1. Post #2361
    _Axel's Avatar
    September 2009
    2,151 Posts
    Here I come to read about news on BMS and people complaining and instead I find a discussion on that awful mod
    Damn, I don't see the purpose of checking facepunch first to see if there is any valuable information about BMS.

    You have a twitter account?? "Follow" Black Mesa.
    You have a Facebook account? "Like" Black Mesa.

    Every dozen of posts, there is a jerk posting "oh hi, I've seen posts, I thought news or release, well I'm disappointed". Well, okay, understood (for the millionth time).
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  2. Post #2362
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    Dennab
    April 2010
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    The water looks like something imported from goldsrc.
    Wait, that's water?
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  3. Post #2363
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    Wait, that's water?
    it's shit-water is what it is

    speaking of which, you have to wonder why a caustic and apparently radioactive canal full of this shit-water burns clean through a suit designed for exploring crazy-ass places like Xen but apparently can't damage the plastic sheathing on the underside of an airboat built from taps and rusty spoons
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  4. Post #2364
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    June 2010
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    it's shit-water is what it is

    speaking of which, you have to wonder why a caustic and apparently radioactive canal full of this shit-water burns clean through a suit designed for exploring crazy-ass places like Xen but apparently can't damage the plastic sheathing on the underside of an airboat built from taps and rusty spoons
    It's weird, sure, but it's there as a gameplay mechanic.
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  5. Post #2365
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    October 2010
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    it's shit-water is what it is

    speaking of which, you have to wonder why a caustic and apparently radioactive canal full of this shit-water burns clean through a suit designed for exploring crazy-ass places like Xen but apparently can't damage the plastic sheathing on the underside of an airboat built from taps and rusty spoons
    I'd imagine the suit is alerting Gordon to danger because he doesn't have his helmet to provide full protection. Even Valve's official HL2 art shows him without it, so we can assume he lacks it.
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  6. Post #2366
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    March 2006
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    it's shit-water is what it is

    speaking of which, you have to wonder why a caustic and apparently radioactive canal full of this shit-water burns clean through a suit designed for exploring crazy-ass places like Xen but apparently can't damage the plastic sheathing on the underside of an airboat built from taps and rusty spoons
    The same way a 9mm pistol can penetrate several inches of heavy body armour, but is stopped dead by a cm thick piece of sheet metal.

    Edited:

    I'd imagine the suit is alerting Gordon to danger because he doesn't have his helmet to provide full protection. Even Valve's official HL2 art shows him without it, so we can assume he lacks it.
    He does have a helmet, it's just not in concept art because it obscures his iconic face. If he truly lacked a helmet, then he would have died of severe radiation poisoning within seconds of entering the Citadel Core chamber.
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  7. Post #2367
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    The same way a 9mm pistol can penetrate several inches of heavy body armour, but is stopped dead by a cm thick piece of sheet metal.

    Edited:



    He does have a helmet, it's just not in concept art because it obscures his iconic face. If he truly lacked a helmet, then he would have died of severe radiation poisoning within seconds of entering the Citadel Core chamber.
    Well, when you put the Hev Suit on in HL1 and 2, you don't see a helmet on the suit.
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  8. Post #2368
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    The same way a 9mm pistol can penetrate several inches of heavy body armour, but is stopped dead by a cm thick piece of sheet metal.

    Edited:



    He does have a helmet, it's just not in concept art because it obscures his iconic face. If he truly lacked a helmet, then he would have died of severe radiation poisoning within seconds of entering the Citadel Core chamber.
    he doesn't wear a helmet what are you smoking. even the retail cover shows that.

    Edited:

    and actually i agree, why the fuck does the canal water damage freeman even though the suit is made exactly for the purpose of stopping that? it's a Hazardous Environment V (i don't know what the V stands for lol, maybe vest). but oh well, hl2 is a great game anyways.
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  9. Post #2369
    Dennab
    June 2012
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    he doesn't wear a helmet what are you smoking. even the retail cover shows that.

    Edited:

    and actually i agree, why the fuck does the canal water damage freeman even though the suit is made exactly for the purpose of stopping that? it's a Hazardous Environment V (i don't know what the V stands for lol, maybe vest). but oh well, hl2 is a great game anyways.
    The V in HEV stsnds for -vironment. Because the E stands for the En-. So, that's why it's just Hazardous Environment suit.
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  10. Post #2370
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    October 2009
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    he doesn't wear a helmet what are you smoking. even the retail cover shows that.

    Edited:

    and actually i agree, why the fuck does the canal water damage freeman even though the suit is made exactly for the purpose of stopping that? it's a Hazardous Environment V (i don't know what the V stands for lol, maybe vest). but oh well, hl2 is a great game anyways.
    It's a roman numeral
    Haz Suit Mark V
    Mark 5
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  11. Post #2371
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    Dennab
    June 2007
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    It's a roman numeral
    Haz Suit Mark V
    Mark 5
    The HEV MK IV was called "HEV" as well, so I don't really think that works. It might be Hazardous Environment Suit.
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  12. Post #2372
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    It's a roman numeral
    Haz Suit Mark V
    Mark 5
    The HEV Mark V
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  13. Post #2373
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    October 2010
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    and actually i agree, why the fuck does the canal water damage freeman even though the suit is made exactly for the purpose of stopping that? it's a Hazardous Environment V (i don't know what the V stands for lol, maybe vest). but oh well, hl2 is a great game anyways.
    Like I suggested, since the suit can apparently check the vitals of the person wearing it maybe it can tell that he's not wearing his helmet and it warns him of the damage being done to him
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  14. Post #2374
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    October 2009
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    The HEV Mark V
    That's not the point. V means 5
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  15. Post #2375
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    That's not the point. V means 5
    no

    Hazardous EnVironment suit mark five
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  16. Post #2376
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    June 2007
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    That's not the point. V means 5
    I took a photo of my Half Life manual (Which is signed!!) just to prove you wrong.



    (This is when it's a Mark IV suit)
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  17. Post #2377
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    August 2009
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    http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/HEV_Suit

    The HEV Suit,[1] or Hazardous Environment suit, often called the "hazard suit" for sake of convenience, is a full-body hazardous materials suit developed at the Black Mesa Research Facility, designed for Black Mesa scientists to protect them from radiation, energy discharges, and blunt-force trauma during the handling of hazardous materials and to protect them from the effects of traveling to Xen as part of Survey Teams.
    I mean, for sake of consistency I think it's safe to go with Hazardous Environment Suit. Still, googling "EV" and searching for "EV" on Wikipedia never brings up Environment.

    EDIT: You ninja.
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  18. Post #2378
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    October 2009
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    ...Ooooooh, he was mixing up HEV with what he said, riiiight...
    I thought I remember Kleiner saying Mark 5, and, so...

    Gotcha. I was wrong. Sorry!
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  19. Post #2379
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    June 2012
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    That's not the point. V means 5
    You don't read roman numeral 5 out loud as "V" If that were true, when you slip on the suit it would say

    "Welcome, to the H. E. 5"

    It doesn't, in HL1 it says

    "Welcome, to the HEV Mark IV hazardous Environment suit..."

    The "V" in HEV was never meant to be a 5
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  20. Post #2380
    Michael Bay Christus
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    October 2010
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    Last week we were arguing about Gordon's ponytail, this week over if the V is for (EnVironment Suit, or 5.

    I wonder what next week will be? What Gordon's prescription is for his glasses?
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  21. Post #2381
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    November 2009
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    Last week we were arguing about Gordon's ponytail, this week over if the V is for (EnVironment Suit, or 5.

    I wonder what next week will be? What Gordon's prescription is for his glasses?
    He has no prescription. They're just those cheap "reading glasses" you buy at corner stores.
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  22. Post #2382
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    March 2006
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    "Welcome, to the HEV Mark IV protective system, for use in hazardous environment conditions..."
    Fixed it
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  23. Post #2383

    April 2011
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    No news from the BMS forums?
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  24. Post #2384
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    March 2012
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    He has no prescription. They're just those cheap "reading glasses" you buy at corner stores.
    Mr. Friendly was designed to be able to pound the ground, knocking off Gordon's glasses and making his vision blurry.
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  25. Post #2385
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    June 2012
    171 Posts
    Its 2012 and not released, wasn't this annouced in 2008 or 2009? Since then I was worrying if my PC could handle it, but now my new one can. Hopefully it will still be worth the wait.
    My PC can handle HL2 or CS:S on max except water and AA, won't this be the same graphics? I thought that I cannot be afraid of my PC not handling this
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  26. Post #2386
    _Axel's Avatar
    September 2009
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    Mr. Friendly was designed to be able to pound the ground, knocking off Gordon's glasses and making his vision blurry.
    That's an interesting mechanic. I never thought about Gordon's glasses when playing, that would have been a great element of surprise.
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  27. Post #2387
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    March 2012
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    It was scrapped because it would have been hard to do with the Goldsrc engine.

    And I know that's late, I was just saying that he probably doesn't have reading glasses if everything would be blurry when he takes them off (even though they do look sort of like cheap dollar store glasses).
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  28. Post #2388
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    October 2009
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    You don't read roman numeral 5 out loud as "V" If that were true, when you slip on the suit it would say

    "Welcome, to the H. E. 5"

    It doesn't, in HL1 it says

    "Welcome, to the HEV Mark IV hazardous Environment suit..."

    The "V" in HEV was never meant to be a 5
    Yeah, I know. I thought he meant like HEV mark V, not HE V. Alrighty. Let's go back to the bullsquid, now, shall we.
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  29. Post #2389
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    March 2012
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    'Welcome to the H.E.V Mark IV protective system, for use in hazardous environment conditons.'

    I wonder if Gman's case will have the briefcase and gun and stuff that it had in HL1.
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  30. Post #2390
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    March 2006
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    Well, when you put the Hev Suit on in HL1 and 2, you don't see a helmet on the suit.
    Okay new theory, Gordon is a ghoul so he's just immune to radiation.
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  31. Post #2391
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    March 2012
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    Your vision would be tinted if you had the helmet on, though. Gordon has a completely clear viewpoint, no blockers or anything.
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  32. Post #2392
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    March 2006
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    Your vision would be tinted if you had the helmet on, though. Gordon has a completely clear viewpoint, no blockers or anything.
    I think that's the most ridiculous argument I've heard so far.
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  33. Post #2393
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    July 2010
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    I think that's the most ridiculous argument I've heard so far.
    Gordon doesn't wear a helmet. Look at the fucking art for the game.
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  34. Post #2394
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    Gordon doesn't wear a helmet. Look at the fucking art for the game.
    please explain how he survived the radiation in the citadels core chamber
    or how he survived xen when all other hev units sent there had helmets on them
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  35. Post #2395
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    Then by that helmet logic, Gordon doesn't wear glasses because his entire filed of view is clear, people who wear glasses know that it's all blurry outside the lenses. That would be a feature I'd like to see in the next game, or in any game really. Can we just accept that Gordon can see the Combine?

    And above, Xen Fauna had no issue between Earth and Xen, therefore, the atmospheres are similar, and Barney went there too, he didn't wear any kind of full facial shield respirator contraption, just his standard issue helmet. (Which I'm not sure if I'm alone in this, but BS was very lacking in armor, I swear there was next to none.) The Citadel radiation is harder to explain though, but in neither game do we see a helmet with Gordon's suit.
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  36. Post #2396
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    Then by that helmet logic, Gordon doesn't wear glasses because his entire filed of view is clear, people who wear glasses know that it's all blurry outside the lenses. That would be a feature I'd like to see in the next game, or in any game really. Can we just accept that Gordon can see the Combine?
    As I recall there was going to be an enemy in HL1 that would have been able to knock Gordon's glasses off/askew, but then they realized that it would have sucked from a gameplay standpoint.
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  37. Post #2397
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    And above, Xen Fauna had no issue between Earth and Xen, therefore, the atmospheres are similar, and Barney went there too, he didn't wear any kind of full facial shield respirator contraption, just his standard issue helmet. (Which I'm not sure if I'm alone in this, but BS was very lacking in armor, I swear there was next to none.)
    This I can agree with, Xen is survivable without a helmet. There's even a Scientist in lab coat there in the first game, for whatever reason.
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  38. Post #2398
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    Is there really THAT much radiation in the citadel core? The stalkers do fine in there and I doubt they can take much more than a normal human (though I'm sure the radiation eventually kills them off after extended exposure and they are replaced)
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  39. Post #2399
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    October 2008
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    Gordon's suit could've protected him enough that the radiation wasn't damaging, like lead blankets for an X-Ray, on a much bigger and more lethal scale.
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  40. Post #2400
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    Mr. Friendly was designed to be able to pound the ground, knocking off Gordon's glasses and making his vision blurry.
    Mr. Friendly was designed to pound more than the ground.
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