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Post #41
This really is useful making relays and buttons linking to doors or stairs and signs that change color and all that. It is really a bitch to do them. I mean you have to fudge around the decompiled maps or do it manualy until you piss yourself and start punching the keyboard.
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Once you get the hang of it, it's alright.
It's setting up the room and organizing a puzzle that gets me.
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Tools that everyone can use...
Oh fuck what have you done Valve?
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OMG only TEH ELL1ET PLZZZ vALLVEEEEE!!!!1
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If it's not better than hammer then i dont care. If you can play whilst editing then it's good. It might be good for console players. But on otherwise, on the pc, we dont need it.
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If we can import the maps from this in to hammer, that'd be kickin' rad. Without using a decompiler, that is. I want to work on the actual chamber shape + puzzle in this editor, and just about everything else in hammer (music, lighting, fog, details, other gubbins)
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what
and what
I get that you're trying to be sarcastic but what
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In short, he's saying that we'll probably be annoyed because anyone can now upload poorly made work and say they're great at mapping. Or possibly that we'll think ourselves superior to people who use this editor when it comes out because we use Hammer.
I think.
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i'm guessing this won't be on console?
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Alot of people get realy annoyed about "Noobs" using and making maps that end up being shitty or just dull. But it's not realy fair to them.
I think this editor will give alot of newbies the chance to see what they can do and move up to hammer when they want to do more. Saying that letting everyone have a go is bad is realy elitest.
I don't know about that, but from those pictures it looks pretty Console-adaptable.
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Isn't that how people felt before they released Alien Swarm.
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with this editor. It gives you a quick and easy way to tweak your puzzle. And no doubt it'll have an export to VMF function, so you'll still be able to have all your custom stuff included.
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I dont know what i think about this. It looks like an good idea. But i hope it won't be like a 1000 noob uploads of crappy maps, and i really like how custom maps are made now, it makes us mappers look like pro's :D xP
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I have a feeling this will turn out to have too few set pieces to be able to anything without making custom pieces like the alien swarm tileset editor.
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How that would differ from Source SDK - mapping?
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This better not be what I think it is.
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hmmm, good pointHow that would differ from Source SDK - mapping?
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Knowing Valve, they might have just put that in there for comedic value (I hope)
This better not be what I think it is.
I do wonder how much a turret would cost
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Rated dumb for the concept, not the messenger.
This better not be what I think it is.
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And this will instantly destroy the portal two mapping community
good job valve
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Overreact more.
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So, custom user content for all platforms destroys the mapping community? Also, i mean, it'll never top Source SDK in terms of detail. If you want simply looking maps, use the (seemingly) easy map editor. If you want a detailed map with custom content to make it unique, use Source SDK. I don't see how whole thing could destroy the mapping community.
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Creating this streamlined system for publishing maps only made with this new editor will effectively stop players from wanting to go through the trouble to install maps not made with the new editor.
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Trackmania is still around, so why would a similar concept for a puzzle game destroy the community?
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Because you can just as easily access both kinds of tracks made in trackmania.
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Who's to say Valve won't let you publish externally made maps via the same service that they're offering with this map editor?
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Valid point.
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This is just to improve your map. So if you have finished a map in Portal 2 Hammer. You can modify it a bit some more with this program.
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Isn't it more the other way around? Where you use this to build a map from scratch.
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Maybe they give you a set amount of "money" to prevent you from putting too much stuff
This better not be what I think it is.
just a theory
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|:|Well then explain where will Hammer go? I mean by looking at the picture it looks clearly obvious that you will use this editor to get all the script related stuff in.
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Don't worry , buttons will be 10% off for the first week, at only $704,780!
This better not be what I think it is.
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Obama Approves?
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I think it's a great idea, especially if console users can get their hands on it and start using it. That's not sarcasm either. If the console scene can finally get some modding capability in it, then I don't see any reason not to do this.
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Valve are probably going to put in a validation system like Trackmania. Which I'd like.
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I expect their to be a tonne of maps named "THE ESCAPE" -.-
Seems to be the first idea for quite allot of mappers when they start mapping!
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They have little big planet, what else do they need?
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It just looks too easy, like the level editors that come with flash games. Now just connect the dots and bingo. I'm wondering how they're going to do this.
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Microsoft and Sony would never be up for it
Sony maybe, but with Microsoft there's no way in hell it'll happen
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Well, for Microsoft, maybe, but not for free.
Disagree x 2
Funny x 1
Agree x 4
Zing x 1
Dumb x 11
Mapping King x 1
