adds up to roughly 1.5k for you... pick and choose. You can't go wrong for subs with Digital Designs, Incriminator Audio, Fi, Sundown, or even the custom build ones that are beasts.
    Amps for the sub look out for Sundown, American Amps.. I forget others.
    For about 1k you'll get a great pair and be pushing 2 - 2.5k watts rms like I said. It will blow you away.

    Then you'll have 500 to play with for a headunit, front speakers, and amp for those front speakers, etc.

    If you open it up to 2k you'll be even more set because you'll have a few more options.. can get a top of the line headunit, not have to skimp on a speaker amp, etc.

    Let me know what looks good, any questions, etc. It's hard to say "here buy this" since everything good is used and constantly being put for sale and bought up.. so you need to catch the deals when they happen. I got my 1.4k rms amp for $200, and a pair of Kicker L7's for $110..... which is loud... but those subs and stuff I posted are in a whole different league.

    Keep me posted.

    I fucking love you, thanks man, this really does help me alot.

  12. Post #12
    c0nk3r's Avatar
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    bro get one of those 600$ headunits that has the fold out screen, they are hella cool.

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    No problem man, this is the kind of thing I'm into, too. Let me know when you find some deals n stuff. If you get one of those big amps or a big subs I'll help you find the perfect match of amp/sub for it if you'd like.
    Have you done audio installs before? I can walk you through that, too, if you'd like.

  14. Post #14
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    No problem man, this is the kind of thing I'm into, too. Let me know when you find some deals n stuff. If you get one of those big amps or a big subs I'll help you find the perfect match of amp/sub for it if you'd like.
    Have you done audio installs before? I can walk you through that, too, if you'd like.
    Im afraid i have no experience with audio installs:(

    I was hoping to find a place i could just throw 25$ and have them set it up, im not sure on the price of it to get doen, or difficulty in setting up a whole new system

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    You certainly won't find a "place" to do it for that price. You'd be looking for a friend or some sort of hookup for a price like that.

    It's not difficult, just takes time to run the wires properly. The most important thing is just clean wiring... running your power wire through the firewall properly, and routing it under one side of the side trimmings of the cab.. then the RCAs down the other side of the cab under the trimmings. Finding a strong ground spot for the amps is just a matter of finding a piece of metal that's part of the body you can scrape down and weld a stud to or put some screws into.
    Putting in the headunit.. simple, just a matter of popping off the surround around the radio and wiring the radio's new harness to a harness meant for the jeep. Plugs right in, and fits right in with the proper dash kit, too.
    Getting signal from your 2 or 4 channel amp to the speakers is pretty simply, just run speaker wire from the amp up to the radio along your RCAs... the cut the wires from the new radio to the harness you wired in, cap off the radio's speaker wires, and connect the wires from the amp to the harness's wires that go to the vehicle.

    Just lots of time running wires and making connections pretty much. Post lots of pics and I/everyone else can tell you what's good, what's bad, what to do next, etc.

    Tuning it can be fun, then... it may almost be worth it to take it in to a stereo shop/ or Best Buy and give them that $25 to walk you through the settings on the amps, so it all sounds good/ is balanced right.... if you do the install yourself, don't take it in until you let us look it over though. You don't want to take in a cobble job system that they only laugh at try to tell you that you need to let them resintall everything.

  16. Post #16
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    How much would it roughly cost to get a place to install all the speakers, subs, amps, etc?

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    You can assume on about...

    $70 front speakers
    $100 for the 4 channel amp
    $50 radio
    $30ish for the sub amp

    Worth it to learn it ;)

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    You can assume on about...

    $70 front speakers
    $100 for the 4 channel amp
    $50 radio
    $30ish for the sub amp

    Worth it to learn it ;)

    mhmmm;)

    Well im saving my money, so im hoping to just splurge one day, and buy all the components i need from the site you listed up there.

    Do the items usually have a warranty, or some type of insurance, so if they broke or i got in a wreck, iwouldnt be fucked?

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    Nope, everything on caraudio.com is 2nd hand used.. like craigslist but it isn't full of shady pricks.

    The ones from cruthfield do have a warranty however. If you'd like everything to have a warranty we're going to have to rework the list with slightly less cool things. :P

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    haha its all good man, im fine with getting them used. Just hoping that they are in good shape and i dont get jipped!

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    That site has a feedback section, a lot of fellows who are selling stuff sell a lot of stuff and have user reviews, check those out before you buy if you wish. So far I'm like 3/3 or 4/4 (can't remember) on buying stuff from there and getting a good deal.

  22. Post #22
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    Stealing your thread brah.

    So like My two front speakers are fucked, i would replace them with new coaxial speakers, right?

    I already have an amp, 2 subs, and a new headunit picked, now i need some gudder car speakers

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstempl...c=abcat0300000
    alpine cos alpine is bro.

    Edited:

    actually, also how do i know what amp to get

  23. Post #23
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    Indeed, slap in a set of coax's for great justice. This year's Type S's are really nice, can't go wrong with them!

    No need to amp them, unless you want to really crank it up.

    As for knowing what amp to get for the subs.. figure out your ohm load, then that will help you pick the amp, based on RMS watts and ohm load. If ya need help post up your subs.

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    Yes, Type Rs are a solid sub. You'd want an amp that does 1200rms @ 2 ohms x1, or 600 rms @ 4ohms x 2 to power them!
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  26. Post #26
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    welp i understood that up intill the part where i have no idea what the fuck you just said

    find me an amp brah ;_;

    <3

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    This would come close to powering it:
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Alpine+-...&skuId=1807297

    Otherwise this would work, too.. PA is always a little over rated in the power department:
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Power+Ac...&skuId=9026911
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    This would come close to powering it:
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Alpine+-...&skuId=1807297

    Otherwise this would work, too.. PA is always a little over rated in the power department:
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Power+Ac...&skuId=9026911
    thanks for the help but i may be in need of some new wheels now :/

    Realized there was a Buick GN for sale near me, :>

  29. Post #29
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    Sheeet, that's a slick car for sure.

  30. Post #30
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    yeah then remembered i dont have a car so i cant drive out to look at it

  31. Post #31
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    If you have an Audio Express in your area, they'll install all of your stereo system for a dollar if you buy over a hundred dollars worth of system, which I'm guessing you will be FAR north of.
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