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That wasn't his point at all.
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The US are a neo-colonialism state. It is simple: everyone know they attack countries for democratic and humanist reasons (even their people don't know what is the attacked country) and they overthrow countries governement like Iran, Guatemala, Ecuador, Panama, ... They tried on Venezuela in 2002 (Bush government) but they didn't win this time, Venezuela people wanted Hugo Chavez to stay as the president and not the dictator formed by the CIA to get the power in Venezuela :).
The US is a country full of cool, funny and friendly people! It isn't because a country is managed by corporate fuckers and lobbyists that people there aren't cool!
But I don't agree, all those wars, governement overthrows made by the US just for to help US corporations to get more profits.
You know, when the US attack a country, the US corporations get there and start to sell their products to the people. Per exemple: Coca Cola or Pepsi (worldwide). Other companies like fuel companies and ore companies who start to extract all the ressources. And the final one: BANKS. They start to give huge loans to this country and make the governement poor... Very poor... Because, if they give loans on the US companies based on this country, the governement is forced to cut its budget for education, security, etc...
That explain why so many country in the world are fucked because they got owned by the US.
The US is the biggest empire in our planet today. But we cannot say that the US is an empire because there is an elected president. But the real masters are the minority who are at the head of big corporations BASED in the US who influence the governement with lobbyists. Those people who are at the top of those companies are also the masters of press/news companies, using television, newspapers, etc... to brainwash american people and give them "hope"... For nothing...
The US people need to get out in the streets and they must overthrow their governement first... But then all the corporations!
1. All the US currency and Euros are made by debts! That means the banks fucked all of us!
2. Corporate greed are stealing OUR money.
3. After all the wars made by the US, the real terrorists aren't Al Quaida but the men who wears 5000$ suits in Wall Streets and Governement offices! Also, there are more people killed by the US than the Nazis! This is true, look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States (huge list for a country, even after 1950).
4. They can accuse someone to be a terrorist if they want to without any reasons.
5. They imprison people who hack shitty website for 122 years. Even child rapists are imprisoned for 20 years! So ok, the justice of US thinks that hacking website is more serious than rape and kill childrens...
6. They can arrest people outside their country, without international warrants.
7. They spent 500,000,000,000 $ for their army every years! You know with this money you can get ALL the US students in private schools? Or make a very good healthcare system!
8. But they doesn't care of the US citizens... They just want profits!
THE US IS THE NEW BIG DICTATORSHIP IN THIS WORLD, THEY FUCKED SO MANY PEOPLE, THEY FUCKED SO MANY COUNTRIES, THEY KILLED SO MANY CHILDREN, THEY BOMBED SO MANY COUNTRIES, HOSPITALS OR SCHOOLS!
We live in a CORPORATOCRACY: a "democratic" state managed by rich people who are monitored and influenced by corporations. They only have one goal: profits as much as possible.
PS: Excuse me for writing so fast, but you must know it is hard to write what you really think. I am very sensitive at this point about the US greed. I hope one day we will find peace everywhere. Actually, the US is the main country who lead wars around the world with NATO or itself. I hate wars, I hate guns and I want more humanity and love on this world than money, materialism, justin bieber and other shit we don't really care but we do it because we don't find anything else to worry about... Fuck this world, I hope one day I could be happy. Life continues.
(User was banned for this post ("Needlessly vitriolic debate, ridiculous post." - Megafan))
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America isn't Democratic, it's a republic. And congress declares war for the same reason Al-Qaeda decided to attack it. They attack when they feel a country has its head is up its own ass (be that values, religion, government, whatever (you might consider that humanist, but killing people isn't humanist at all)).
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Tell me where Al Quaida attacked the US?
The 9/11 ???
Damn dude, we found thermite use in the World Trade Center foundations and in the WTC7 ! Can you tell me how a plane could install those explosives on the towers structure?
Also, other plane crashes are strange! The pentagon attack is a mystery... No trace of a Booeing plane all around... Just some metal pieces (who can be handled by a person).
The 9/11 events are just a catalyst to launch the war in the Middle East. I'd say: "The petrol war"... and it is actually called "The war on FEAR".
PATRIOT act, FOXshit and other mediashit who try to fear the people about terrorism and Al Quaida are totally bull shit and make the day of every american citizen a bad day of fear!
With this shit, American bought many security systems, weapons, etc... In fact the War of Fear is just good for one thing... The profits of big american corporations where you buy the guns, security systems, medias, etc...
PS: I know that Talibaneses were formed by the CIA and got many funds to help the US against the Red Army (CCCP) while the Afghan War. I know also that they received a lot of funds... But it was for this war and the country. The money wasn't given in a suitcase like they do in films... The money was on an american bank account... Or else, it'd be easy :P.
But Al Quaida never did any attempt on the US territory. NEVER. Prove me then if you think I'm wrong ^^.
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No you didn't.
You know there isn't. you can't possibly think there is.
Why are you people so fixated on building 7? what logic is there "on top of orchestrating the greatest crime in history, lets destroy a building near by that has no real value or purpose! And we'll leave clues EVERYWHERE."
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That's not what I said at all, maybe you should re-read that post.
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Definitely not about mineral wealth or the control of international markets nu-ahh
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Why did you ban that guy, megafan?
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That part when he got into WTC conspiracies was ridiculous but other than that he just had very blunt but otherwise legit opinions.
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That doesn't seem like a valid ban reason to me.
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Honestly, it seems like america is going rather downhill at quite a pace. And the fact that several other countries believe that it's the greatest country to be in makes it kind of worse, since their getting dragged into it. I don't know very much about the US, but I do know that it influences the world, mostly in negative ways.
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Megafan bans people when he doesn't like their opinions.
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Great job not supplying evidence and making baseless claims while ADMITTING that you know nothing about the subject.
HEY MEGANFAN THESE ARE THE GUYS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BAN.
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Bad job Megafan I'm sorry but that's not how to moderate, no matter how stupid he is.
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Posting an all-caps exclamation of something hyperbolic as he did falls under the category of bad posting in Mass Debate. If you think I do a poor job, you are free to, but this is not the place to contest bans.
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Yeah, but it was pretty apparently bullshit. It's clear you banned him because you disagreed with him.
Besides, no one is arguing anything, he was the only person providing a counter argument. And he's gone for now, so it's boring again. Good job, megafan.
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A great man once said; If you are a dick, People shall mess with your title
January 2011
3,595 Posts
I love how Goblin is the one making immense amounts of sense.
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America is literally a third-world nation that has utterly failed to meet any of the goals and ideals laid out in the constitution. The global power it holds is already waning in the face of their incredible economic debts to countries they can't just invade to wipe their problems away (China). About the only thing they have going for them is their giant stash of nukes.
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I've already told you I didn't. Again, this is not a thread to contest bans.
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Are you literally angry at America?
Like, do you star sweating and turning red when you think of the U.S.?
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Well, I can't blame him if he did.
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It's more of pity if anything.
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I'm gonna get a book from a friend about all the foreign US policy (I don't remember the title and the author) but I know it was made by a very good politic-science teacher. I'm impatient to read this book, to learn more about the US.
In the history, there were a lot of issues too... I hope, a day, the truth will be revealed about the US.
I just gave my opinions about the US, and now I stop here. But if you have any questions, or arguments against my reply; please, post it. :)
I wrote my post with impulsiveness, sorry for the captions... But this problem is done :). This ban isn't the goal of this thread. We are here to talk
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I asked this: Why are you so fixated on WTC building 7?I'm gonna get a book from a friend about all the foreign US policy (I don't remember the title and the author) but I know it was made by a very good politic-science teacher. I'm impatient to read this book, to learn more about the US.
In the history, there were a lot of issues too... I hope, a day, the truth will be revealed about the US.
I just gave my opinions about the US, and now I stop here. But if you have any questions, or arguments against my reply; please, post it. :)
I wrote my post with impulsiveness, sorry for the captions... But this problem is done :). This ban isn't the goal of this thread. We are here to talk .
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A great man once said; If you are a dick, People shall mess with your title
January 2011
3,595 Posts
No one can blame the mis informed.
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Well, you need to be a special kind of ignorant to ignore the bad shit the US does.
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Perhaps an American?
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A great man once said; If you are a dick, People shall mess with your title
January 2011
3,595 Posts
Never ignored it, but I do not blatantly over bloat it like you.
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Americans have some of the lowest national pride and trust for their government in the world, quit believing in stereotypes.
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America seems to enjoy getting away with the shit it does. I don't see how talking about it is 'overbloating' it. You on the other hand seem deathly afraid of admitting your country can do wrong.
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You talk like American conservatives=American people as a whole. Stop generalizing. I could call you commie scum because you're a liberal, but that wouldn't be fair either, would it?
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I'm not a liberal, first of all. Second, conservatives aren't the only ones who at fault. Sure, they're pretty much MOST of the problem, but it's a fair scale.
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Because it was strange. The WTC7 was the only one fallen building around the WTC park. The WTC7 wasn't hit by a plane or by something... And about the US gov: "a fire started inside the WTC7 and explosed fuel tanks that destroyed that building"... Lol, they really think that people are dumb to believe that...
So I think it is a controlled destruction.
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A great man once said; If you are a dick, People shall mess with your title
January 2011
3,595 Posts
No other buildings fell? Jesus fuck man did you even look at any pictures of New York? There were tons of buildings that look like bombs hit them.Because it was strange. The WTC7 was the only one fallen building around the WTC park. The WTC7 wasn't hit by a plane or by something... And about the US gov: "a fire started inside the WTC7 and explosed fuel tanks that destroyed that building"... Lol, they really think that people are dumb to believe that...
So I think it is a controlled destruction.
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I seem deathly afraid? I never said anything about her capacity to do wrong, stop putting words in others mouths because your own argument does not back up, what I am saying is you act like the US is the sole power in the world that causes all evil and all wars and nothing is worse than it in any way.
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They gave an official and obvious explanation to it's collapse.Because it was strange. The WTC7 was the only one fallen building around the WTC park. The WTC7 wasn't hit by a plane or by something... And about the US gov: "a fire started inside the WTC7 and explosed fuel tanks that destroyed that building"... Lol, they really think that people are dumb to believe that...
So I think it is a controlled destruction.
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LOL NO WAY you're dumb I somehow know better.
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And why do you people always say "controlled" demolition? Have you ever seen a controlled demolition? The buildings look nothing like the WTC buildings after they are destroyed. Why would the government bother with controlled demolition anyway? Why no just layer the building with explosives and pulverize it?
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Well your uncertainty just comes from plain lack of knowledge.Because it was strange. The WTC7 was the only one fallen building around the WTC park. The WTC7 wasn't hit by a plane or by something... And about the US gov: "a fire started inside the WTC7 and explosed fuel tanks that destroyed that building"... Lol, they really think that people are dumb to believe that...
So I think it is a controlled destruction.
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The WTC 7 building was the only one to collapse, yes, but all the other buildings were shredded apart. The only reason why WTC 7 collapsed is because of its strange design. The fire that raged inside of it did help bring it down, ontop of the fact that the side of the building was carved out by debris, helped drop it. The fires were going for more than 9 hours, this weakened the structure.
WTC 7's collapse is actually a common collapse type. It's called a progressive collapse, many damaged buildings in the past have fallen on their own through this means.
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I mean, you say no other building collapsed.
Yeah, that may be partly true, but...
At what point do you go "okay, 3/4 of the building is missing and standing on a literal thread, so maybe an outright collapse doesn't matter all that much.
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We've got a fucking Alex Jones conspiracy nut. Wonderful.
Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Wo...Center_bombing
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how about the mossad agents who had critical intelligence that the attack was going to happen yet did nothing?
i don't believe the government is efficient enough to properly stage a false flag terror attack like this, but there are many facts that haven't been revealed to us about it.
they were caught red handed with the oklahoma city bombing; both means and opportunity (cia agents admitting to planting explosives + news reports), as well as motive (to demonize anti-government and militia movements). that was pretty small scale compared to 9/11. what makes anyone think they could do it better?
simple dismissal of it as "conspiracy nut nonsense" does not progress the debate whatsoever, and is simply immaturity and ignorance at best.
give it consideration, take the time to research both sides of the story, then make your conclusion. too few people abide by this rule.
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Got any evidence for any of that buddy?
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i just posted some of it... searching on your own will also help.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/ok.php
presents a few interesting points, no?
cue you try to dismiss that source... this will prove my point
considering the gulf of tonkin, operation northwoods, the warren commission (headed by a former bank CEO after JFK signed EO11110, hmm...), the iran contra scandal, CIA causing the crack epidemic, iran coup d'etat of 1953, operation fast and furious, the "wmds" in iraq, all the horrible dictators we propped up and funded, COINTELPRO, NDAA, bobby hutton, bradley manning, KONY2012, the fact that we are "protecting" opium fields in afghanistan, waco... just to name a few
is your government so great after all?
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Sorry, I couldn't get past this
The batshit was a bit too overwhelming.
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this is not how you argue effectively...Sorry, I couldn't get past this
The batshit was a bit too overwhelming.
