[sarevokh]

I was S.A.R.C.A.S.T.I.C.

[sirdownloadsalot]

sarevokh posted:

I was S.A.R.C.A.S.T.I.C.

That's not how Sarcasm works.

[Meatpuppet]

.FLAP.JACK.DAN. posted:

Isn't Half-Life 2 already on the source engine?

Are you honestly not sure if HL2 is on the source engine

[Milkyway M16]

Meatpuppet posted:

Are you honestly not sure if HL2 is on the source engine

What's the source engine?

[woolio1]

Milkyway M16 posted:

What's the source engine?

An updated version of the GoldSRC engine.

[uitham]

woolio1 posted:

An updated version of the GoldSRC engine.

What's the GoldSRC engine?
Edited:
Shit guys it is a joke just like milkyways post

[Marlamin]

uitham posted:

What's the GoldSRC engine?

Heavily modified Quake engine.

[Uesrname]

uitham posted:

What's the GoldSRC engine?

A modified version of the Quake Engine.

Clocks.

[sirdownloadsalot]

Marlamin posted:

Heavily modified Quake engine.

What's an engine?

[ashton93]

sirdownloadsalot posted:

What's an engine?

vroom vroom

[Partent Z]

ashton93 posted:

vroom vroom

What's a vroom vroom?

[SomeDumbShit]

Stop.

[LegndNikko]

calle7112 posted:

This is a post from Raminator some days ago.

"That's the thing, we've already tried all of this, and it got us nowhere. We tried doing frequent news updates; people complained. We tried doing large new updates; people complained. We tried setting up a devblog; people complained. We tried releasing video trailers; people complained. We tried setting up a YouTube channel; people complained. We tried setting up a Twitter account; people complained. Do you see where this is going?

No matter what we do, people are going to complain, so it makes the most sense to do nothing. We can't keep everyone happy, and it's a waste of development time to even try, especially at this late stage. We have more important things to do."

Now you know why they don't have the time to post updates.

That is an absolutely horrible reason. No, it does not make the most sense.
At all.
How do they even get to that conclusion?

[Warriorx4]

calle7112 posted:

This is a post from Raminator some days ago. "That's the thing, we've already tried all of this, and it got us nowhere. We tried doing frequent news updates; people complained. We tried doing large new updates; people complained. We tried setting up a devblog; people complained. We tried releasing video trailers; people complained. We tried setting up a YouTube channel; people complained. We tried setting up a Twitter account; people complained. Do you see where this is going? No matter what we do, people are going to complain, so it makes the most sense to do nothing. We can't keep everyone happy, and it's a waste of development time to even try, especially at this late stage. We have more important things to do." Now you know why they don't have the time to post updates.

So...they got into the video game business(or modification if you want to be technical), and totally didn't expect people to be unhappy? Of course people are gonna fucking complain, look at the entire video game industry jesus christ it's filled with unhappy fans who complain about bullshit all the time. This is a silly fucking reason not to update the fans in their progress.

Edited:

Been waiting on this thing since its inception, seven years en counting.

[TheJoey]

LegndNikko posted:

That is an absolutely horrible reason. No, it does not make the most sense.
At all.
How do they even get to that conclusion?

ram has always had this "well fuck you" super edgy attitude regarding the mod and its really immature

[Conro101]

sirdownloadsalot posted:

That's not how Sarcasm works.

I can vouch on this point

[Meatpuppet]

sarevokh posted:

I was S.A.R.C.A.S.T.I.C.

Sucking
Assholes
Roaming
Communication
Arrays
So
That
Iliad
Continues

[Conro101]

the Iliad broadcast can continue thanks to those assholes

[Megafan]

LegndNikko posted:

That is an absolutely horrible reason. No, it does not make the most sense.
At all.
How do they even get to that conclusion?

Basically, the mindset is "so long as one person is complaining about something at any point in time, I can't be bothered". Regardless of however many people think that it's good or aren't needlessly criticizing, as long as any one person complains, it's too many.

[Year_of_Lurking]

I think this mod is really held back by the dev's attitudes. Raminator is extremely entitled, and downright rude. They also seem to spend a lot of time dicking around (ie: 404 page joke images) instead of working.

[A big fat ass]

Nobody's a perfect developer. Got to let off steam some how.

[uitham]

A big fat ass posted:

Nobody's a perfect developer. Got to let off steam some how.

For the people who disagreed: I present to you, NOTCH!

But really, this whole
"IF I DO THIS, THEY COMPLAIN. IF I DO THAT, THEY COMPLAIN."
Is just bullshit.
There ALWAYS is a certain group that complains, GOOD developers ignore what people think and do what they want to do, or actually they only listen to the community if it actually is a good idea.

[.FLAP.JACK.DAN.]

uitham posted:

For the people who disagreed: I present to you, NOTCH!

But really, this whole
"IF I DO THIS, THEY COMPLAIN. IF I DO THAT, THEY COMPLAIN."
Is just bullshit.
There ALWAYS is a certain group that complains, GOOD developers ignore what people think and do what they want to do, or actually they only listen to the community if it actually is a good idea.

If I had to guess they couldn't take the criticism.

[Cone]

.FLAP.JACK.DAN. posted:

If I had to guess they couldn't take the criticism.

I wonder what would happen if the mod finally came out and it was shit.

The whole team would probably commit suicide.

[The freeman]

Year_of_Lurking posted:

I think this mod is really held back by the dev's attitudes. Raminator is extremely entitled, and downright rude. They also seem to spend a lot of time dicking around (ie: 404 page joke images) instead of working.

You do realize they are not a development company but just some people doing this in their spare time and they don't have to release it.

[sarevokh]

The freeman posted:

You do realize they are not a development company but just some people doing this in their spare time and they don't have to release it.

Come on, they've already gained thousand of dollars with the ads on their site and of official forums...

[.FLAP.JACK.DAN.]

sarevokh posted:

Come on, they've already gained thousand of dollars with the ads on their site and of official forums...

Those ads help pay for the forums. I don't think they make a significant amount of profit from them.

[ventnor]

the next official installment in the half-life series will probaly be released before this.

[Konti]

One of the devs about a hypothetical leak:

This time a leak would contain the full game, so there'd be very little point in finalizing the game for an official release. Instead, the team would more than likely disband.

[WhatTheEf]

Konti posted:

One of the devs about a hypothetical leak:

source ?

[The very best]

Remake HL2 in GoldSrc

[shad0w440]

The very best posted:

Remake HL2 in GoldSrc

http://www.moddb.com/forum/thread/ha...src-recruiting

[UntouchedShadow]

calle7112 posted:

No matter what we do, people are going to complain, so it makes the most sense to do nothing.

By that logic, they should stop making the game entirely. If nobody seems to like it, why bother continuing it?

The attitude of the devs is fucking horrendous.

[Antimuffin]

JamesKane posted:

The Mod was not leaked from what we can tell.

http://forums.blackmesasource.com/sh...5&postcount=16

UntouchedShadow posted:

By that logic, they should stop making the game entirely. If nobody seems to like it, why bother continuing it?

Because, what they have shown (Trailer, screenshots) is fucking good?

[Killer900]

Swebonny posted:

Imagine if this delay is just because they are waiting for valve to finish hl3/ep3 so they can ship it in a bundle.

I can believe that

[Neo Kabuto]

Konti posted:

One of the devs about a hypothetical leak:

I've honestly never understood this attitude on leaks. If it was a commercial project, I'd understand management forcing it, but for a mod I can't see why people wanting what you've made too much is a real reason to just give up entirely.

[.FLAP.JACK.DAN.]

Konti posted:

One of the devs about a hypothetical leak:

Man that is one negative team. Though honestly if it got leaked and it was very near complete and they just game up I would lose all respect for them.

[TheJoey]

The freeman posted:

You do realize they are not a development company but just some people doing this in their spare time and they don't have to release it.

yeah we know, ram has said it whenever he's reminded.

p.s. alpha/beta leaks are good for popularity* if your product is good. the devs/forum mods should probably shut up and either relish in a possible new found spike in attention to their mod, or secretly help push that video and those screenshots around anonymously.

See Half-Life alpha.


*(not full/finished game leaks. see world of goo)

[EarlCdwards]

aren't some of these people making this mod as a means of getting noticed and landing a job in the industry

because the attitude isn't really going to help

[UntouchedShadow]

Antimuffin posted:

Because, what they have shown (Trailer, screenshots) is fucking good?

Yah, but if no one likes it and they all complain about it then why should they waste their time making the game which no one seems to like?

I'm just going by their logic and attitude.