And they don't have any vital signs either.
Also, dogs should have rights on discretion of his owner to be either as low as other animals, or to have no rights at all
1. Their's nothing "sacred" about a murders, rapists, and child molesters. if you think it's lowering people to their level by killing them, well that's your opinion, but it doesn't mean you're right.
2. One bullet doesn't cost a lot, and yes you might have a hard time finding someone to kill the person, not to mention they might regret it, but overall you won't have to use expensive chemicals or waste billions keeping them in prison.
3.By killing them others will be less likely to do it because they probably don't want to die.
4. yes it sucks for their families, if I had a family member in prison I would feel sad as fuck, but they did a terrible crime and it's their fault for doing it.
I am also for the death penalty in certain situations, but I agree that it has been used to our advantage sometimes. In some cases, people really did not deserve it especially when they were innocent. Some people though, just need to be put to death.
For those of you who say that prison is about rehabilitation - what do you think about
a murderer who did his crime just our of revenge, knowing what he did was wrong, being completely sane. Why wouldn't he deserve death sentence?
People should be in prision to be rehabilitated, which will mostly do the trick
But some people are just beyond any fucking repair (Not saying we shouldent try though)
I would say that it's very easy to justify the death penalty by saying that murderers and the like are 'no longer human' and so are no longer deserving of human rights. I think that's a very dangerous view; the idea that at any point the government can decide that someone no longer deserves human rights for any arbitrary reason. Surely the point of human rights is that they apply to all humans, regardless of what they've done.
You can debate morals forever.
I'd like to point out there is no deterrent effect, in fact, states WITH the death penalty have a higher crime rate, and states that drop the death penalty show NO CHANGE.
It costs much more to do the death penalty then life in prison, about 2-3 times more also.
And freeing up prison room? Yeah, a couple of cells. Might as well make minor offenders do community service.
I think if people have the ability to commit murder or such savage crimes anyway, then they're probably pretty numb to any sort of emotion, including fear of death, so I don't think it'll ever deter murder or crime in that sense
Sometimes I feel like the only person who value human life, so it's nice with threads like these.
I mean, even if I read about a person who slaughters countless human beings, I don't want him to die. Lock him up for the rest of his life, sure, but I don't think he should be killed. Let him sit and think about what he did.
If you go to prison for killing someone, would you rather spend your entire life in prison and get treated like shit? Or just die and get it over with.
Plus, I don't want to give some serial killer the chance to escape from a prison, or some gang leader to get busted out and continue with their crimes.
Political debates, hurrah. I plan to be a magistrate in the future and I research law, so here we go...
I see no wrong in culling anothers life, yet I do konw that it shouldn't be a court sentence. The fact is that we go to wars and we're OK with it. We sentence someone to death and everyone gets rowdy. Think about that. I only know it shouldn't be in court because, well, you've already listed the reasons.
I would just base this whole system upon this.
If you kill someone or try to attempt murder you will be executed as either way you have killed or tried to.
It disturbs me that people try to justify capital punishment with the 'if they do something reprehensible then they're not people any more' argument. Everyone is equal before the law, and it's not hard to see how judging someones intrinsic value as a human being based on their crime goes against that principle.
I'm pro Death Penalty. But not for small cases, like murder, that should be jailed. I'm talking about cases like mass murder, mass pedo, anything with a mass prefix.
Personaly, if someone murdured my whole familly. I wouldn't want my tax dollars going to keeping them alive and healthy, while they sit in a prison that may well be nicer than there house. Maybe it is just my lust for revenge, but I wouldn't want a person to enjoy there time in prison. They comitted a crime, and should be punished for it.
Besides your tax dollars will be going towards them whether they get prison or the death sentence, so that argument doesn't serve much purpose.
Well, what options?
If anything you could let the victim decide, or have some way for inmates that choose life in prison to make themselves productive, and costless.