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I thought just believing something doesn't have much power, it's actions that matter. Chaos gods are not strengthened by belief, they are strengthened by the expression, thought, emotions, etc that have to do with them
He was changed to Malice. He still exists.
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Belief no, latent/hidden/subconscious psyker power that almost all living being have in varying amounts can affect stuff. Orks being a perfect example.
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Semi-related, but what's the deal with those "living saints"?
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They are a Warrior who displays miraculous abilities while living. Basically they become a saint while still being alive.
Some are killed and then supposedly resurrected by the power of the Emperor - such as Saint Sabbat and Saint Celestine.
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You copied that of the Lexicanum
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The Necrons were essentially reverted to an earlier version with some twilight touchy feely goodness, that's pretty much the definition of retcon, without positive or negative connotations.
To the former, it's all opinion, not fact anyway, and it wouldn't have even been an issue except for how loud and long the protest for change was held up as a tentpole; couple that with OMG THE BOLTGUN WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THIS ENTIRE GAME IS THE END OF WARHAMMER; (really? the whole game and franchise is ruined because the devs made the BP act like a auto-stubber?) it's exacerbated by the fact the earlier iteration of the game was actually more genre accurate: it was darker, featured more races, and actually featured the exterminatus mechanics in sp mode, which is hell of a lot more fluff accurate than captain bad hair goes off on his own and is blue smurf immune to all Chows influence. If you look at Retribution and SM, the stories are frankly a little too similar for a game four years in development.
And yeah, I find it funny that someone who bandwagons a race make-over gets fetishist butthurt at a change to one weapon amongst the vast and unyielding plethora of weapons available to it a gameplay parameter, especially when said person is saying the all gameplay changes to 6e are just lurvely without having actually being able test on-hand whether true or not, and completely ignoring the fact that Space Marine weapons aren't even remotely TT or fluff accurate to begin with as it is, except for the chainsword and thunder hammer/maul.
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Orks pretty much refute that. Their actions should make Khorne the most powerful by far; he isn't, and their stuff works cause they believe it does.
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Ah, you're back.
Did I ever say that the entire Original Space Marine was ruined? No, I had a bone to pick with how they used the Bolt Pistol. That's it, that was the only gameplay video of it released, I've not seen anymore of it, neither have you.
The Game doesn't need to have a load of races to be 40k, I'm not sure why you think it does. If there's enough variety within a single race why add more?
Again, Space Marine was made to bring 40k into the public eye, maybe the casual Console gamer has heard of it? What does he know? He sees Space Marine, plays the demo. It's about this. Space Marines defending the Imperium from Aliens and their evil brothers. The ending was, to some people, Grimdark enough. The walls of Manufactorum Ajakis didn't need to be coated with the tears of Orphans to be all fluffy. At the end, the main character is Taken away by what the player knows to be the Supreme authority, the FBI/CIA/MI5/whatever, of the Imperium to be interrogated and experimented on, all on the squealing of a Squadmate. That was enough for most people, and it left me satisfied.
It's not bandwagoning to like something. I like the Newcrons, the old ones bored me to tears. In reality, very little has changed, people can still have their undying legions of Silent Death Machines if they want. That's possible if they want.
I'm not saying that all of the changes in 6e are lurvely. If you'd care to check;
I said interesting. I've not read the whole book, but the direction being taken is a bit different, and my curiosity is piqued.
Again, you're not reading. I said I was satisfied that the weapons in Space Marine were as close to accurate as they could get while still providing a decent challenge. Titus felt weighty to play, you used a Bolter and gouts of blood burst from Orks, but still they charged on. If we're going to be all fluffy accurate, each Ork would die to one, maybe two Bolt Rounds and Titus would move one hell of a lot quicker, due to the Black Carapace. But that's not the games intended purpose, it's to get into combat and kick alien Ass.
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His face reminds me of Ross Noble
Not sure if official, but if it is the Emperor is pretty fucking huge isn't he?
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The orks sounded like shit and had no mention of fucking dakka.
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Like seriously. It's not even hard to come up with dialog for orks.
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I thought Grimskull was pretty fucking awesome.
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He was my favourite in the entire game.
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Pouring through the 6e book with my friend who has been playing since he was 12.
He is not amused with it.
Well he is amused with pistols rending in close combat, and the statline for the Graviton Beamer.
Get in there techpriests, you have one shot at S10 rending in closecombat.
He's calling 6e an elfdar codex in disguise at this point.
We'll all be on edge for this summer. At least vehicles are all fearless now. Derp derp.
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A thought just occurred to me, could the emperor be brought back to life if the orks believed he was alive?
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No, in the same way that Ork guns won't fire if they lack Ammunition, just because the Orks believe it will. The Orks Latent field is more of a grease for the improbable. Their Guns are rusted pieces of crap in the hands of others, but in the Hands of an Ork, they seldom jam and spit a wide variety of death in various calibres.
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Well, it sort of works for Yarrick. Kinda.
He might lose that migraine of his.
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If enough Orks believed it, maybe. However it's very hard to coordinate Orks, and you'd need a lot of them (even in Orks terms). There is a theory that when the situation of the Imperium will be dire enough, the focused wish of mankind for him to save them will bring him back.
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There was an ork Bomma pilot that didn't notice he had no fuel so he continue flying, he only crashed when he noticed the gauge.
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Yeah but GW would never advance the plot
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Khorne is the mightiest and the oldest of the chaos Gods.
Are you talking about that Video i posted? The Graphics for that version would of been nicer than what we got, overall it looked more Grimdark.
No, a retcon is a deliberate alteration of previously established facts. The Necrons were just expanded on - previous versions of the Codex said the Necrons we saw were just a few that woke early.
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Umm, no? They completely changed the older fluff for Necrons.
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Other than the C'tan being changed, it wasn't really. It was expanded upon.
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why do they think it is cowardice, is it like world war one mentality? Raven Guard has a pretty cool color like night black, i bought colours today so painting today just letting the spraying dry and pictures will come later. i dont think i will make camoflage since it seems hard but i will make a coloring that i think you guys will look cool.
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alright how can i post smaller pictures so that you have to click them to make bigger?
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Terminator's neck looks like it's bent, perhaps you could try another position for his head.Hello people i really the miniatures of warhamer 40k so i bought a kit of assault terminators and started tweaking around some, what would be the best way to paint them? i think maybe black and white like those black templars but something reverse?
people keep talkign about drybrushing and highlighting, what does that mean and are there videos on how to best do this?
this one came out pretty cool i think
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It will have tyranids.
Sadly, i think they'll be enemies, though, i don't even think they'll be on either side.
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yes i did cut some more after pictures was taken, did not notice earlier but now when you can see the pictures it is more noticeable i think thanks for tip on painting!
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i dont think i can change the neck anymore since its superglued
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Go and finish the game.
It's worth it, trust me.
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Superglue grows weaker in time.
It's easy to take a superglued piece off, try it.
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Space Marines are created to fight, they'd think that sneaking around and hiding from the enemy would be dishonourable and prehaps even lacking faith in the Emperor. It's not really their purpose, their purpose is to be in the middle of battle fighting.
That are they wear the Chapters colours with pride.
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Summoned Daemon works terribly with that. The sorcerers need to get close to make it viable, Thousand Sons are not exactly melee orientated(I 1) (Sorc has force weapon though) (2d6 pick highest movement). It may be viable by popping a TS squad in a rhino. Other than that its a wasted 100 points.I'm trying to wrap my head around Chaos Codex, which is much more complicated than Oldcron Codex that I'm used to (Necron Warriors, Necron Warriors, more Necron Warriors).
This is my first stab at it, 1000 points army:
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What should I take instead of Greater Demon then? I was thinking maybe a pack of Raptors?
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Fucking rhinos
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Well, it's not like they're melee-oriented either.
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i can see if it works taking it off but i think it can be hard, i used alot of glue and i think i like it the way it is but i will think about the neck for future models
i also went and bought some more space marines like a tactical squad and another terminator box because i read somewhere that you need a hero if you want to play this game and i saw a picture of some sort of guy with a skull helmet unlike the rest of the marines and im working on making that hero in terminator armor because i like the way it looks
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oh that makes sense why so many are so happy in color if they want to be seen so that the enemy knows they are coming so they can fight but also stupid because the enemy can abuse that willingness to fight then i guess
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You need Rhinos. 35 + 15 for havok x2 will put you at 100 points.
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The hero you're looking for is a Terminator Chaplain.
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Space marines are 8ft tall superhuman warriors who have been trained from a young age. They can take missles to the chest and still fight. They can survive many things which would kill a normal person. The enemy seeing them isn't going to make much difference.
If you are planning on playing the game though you might want to buy yourself Assault on Black reach set as it has a small rule book and comes with quite a few things (Although you can't change their poses like you can with the other boxes) and you'll need to get yourself a Space Marine Codex.
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oh thanks!
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thats really cool that they are like supersoldiers who can take that damage and still fight like no business, whats that box i dont think the store im buying from had any of them but they did have plenty of other boxes like the space marine stuff i buyed and other races like tau who looked like anime soldiers, i think they had alot of books so is that what you mean with codex because i think i will go to store tomorrow again and buy the rules for the game
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Does it being black and white matter so much?
I mean, art style is an important part of the game, but it doesn't really judge how good the game is.
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It has an effect on it. Would something like Gears of War be the same if it was bright and colourful?
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Yes and Epic knew that so they busted out the 256 colour palette for 3.
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Yeah, that's pretty true.
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I started W40K when i was 10, back in 3rd edition. The majority of W40K content is not suitable for the younger players but as DMO is a game, to get as many players as possible it will have to be for them.
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