1. Post #161
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    Carne's Avatar
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    You come off as a very angry person.

    Your post just made it look like you were expecting a huge slice of the movie to be about what happens After "The Hobbit" and before "Fellowship of the Ring".
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  2. Post #162
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    I actually like that its more stand alone then connected to LotR
    Gives it a fresh feel
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  3. Post #163
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    Never said that either. I just said that they'd be bridging. Gandalf did as much shit as Aragorn.

    Please stop posting.
    It's called "The Hobbit".

    Not "That one part between LotR and The Hobbit"

    And to be honest, the Gollum hunt isn't at all that exciting, and it isn't a necessary part in bridging the stories either.
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  4. Post #164
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    Dennab
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    You come off as a very angry person.

    Your post just made it look like you were expecting a huge slice of the movie to be about what happens After "The Hobbit" and before "Fellowship of the Ring".
    You come off as a person with reading difficulties.
    I don't mean to be rude. But how'd your tone be if someone kept Shooting down your arguments, referring to points you never made. It's maddening.

    Edited:

    It's called "The Hobbit".

    Not "That one part between LotR and The Hobbit"

    And to be honest, the Gollum hunt isn't at all that exciting, and it isn't a necessary part in bridging the stories either.
    There's a shitton of Lore in those "between years" If they do the white council, they might as well include the search for gollum and his escape from mordor. And include Thorins father at the Necromancers fortress and that.

    Just makes for a deeper tale. And don't for a minute tell me that they'll spend 5-6 hours on a 300 page book when they just spent 9-10 on a 1200 pages book.
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  5. Post #165
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    I kept shooting down your arguments? If I did it was not in a rude way at all. I was just correcting you.

    First you say "GTFO or source" then "please stop posting". If you're so immature that you can't be corrected by someone then I suggest you leave this thread.
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  6. Post #166
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    Except showing white council shows what Gandalf did while he left the dwarves / Bilbo and much of that other stuff comes after the Hobbit is done. Both movies will be the Hobbit and will be Bilbo telling Frodo what happened. Even when Del Toro was on board he said they abandoned the "bridge film" concept.

    Also can anyone explain to me how Aragon was 87 in Fellowship of the Ring? Did Jackson ignore his age / does he age slower or what (and if Jackson ignored his age then how did he do all this stuff as an old guy in the books)
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  7. Post #167
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    Except showing white council shows what Gandalf did while he left the dwarves / Bilbo and much of that other stuff comes after the Hobbit is done. Both movies will be the Hobbit and will be Bilbo telling Frodo what happened. Even when Del Toro was on board he said they abandoned the "bridge film" concept.

    Also can anyone explain to me how Aragon was 87 in Fellowship of the Ring? Did Jackson ignore his age / does he age slower or what (and if Jackson ignored his age then how did he do all this stuff as an old guy in the books)
    Wasn't he one of the Dunedain, the descendants of the Numenors? IIRC they were blessed with long life or something.
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  8. Post #168
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    Also can anyone explain to me how Aragon was 87 in Fellowship of the Ring? Did Jackson ignore his age / does he age slower or what (and if Jackson ignored his age then how did he do all this stuff as an old guy in the books)
    L'Oreal does wonders, even in middle-earth.
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  9. Post #169
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    Wasn't he one of the Dunedain, the descendants of the Numenors? IIRC they were blessed with long life or something.
    He was one of the Dunedain. He even fought with Theodan in a battle long before The Two Towers.
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  10. Post #170
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    L'Oreal does wonders, even in middle-earth.
    L'Orien, the legendary elf perfume.
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  11. Post #171
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    He was one of the Dunedain. He even fought with Theodan in a battle long before The Two Towers.
    Wasn't it Theoden's grandfather he fought with?
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  12. Post #172
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    Dennab
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    Wasn't it Theoden's grandfather he fought with?
    Yep. In the films they set his age at 8x. In the books he's nearing 12x before he takes the throne.

    X not meaning "X times"
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  13. Post #173
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    Wasn't it Theoden's grandfather he fought with?
    Not sure. It probably is, since I'm only reading the books now and I don't rightly remember that scene in the Extended Cut to be sure.
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  14. Post #174
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    Just watched all of the video blogs, mind=blown.
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  15. Post #175
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    I wonder that should I read the Hobbit book before movie comes out.
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  16. Post #176
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    I wonder that should I read the Hobbit book before movie comes out.
    Maybe, I've never read LotR but watching the special features from my bluray EE turns out Jackson made a ton of changes. I've read the Hobbit but I feel like Jackson would make less changes to the hobbit
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  17. Post #177
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    the films are still fantastic, it's really more of a personal choice (if you want to be familiar with the story and what not).
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  18. Post #178
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    I think you should read it after you see the movie. I mean, I'm only reading The Lord of the Rings trilogy now, and I can see why Peter Jackson made the cuts he did.
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  19. Post #179
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    I think you should read the book before seeing the movie, that way you can look forward to seeing certain parts play out in more visual way, that's the way I've always done it. Watching the movie then reading the book usually (unless the book is very different) makes the book kinda boring.
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  20. Post #180
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    I think you should read it after you see the movie. I mean, I'm only reading The Lord of the Rings trilogy now, and I can see why Peter Jackson made the cuts he did.
    Then again, LotR and The Hobbit are two very different books in my opinion.

    The hobbit focused more on the travel itself and how the journey progressed.

    While LotR put very much detail on the environment and the surroundings.

    I think reading The Hobbit before watching it would be totally OK. One thing for sure is that it'll increase your hype extremely.
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  21. Post #181
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    Somewhere I've read that they were going to make Smaug the most badass and most spectacular dragon in movie history or something in this way.

    Now I'm asking if anyone knows the source of this quote or if anyone has also read that somewhere. I'd like to know if it's true. I've read it long time ago. 1-2 years ago, I think.
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  22. Post #182
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    I think Guillermo Del Toro said they'd have to make him the dragon of all movie dragons, because they can't just end up with another "meh" dragon.
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  23. Post #183
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    Yeah, Smaug was supposed to be all scary and imposing because of just being a dragon, but we've seen so many dragons in so many fantasy movies since the Hobbit was written that we've become kind of used to them. They'll need to make him hella spectacular just for the sake of the story itself.
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  24. Post #184
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    Dennab
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    Yeah, Smaug was supposed to be all scary and imposing because of just being a dragon, but we've seen so many dragons in so many fantasy movies since the Hobbit was written that we've become kind of used to them. They'll need to make him hella spectacular just for the sake of the story itself.
    How about something this size?

    This was THE dragon of the first age in Middle-Earth. Now Smaug barely fit in a hall of comparable size to Dwarrowdelf (that big-ass room where the party runs like fuck from the orcs and balrog in Moria).

    He'll be big as fuck and with the right design, imposing as fuck.
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  25. Post #185
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    How about something this size?

    This was THE dragon of the first age in Middle-Earth. Now Smaug barely fit in a hall of comparable size to Dwarrowdelf (that big-ass room where the party runs like fuck from the orcs and balrog in Moria).

    He'll be big as fuck and with the right design, imposing as fuck.
    A Silmarillion movie would be so fucking cool

    Just imagine the dragon, and then this



    Edited:

    That spider is also Shelobs' momma
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  26. Post #186
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    Don't mean to sound dumb but where do you guys know these back stories and stuff from?
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  27. Post #187
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    Don't mean to sound dumb but where do you guys know these back stories and stuff from?
    Might have misinterpreted your question but the huge dragons and spiders are from The Silmarillion
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  28. Post #188
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    Man I read the Silmarillion in like 10th grade. How did I miss all of this?
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  29. Post #189
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    A Silmarillion movie would be so fucking cool

    Just imagine the dragon, and then this



    Edited:

    That spider is also Shelobs' momma
    Is that Melkor/Morgoth standing there?
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  30. Post #190
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    Is that Melkor/Morgoth standing there?
    Melkor




    he sure is one big motherfucker.
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  31. Post #191
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    Don't mean to sound dumb but where do you guys know these back stories and stuff from?
    There's more to Middle Earth than just Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit.
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  32. Post #192
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    Don't mean to sound dumb but where do you guys know these back stories and stuff from?
    Children of Hurin, Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth
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  33. Post #193
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    Children of Hurin, Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth
    Of which Jackson has none of the rights to film :/
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  34. Post #194
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    Anyone know if there's gonna be a set video soon?

    Feels like forever since the last one.
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  35. Post #195
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    Of which Jackson has none of the rights to film :/
    There is still the possibility that he will get them.
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  36. Post #196
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    There is still the possibility that he will get them.
    True, but it means he can't use any of that material in his current movies
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  37. Post #197
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    Melkor




    he sure is one big motherfucker.
    This raises the question of how fucking big that spider actually is.
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  38. Post #198
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    So the non-hobbit / LOTR books, are they worth buying? Because I had no idea there were more stories by Tolkien! (Excuse my ignorance)
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  39. Post #199
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    True, but it means he can't use any of that material in his current movies
    Since he has the rights to the Hobbit, then that should at least mean he has all the rights to anything mentioning the other things in the book right? Should it be that the book doesn't mention them, then they clearly can't be too important to the plot of this movie either way.
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  40. Post #200
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    Dennab
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    True, but it means he can't use any of that material in his current movies
    Not gon stop Smaug from being big/imposing as fuck.

    Edited:

    Since he has the rights to the Hobbit, then that should at least mean he has all the rights to anything mentioning the other things in the book right? Should it be that the book doesn't mention them, then they clearly can't be too important to the plot of this movie either way.
    He also has the rights to the LoTR appendices and AFAIK he's using those to bridge movie two with Fellowship.

    Edited:

    Don't mean to sound dumb but where do you guys know these back stories and stuff from?
    Books.
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