[Megafan]

If they couldn't somehow decipher the meaning of the protests with their basic reading comprehension, then there is a much larger problem here.

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Lankist posted:

No one is safe right now.

If you wanna pick a fight spain come at me bro

i will throw down

[-nesto-]

No, Mega and Uber are right. No one that I've seen here yet is proRape. The ones that aren't riding lankists dick have a valid point about how the general mass would perceive a demonstration like this and completely miss the issue at hand. Its been pages of bickering and miss communications.

[Lambeth]

Lankist posted:

No one is safe right now.

Hey lankist I never liked your mass effect mspaint ripoff

[Lankist]

-nesto- posted:

No, Mega and Uber are right. No one that I've seen here yet is proRape. The ones that aren't riding lankists dick have a valid point about how the general mass would perceive a demonstration like this and completely miss the issue at hand. Its been pages of bickering and miss communications.

So you didn't read the sixth fucking line of the article then

the line that explains exactly the fuck what is happening

With the amount of posts you have read and responded to in this thread, you could have just fucking read the first quarter of the goddamn article. The message is right fucking there. The only miscommunication is between the part of your brain that thinks stupid shit and the part of your brain that says "no dont say this stupid shit."

[Billiam]

-nesto- posted:

No, Mega and Uber are right. No one that I've seen here yet is proRape. The ones that aren't riding lankists dick have a valid point about how the general mass would perceive a demonstration like this and completely miss the issue at hand. Its been pages of bickering and miss communications.

I like how you put up no real argument paired with an ad hominem and then call peeps out for bickering.

[MegaChalupa]

Lankist posted:

FYI the sixth line of the article says exactly why they are doing these protests.

If you didn't make it that far: their message isn't the problem, your illiteracy is.

The first SlutWalk protestors took to the streets of Toronto on April 3, roughly two months after Toronto Police officer Michael Sanguinetti suggested “women should avoid dressing like sluts in order not to be victimized”.

How does that illustrate the idea that the majority of rape is going unreported or unpunished?

[Uber|nooB]

Lankist posted:

FYI the sixth line of the article says exactly why they are doing these protests.

If you didn't make it that far: their message isn't the problem, your illiteracy is.

i'm aware, but the majority of people are either a bit dumb and skim through news articles or get their news from their friends who can't read properly for some reason

i don't know why this is that way but that's mostly what i've seen so far

i'm not saying i'm against the protests or something, i'm just saying that people should be less ADD when reading the news

or something like that

[MisterMooth]

-nesto- posted:

Its been pages of bickering and miss communications.

where do you think that's coming from when the meaning of the walk is sitting right there in the fucking article

[-nesto-]

Lankist posted:

So you didn't read the sixth fucking line of the article then

the line that explains exactly the fuck what is happening

No, you dont read. I keep repeating myself, I get why they are doing it. How they are getting across is what the issue was. Good job.

[Lankist]

MegaChalupa posted:

How does that illustrate the idea that the majority of rape is going unreported or unpunished?

Uhh, the police blamed the victim.

The protest is about not blaming the victim.

I'm sorry do I need to type this out in caveman words for you to understand?

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Uber|nooB posted:

i'm aware, but the majority of people are either a bit dumb and skim through news articles or get their news from their friends who can't read properly for some reason

That's their problem. You don't criticize the rape victims because people on Facepunch have no idea how to read an article before commenting on it.

[Uber|nooB]

also i guess what i also mean is that the primary message of the protests could have been more direct than it is, so it reached out to the apparently illiterate majority more

[MisterMooth]

Uber|nooB posted:

also i guess what i also mean is that the primary message of the protests could have been more direct than it is, so it reached out to the apparently illiterate majority more

or maybe people can just stop being retarded

[Uber|nooB]

"women should be able to dress how they want" is more direct than "slut should not be a derogatory term (because women should be able to dress how they want)"

[MegaChalupa]

Lankist posted:

Uhh, the police blamed the victim.

The protest is about not blaming the victim.

And like I said, the way the protests are being reported on fails to get that idea across. They're putting far too much emphasis on that one statement to the point where it looks like the only thing the protest is trying to accomplish is disprove the validity of that one statement.

[Lankist]

MegaChalupa posted:

And like I said, the way the protests are being reported on fails to get that idea across. They're putting far too much emphasis on that one statement to the point where it looks like the only thing the protest is trying to accomplish is disprove the validity of that one statement.

The purpose of SlutWalk, Solis said, is to invigorate the debate that will bring sexual respect for women and usher in the understanding that sex sells because it is a basic human experience that should be embraced, not abused.

18-year-old FSU student, SlutWalk Tampa speaker and rape survivor Teagan Alexander said she goes to clubs, likes to go out and likes to look pretty.

Alexander explained she was a victim of sexual assault roughly 10 months before she posted her YouTube video entitled “My Dress is NOT A yes!” on June 22. “Just because I like to wear a tight black dress, it’s not an invitation to have sex with me,” Alexander said in the video.

seems pretty god damn clear

[Megafan]

-nesto- posted:

No, Mega and Uber are right. No one that I've seen here yet is proRape. The ones that aren't riding lankists dick have a valid point about how the general mass would perceive a demonstration like this and completely miss the issue at hand. Its been pages of bickering and miss communications.

"Riding Lankist's dick"? I would have the same god damn position with or without his opinion, so don't try to act above the fray, that's utter bullshit.

[SigmaLambda]

Uber|nooB posted:

"women should be able to dress how they want" is more direct than "slut should not be a derogatory term (because women should be able to dress how they want)"

cool. let's literally not have any creativity in anything anywhere in the name of marginally increasing the "understandability" of something. let's just assume that everyone in the country is a child incapable of understanding anything except the most basic, laconically expressed concepts

[MegaChalupa]

Lankist posted:

seems pretty god damn clear

All that says is that raping a person because they dress provocatively isn't justified.

[thisispain]

-nesto- posted:

The ones that aren't riding lankists dick

don't knock it till you've tried it

[Mlisen14]

-nesto- posted:

No, Mega and Uber are right. No one that I've seen here yet is proRape. The ones that aren't riding lankists dick have a valid point about how the general mass would perceive a demonstration like this and completely miss the issue at hand. Its been pages of bickering and miss communications.

General mass, like the people on the street?

“I love that fact that people are talking about things like this that have never talked about this before. I love that somebody may have saw it in the newspaper or on TV, and they went home and said at dinner, ‘Oh my God, did you hear about that SlutWalk? And they’re talking about it.”

Their message is pretty clear and people are going home to talk about it. How is what they are doing ineffective?

[Last or First]

Uber|nooB posted:

also i guess what i also mean is that the primary message of the protests could have been more direct than it is, so it reached out to the apparently illiterate majority more

Uber|nooB posted:

"women should be able to dress how they want" is more direct than "slut should not be a derogatory term (because women should be able to dress how they want)"

GRAAAAGH
DID YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE FUCKING IMAGES
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE FUCKING SAYING

[SigmaLambda]

MegaChalupa posted:

And like I said, the way the protests are being reported on fails to get that idea across.

you've yet to prove this dude.

[Lankist]

MegaChalupa posted:

All that says is that raping a person because they dress provocatively isn't justified.

Yeah.

And that's the entire god damn point.

What the fuck is wrong with you, really?

Have I been arguing with an invalid?

Because if you have dyslexia or something I'm sorry for giving you shit about being illiterate.

[MisterMooth]

MegaChalupa posted:

All that says is that raping a person because they dress provocatively isn't justified.

wow man did you figure that out all on your own

[Alex_DeLarge]

All I can say is, I don't like women who get drunk off their ass at parties and clubs and I certainly do not like women that reveal too much skin so honestly I don't give a shit. But to the ladies, stop dressing like fucking prostitutes.


Also if I can see your ass, it makes you a fucking whore. Stop pretending it doesn't.

[Uber|nooB]

you guys are like some sort of rabid badgers on speed

[Lankist]

Alex_DeLarge posted:

All I can say is, I don't like women who get drunk off their ass at parties and clubs and I certainly do not like women that reveal too much skin so honestly I don't give a shit. But to the ladies, stop dressing like fucking prostitutes.

Hey look who showed up, the misogynist

WHAT A SURPRISE

[MegaChalupa]

Lankist posted:

Yeah.

And that's the entire god damn point.

What the fuck is wrong with you, really?

Have I been arguing with an invalid?

Because if you have dyslexia or something I'm sorry for giving you shit about being illiterate.

Okay, now how does your average person get from "raping a woman because she dresses like a slut isn't justifiable" to "the majority of rapist go unpunished and the majority of rape victims fail to report the crime to police"?

[Lankist]

Uber|nooB posted:

you guys are like some sort of rabid badgers on speed

That's cool you can leave now.

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MegaChalupa posted:

Okay, now how does your average person get from "raping a woman because she dresses like a slut isn't justifiable" to "the majority of rapist go unpunished and the majority of rape victims fail to report the crime to police"?

The latter is common knowledge. The prior is in direct response to the police blaming the victim, creating an environment in which rape victims do not report the crime because they feel as though they did something wrong.

[Mlisen14]

MegaChalupa posted:

And like I said, the way the protests are being reported on fails to get that idea across. They're putting far too much emphasis on that one statement to the point where it looks like the only thing the protest is trying to accomplish is disprove the validity of that one statement.

Nearly every single line in the article disproves your dumb opinion.

"Don't tell me how to dress. Tell them not to rape,"

The first SlutWalk protestors took to the streets of Toronto on April 3, roughly two months after Toronto Police officer Michael Sanguinetti suggested “women should avoid dressing like sluts in order not to be victimized”.

The officer’s thoughts on the issue ignited a campaign by a group of women in Toronto to effort reclamation of the word slut from being a derogatory term.

The purpose of SlutWalk, Solis said, is to invigorate the debate that will bring sexual respect for women and usher in the understanding that sex sells because it is a basic human experience that should be embraced, not abused.

some women might wear tight jeans with a red thong sticking out, but just because they dress provocatively, or lack full body clothing, does't mean men are granted a free pass to sexually assault them.

"How can you actually stand there and blame the girl for such an atrocious act?"

What the fuck is unclear about the protests?

[-nesto-]

Alex_DeLarge posted:

All I can say is, I don't like women who get drunk off their ass at parties and clubs and I certainly do not like women that reveal too much skin so honestly I don't give a shit. But to the ladies, stop dressing like fucking prostitutes.

Omg they have a right to wear what they want

[thisispain]

el lankist es un tiburon, indeed

[Alex_DeLarge]

Lankist posted:

Hey look who showed up, the misogynist

WHAT A SURPRISE

A misogynist? Me? What the hell?

[Uber|nooB]

Alex_DeLarge posted:

All I can say is, I don't like women who get drunk off their ass at parties and clubs and I certainly do not like women that reveal too much skin so honestly I don't give a shit. But to the ladies, stop dressing like fucking prostitutes.


Also if I can see your ass, it makes you a fucking whore. Stop pretending it doesn't.

you what

[MisterMooth]

MegaChalupa posted:

Okay, now how does your average person get from "raping a woman because she dresses like a slut isn't justifiable" to "the majority of rapist go unpunished and the majority of rape victims fail to report the crime to police"?

do you seriously fail to see the connection here

[Lankist]

Alex_DeLarge posted:

A misogynist? Me? What the hell?

All I can say is, I don't like women who get drunk off their ass at parties and clubs and I certainly do not like women that reveal too much skin so honestly I don't give a shit. But to the ladies, stop dressing like fucking prostitutes.


Also if I can see your ass, it makes you a fucking whore. Stop pretending it doesn't.

Yes, you.

Stop pretending you've seen any woman's ass in your entire life. You couldn't get tail if you skinned a raccoon.

[Alex_DeLarge]

-nesto- posted:

Omg they have a right to wear what they want

And I have the right to call them whores and look down upon them. Whatever

[Billiam]

Alex_DeLarge posted:

All I can say is, I don't like women who get drunk off their ass at parties and clubs and I certainly do not like women that reveal too much skin so honestly I don't give a shit. But to the ladies, stop dressing like fucking prostitutes.

If you're not into that you can leave the party and go somewhere else.

Like the Middle East.

[thisispain]

MegaChalupa posted:

Okay, now how does your average person get from "raping a woman because she dresses like a slut isn't justifiable" to "the majority of rapist go unpunished and the majority of rape victims fail to report the crime to police"?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pedantic

[Mlisen14]

Alex_DeLarge posted:

All I can say is, I don't like women who get drunk off their ass at parties and clubs and I certainly do not like women that reveal too much skin so honestly I don't give a shit. But to the ladies, stop dressing like fucking prostitutes.


Also if I can see your ass, it makes you a fucking whore. Stop pretending it doesn't.

Why should they be forced to have someone stick his dick in them because they like a certain style of clothing? You can't imagine how degrading that would be and would ruin one of the best experiences of people's lives. What the fuck.