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Post #361
This is the single greatest thing about 7.
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Without a doubt.
This is the single greatest thing about 7.
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I never use those menus, I never remember they exist and going in the app is almost just as fast if the app is well designed anyway.
This is the single greatest thing about 7.
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The only time I access them is when I forget it's windows and I try drag an icon off the superbar
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I've always used the Steam menu via the tray mainly because I switch between Vista and 7 a lot.
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I believe the explorer shortcuts Ctrl+Shift+Enter (Run as administrator) and Ctrl+Shift+N (New folder) top that.
This is the single greatest thing about 7.
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You sure have a weird definition of 'the greatest thing about 7' is, considering 99% of the PC-using planet probably doesn't know about either of those shortcuts...
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It's the little things that count.
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It is great. Except I forget its there. Apparently, as far as I can tell, its the only way to exit Skype. Sort of interesting that you can click and drag up and the fade animation is tied to your cursor position though.
This is the single greatest thing about 7.
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I can not tell you in words just how fucking annoying this bullshit is. Apparently someone over at Skype for got what the close button on a window is for and what a minimize button is for.
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I'm wondering why they haven't made a "minimize to system tray" feature yet, like 99% of all other communication software does. Windows Messenger had it out of the box in XP 10 years ago and probably goes back farther than that.
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This worked with WLM if you set its compat to Vista or below, I wonder if Skype'll do the same.
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You can also right-click the tray icon and quit it that way. Their developers are still major fucking retards, though. Applications that never want to close are annoying.
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Right-click tasktray icon, and click Exit. Is that so difficult? I do it for alot of apps in my tray.
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Guess I never really thought of it, since it decided to hide itself. Derp.
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Windows XP also has some major vulnerabilities that will probably never be patched as Microsoft loses interest (no longer retrieves money).
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And with very good reason, XP is old as fuck, and Microsoft wants people to buy their new OS. Microsft is a company, they need to make money. You don't make any money just patching up the same OS for free for all eternity.
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Every single application that I have installed uses the close button to close. Skype however does not. When I want to close Skype I click the close button because I'm use to it because every single other application I use has the close button close the application. That's why there's a close button there. Skype now has Minimize, Maximize/Restore, Minimize again. It's absolutely moronic and it's bad UX.
If I wanted to minimize to tray/taskbar I'd click the minimize button. That's what it's there for. If I want to close an application I'd click the close button, that's what it's there for. But no, Skype thinks there should be not one but two minimize buttons. One to minimize, and another to minimize.
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I think you underestimate how much money Microsoft makes from doing exactly just that but not for free. The consumer market is different. And of course XP will stop being supported at some point, but it's not 'as they stop caring', but rather in April 2014.
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ITT: The year 2005
XP is a great operating system, used it for years on end, rejected windows vista completely.
but oh man Windows 7, haven't looked back since
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I only touched Vista to upgrade my unstable XP machine until 7 came out. So I had Vista for about a good month and a half, and didn't really enjoy it much.
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You can't simply dismiss the fact that others have encountered that XP performs better for their use of system hardware over newer MS OSs, regardless of whether newer MS OSs are better for you. So, why the hate?
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Only because it was designed for older slower hardware.
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Naw man this is where it's at
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And for some, hardware isn't an option.
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Here we go again!!!
If your hardware is slow enough to where you HAVE to run XP, you aren't going to be doing anything crazy, so you have two options...
1) Linux
2) Windows Thin if you still have some program that only works in windows that WINE can't run correctly (or if you INSIST that you must use Windows still)
Both are up-to-date, still receiving updates, and fast. There are very few reasons to use XP, mainly for legacy support. Even then, just VM it if it is that big of an issue.
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So it runs lean and mean and uses less resources. What's your point? That he's completely right?
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Fair enough, if you have older hardware that requires an older OS like Windows XP to run efficiently, use XP, by all means.
But some people in this thread act as if it would be superior on a newer machine, the list of features that PandaX posted earlier (along with easier file organization, tab organization, multitasking capabilities and more) is far more important to me than the compatibility of some older software and the supposed FPS increase in games (which I suspect is negligible).
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Thats why (I) suggested to use Windows Thin over XP. It brings everything good about 7 to the table, but is almost as light-weight as XP.
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How well does Windows Thin fare on just 256MB of DDR400? Because my custom nLite version of XP Thin that I customized runs like a champ. I'm curious how they would compare.
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That's totally my case.
And besides, I hate WinSXS feature in Vista and 7 that eats my free space. I know what it's for, and I know about WinSXS Lite, but that's still a pain in the ass. If I'd have some built-in functionality to control this, I'd be happy. Not anyone can afford another HDD.
I'll probably take a look at Win 8 (since microsoft tells us that it takes less memory and has asynchronous API, which can't be bad for sure), but I certainly won't even try to use it without making light-weight version for myself. And that only in case if it has some really neat features for me.
PS Nope, I'm not using Win 7 now, that's just altered browser's userstring for the sake of conspiracy and shit. That's not even chrome :V
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WinSxS is in XP too.
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But it's not working "that good" in XP (afaik), therefore people only started complaining about it in Vista and 7. In XP new DLLs are just being written over, when Vista and 7 put them "side by side". The more you install programs - the more duplicates of DLLs you have.
Okay, I don't want to go into another debate here, rate me as you wish.
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"If you're BSODing you're doing something wrong."
Exactly. The major 3 causes of a BSOD are:
1. You have hardware issues, could be anything from overclocked CPU to running a million-billion amount of programs
2. OS Corruption. This also includes the SYSTEM_LICENSE_ACCESS_VIOLATION Bug Check, for not having a genuine copy of Windows.
3. Virus, Trojan etc. Not saying this is the top cause, but it is common.
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I just bought a low spec'd AMD Vision laptop (essentially a netbook in a 15" laptop case).
XP (at least the nLited install I'm using) is so much snappier and more responsive than 7 on this hardware. It feels like I'm back home after using 7 exclusively for a couple of years. I do miss a few of the features like Aero snap though.
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4. Bad drivers.
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Except when 2 isn't caused by you but by some edge cases in Windows, you're not doing anything wrong (except tolerating those issues and not switching to another OS)
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I will rather use XP on a computer with a dual core or weaker and 1gb ram and lower, like my laptop.
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Why dual core? They should have no problems with Windows 7. I agree with the 1 GB RAM part though.
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