1. Post #281
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    Perhaps. My LGS isn't really competitive at all, and we throw lists together when we get there, so it is a defiant yes.

    It may have a place for a thought out list though. Somewhere along the line of Gift of chaos spam, because the sorcerers are going to be so close.
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  2. Post #282
    Fabulous!
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    I never thought I would say that about Imperial Guard but those mutherfuckers are badass!
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  3. Post #283
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    I never thought I would say that about Imperial Guard
    DKoK or not, Imperial Guardsmen are nothing but badasses.
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  4. Post #284
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    DKoK or not, Imperial Guardsmen are nothing but badasses.
    Agreed. As far as looks go, DKoK, Steel Legion and Vostoyans take it but pretty much Guardsmen as a whole are badass. Makes me miss the Lost and the Damned.
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  5. Post #285
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    DKoK or not, Imperial Guardsmen are nothing but badasses.
    I disagree, IG are a bunch of cowards in tincans armed with laser pointers. I think than DKoK are awesome because they just don't give a shit about anything.

    Edited:

    Even though they're still IG.
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  6. Post #286
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    I disagree, IG are a bunch of cowards
    Stat wise, yes. Fluff wise they are badasses.

    in tincans armed with laser pointers


    WHATS THAT? LASCANNONS GLANCE ON 5+?
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  7. Post #287
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    WHATS THAT? LASCANNONS GLANCE ON 5+?
    They do have amazing thanks though (as long as you don't deep strike Necron Lords behind them to slice off their barrels in one hit) but their infantry is laughable.
    I didn't get a chance to face Karskins or Ogryns though.

    Edited:

    To me, standard IG army takes a second place on sillyness and goofiness just below Orcs.
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  8. Post #288
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    deep strike Necron Lords behind them
    Area denial with standard guardsmen?
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  9. Post #289
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    Area denial with standard guardsmen?
    Yeh, definitely. I just remembered one of my matches where I had a Necron Lord full of gear and he almost single-handedly annihilated an IG army by deep striking behind it, destroying the tank and making Guardsmen lose their moral checks.
    I think that was the fastest win I ever got, that was one lucky deep strike though.
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  10. Post #290
    They do have amazing thanks though (as long as you don't deep strike Necron Lords behind them to slice off their barrels in one hit) but their infantry is laughable.
    I didn't get a chance to face Karskins or Ogryns though.

    Edited:

    To me, standard IG army takes a second place on sillyness and goofiness just below Orcs.
    You havent seen someone use three hundred guardsmen in a 2000 point game have you?
    Shit is god damn horrifying until you realize you kill them by the tens with a single marine.
    Fucking conscripts man, and if they have commissars they are unbreakable.
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  11. Post #291
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    If you ask me, the fact that IG armies are so poorly equipped in relation to other 40k armies is what makes them badass. Especially when you consider the fact that they don't lose all the time.

    PDF forces, on the other hands? cowards and incompetents.
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  12. Post #292
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    A blob of guardsmen on the tabletop can be terrifying as it is entirely probable that you simply can't kill all of them, meaning they will drown you by sheer weight of numbers in combat.

    That commissar that can keep spawning endless waves of conscripts makes this ten times worse.
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  13. Post #293
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    A blob of guardsmen on the tabletop can be terrifying as it is entirely probable that you simply can't kill all of them, meaning they will drown you by sheer weight of numbers in combat.

    That commissar that can keep spawning endless waves of conscripts makes this ten times worse.
    There's a commissar that can do that?
    But that aside, I'd introduce my friends, Plague Marines with Flamers. They'll be here shortly.
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  14. Post #294
    There's a commissar that can do that?
    But that aside, I'd introduce my friends, Plague Marines with Flamers. They'll be here shortly.
    Isnt a commissar, I think he's a platoon comm, or company comm. It's Commander Chenkov.
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  15. Post #295
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    Chenkov does give a Kill Point through use of his ability. It just doesn't matter, since all your shit is tarpitted, and the Basilisks fuck you up.
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  16. Post #296
    Going off the current discussion for a sec.

    I just remembered the time some guy at my GW killed THREE TERMINATORS WITH ONE BARBED STRANGLER.
    Those were good times, we all high fived him, and he got a $0.01 gift voucher. The voucher was literally the manager saying "You need a reward" and pulling out a penny.
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  17. Post #297
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    Isnt a commissar, I think he's a platoon comm, or company comm. It's Commander Chenkov.
    Just read it, he just picks up old squads, if the squad is killed his ability is useless.
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  18. Post #298
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    I disagree, IG are a bunch of cowards in tincans armed with laser pointers. I think than DKoK are awesome because they just don't give a shit about anything.

    Edited:

    Even though they're still IG.
    Um... have you ever watched an IG batrep? Or an Ork batrep?

    Orks especially... BS2? AHAA!!

    But yeah, tarpit armies play the objectives not the opposing army.

    Seriously, I've watched orks get blasted to smithereens but oh look, you don't control anything? Shame. Guess the orks win again....

    IG is like orks with super reliable armor. There's a reason why leafblower lists exist.
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  19. Post #299
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    What are your guys' thoughts on Ogryns? I feel like they could use some more fan-fluff.
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  20. Post #300
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    What are your guys' thoughts on Ogryns? I feel like they could use some more fan-fluff.
    They're hilarious but they do not perform well on the battlefield
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  21. Post #301
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    What are your guys' thoughts on Ogryns? I feel like they could use some more fan-fluff.
    They have The Ballad of Gav and Bob, they don't need anymore fan-fluff.
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  22. Post #302
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    As much as I do like Ogryn (Fluff and DoW (couple with Psykers for "Circus is Back in Town")), their tabletop position is pretty bad. Ratlings are just overall hated, from what I know.

    Also. You can never have enough DeathStrike Missile Launchers.
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  23. Post #303
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    What are your guys' thoughts on Ogryns? I feel like they could use some more fan-fluff.
    I love them in fluff, but in TT? They're just not worth it, not competitively, not for fun.
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  24. Post #304
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    9 leman russ tanks in one game, end of fucking story, gaurd wins.
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  25. Post #305
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    My first list in 40k. Voila.

    CCS-
    bolt pistol
    company standard
    vox caster.

    PCS1-
    bolt pistol
    platoon standard
    vox caster

    Infantry Squad 1-
    vox caster
    grenade launcher

    Infantry squad 2-
    vox caster
    grenade launcher

    PCS2-
    Bolt pistol
    Platoon Standard
    vox caster

    Infantry Squad 3-
    vox caster
    grenade launcher

    Infantry squad 4-
    vox caster
    grenade launcher

    Heavy weapons squad-
    Heavy bolters
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  26. Post #306
    ask me for a rust key :~)
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    Okay. My idiot friend who used to play is quitting/has quit 40k and wants to sell his army. He said that anything I make over 200 dollars goes to me. What would you guys value this army at. Sorry for the terrible formatting. I'm working on getting a better list with model counts. Also, assume that the paint is crap.
    Code:
    2 dreadknights 
    predator 
    khorn berzerkers 
    3 or 4 regular squads 
    1 squad possessed CSM
    2 hq squad leaders(Not sure what he means by these. I'm assuming sergeants)
    Lucius the Eternal 
    Kharn the Betrayer (metal)
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  27. Post #307
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    My first list in 40k. Voila.
    You gonna get chopped.
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  28. Post #308
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    9 leman russ tanks in one game, end of fucking story, gaurd wins.
    You've got 6 turns to blast the equivalent amount of points in orks off the table, chances are I'll have most of the objectives buhddy.

    ( just kidding, statistically orks and IG tie, yay for tarpits! )


    Yeah IG bring some impressive firepower, and you don't get nearly as much brass in points with other armies.
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  29. Post #309
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    You gonna get chopped.
    Exactly why I'm asking for help! I'd prefer not to get chopped too badly.
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  30. Post #310
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    Exactly why I'm asking for help! I'd prefer not to get chopped too badly.
    Take at least one Chimera, or if you wanna be a dick, a Leman Russ.

    Edited:

    You've got 6 turns to blast the equivalent amount of points in orks off the table, chances are I'll have most of the objectives buhddy.
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  31. Post #311
    ask me for a rust key :~)
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    Alright. Got a good list.
    Code:
    5x Possessed CSM
    1x Predator
    1x Dreadnought
    1x Terminator Lord
    1x dreadnought daemon thing(what appears like a terribly greenstuff'd dread)
    1x Daemon Prince
    1x Chaos Lord
    5x Terminators
    1x Lucius the Eternal
    1x Kharn the betrayer
    17x CSMs
    19x Khorne Beserkers
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  32. Post #312
    ask me for a rust key :~)
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    What would I (yeah. He's making me sell it) be able to get for all of that on eBay or otherwise.
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  33. Post #313
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    Take at least one Chimera, or if you wanna be a dick, a Leman Russ.

    Edited:
    I'm trying to get a more 40k in 40 minutes type of army. No vehicles with more than 33 combined armour. But say I didn't want to use any vehicles, What can I do to help out my squishy guardsmen?
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  34. Post #314
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    I have to admit I really do enjoy 40k fan fluff, although mostly the jokey stuff, like Kriegers showing up instead of shipments and building fortifications everywhere or Kharn being a pretty cool guy.
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  35. Post #315
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    I have to admit I really do enjoy 40k fan fluff, although mostly the jokey stuff, like Kriegers showing up instead of shipments and building fortifications everywhere or Kharn being a pretty cool guy.
    Everyone knows and loves Kharn. He is a pretty cool guy.
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  36. Post #316
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    The conspiracy theories on tvtropes for 40k are amazing.
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  37. Post #317
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    Not sure, look on Ebay, most things people sell are either unpainted or painted to a high standard. You'd likely get more for seeling each piece individually.
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  38. Post #318
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    This image still gets me every time:

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  39. Post #319
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    My first list in 40k. Voila.

    CCS-
    bolt pistol
    company standard
    vox caster.

    PCS1-
    bolt pistol
    platoon standard
    vox caster

    Infantry Squad 1-
    vox caster
    grenade launcher

    Infantry squad 2-
    vox caster
    grenade launcher

    PCS2-
    Bolt pistol
    Platoon Standard
    vox caster

    Infantry Squad 3-
    vox caster
    grenade launcher

    Infantry squad 4-
    vox caster
    grenade launcher

    Heavy weapons squad-
    Heavy bolters
    You have no Close Combat capabilities, if you get assaulted from Troop Transports (which you will) you won't be able to do anything about it, them or the vehicles. Get some Lascannons and missile Launchers in the list somewhere, and give a squad or two a Chimera to get them on Objectives, then they can hunker down and blast the everloving shit out of whatever attacks.
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  40. Post #320
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    The conspiracy theories on tvtropes for 40k are amazing.
    Just wait until you're on /tg/ for one of the rare paranoid marines thread. Oh god I nearly pissed myself.
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