[Crpto2007]

All guards used to be an adventurer like you, until they all took an arrow in the knee....

[mikester112]

The very best posted:

Imperials are cooler in general (Especially because the main guys voice (What's his name again) is voiced by the greatest voice actor ever) But they lack that epic feeling of being the underdog of the war.

General Tulius, badass fucker gave me a daedric sword.

[Yadda]

I tried to film a panning timelapse, I don't think it went over as well as it could have been, but I think it's worth posting.

It's still processing

[dogmachines]

mikester112 posted:

General Tulius, badass fucker gave me a daedric sword.

Lucky bastard. All I got was glass. Twice.

And am I the only one gets promoted and hears "here's a new weapon to signify your new rank" only to receive a Dwarven Shield or something similar?

[Average User]

I thought    the blades were cool, then they're like "YO GO KILL PAARTHURNAX". Lost all repect for them. Fuckers. Paarthurnax is the coolest dragon ever   

[johnlmonkey]

Crpto2007 posted:

All guards used to be an adventurer like you, until they all took an arrow in the knee....

Get out, now.

[dogmachines]

Average User posted:

I thought    the blades were cool, then they're like "YO GO KILL PAARTHURNAX". Lost all repect for them. Fuckers. Paarthurnax is the coolest dragon ever   

When they asked me that it reminded me of when Arngeir said    "they may claim to serve the dragonborn, but they do not"   . They won't even let you into the blades unless you serve THEM.

[Average User]

dogmachines posted:

When they asked me that it reminded me of when Arngeir said    "they may claim to serve the dragonborn, but they do not"   . They won't even let you into the blades unless you serve THEM.

   Needless to say, I used unrelenting force and blew the bitch off the mountain. I let Esbern live though, he's okay, kinda.   

[UntouchedShadow]

I found the Skyrim equivalent of Fallout: New Vegas' Badass Test.

[Scarbo]

Average User posted:

I thought    the blades were cool, then they're like "YO GO KILL PAARTHURNAX". Lost all repect for them. Fuckers. Paarthurnax is the coolest dragon ever   

I didn't even hear them say that until the second playthrough, and then I just thought "fuck off" and never heard from them again.

[Gilboron]

HawkeyeTy posted:

What the fuck!

I was strolling around The Pale, right near Winterhold clearing out dungeons and forts and shit and I see a group of people getting mauled by a bear, I run in there and dice the bear up and look to see if it was hunters, bandits, imperials, or whoever.

It was the fucking companions, Farkas, Ria, and Torvor. In fucking Winterhold region. That's not even near the odd part. I nearly shit myself when I saw Torvor, he was half embedded in the ground, nude and spazzing out while following wherever Farkas and Ria went.

Every time I try talking to him he just says "Ahhh my old drinkin' buddy, let's go grab some mead!"

Now you may be wondering
"Why would you freak out over a glitch."

I fucking killed off Torvor accidentally almost immediately after completing the Companion quests while collecting the Gauldur amulet fragments.
I hadn't seen him in like 2 weeks. He was still nude from when I looted his corpse, strangely enough the only time I've felt bad about looting someone. Me and Torvor had slain dragons and cleared atleast 15 dungeons together, he was badass. Nadja Stonearm only lasted me like 2 caves, but I was happy to watch that loudmouth bitch die.

The only time I've ever felt bad for killing a character in a game, and you throw him back at me all mangled up in a glitch, asking me to go drinking with him?

Fuck you Skyrim.
Fuck you.

Sounds like creepypasta potential to me.

[Average User]

J'zargo = best companion.

[NoShogun]

redBadger posted:

Quick question:

   Stormcloaks or Imperials?    and why?

It's really strange how the Stormcloak/Imperial thing works out for me.

I like the Stormcloak cause and am sort of sympathetic because they are the underdogs, but every individual Stormcloak i've met ingame has been, at the very least, annoying. And many of them -- including Ulfric, their leader -- are huge wet troll cocks.

Empire, on the other hand, has a cause that sounds ominous and evil but most Imperial characters are actually reasonable, decent people.

   In a way, the Empire is almost objectively the "good guy" as they're trying to stop Skyrim from being taken over by a bunch of violent, racist/ethnocentric rebels   

[Gen]

Crpto2007 posted:

All guards used to be an adventurer like you, until they all took an arrow in the knee....

[Lambeth]

leach139 posted:

So I finally got around to picking up Skyrim yesterday, and it's just finished downloading. What essential mods do you guys suggest picking up? I've heard about the UI mod that makes it suck less, should I get that? I'm not fussed about super duper graphics, I'm probably only playing on High.

I would wait until the creation kit comes out proper until installing any mods. Also that rad as hell steamworks mod integration

[Darth Hater]

I can't wait for a civil war overhaul. Bethesda was just plain lazy in this, more so then usual. No excuse. There should have been 4 or 5 battle of whiterun like sequences. And the siege of Windhelm should have been huge a massive LOTR scale battle outside the city first, slowly making your way inside it.

It would have been cool to sneak into the Solitude docks with an army of Stormcloaks in a fleet of stolen East Empire company ships. There are a ton of other things that could happen, and because it won't require a whole lot of voice acting, the hardest thing to do for quests, it would be entirely possible to turn the civil war into an epic questline.

[hypno-toad]

Crpto2007 posted:

All guards used to be an adventurer like you, until they all took an arrow in the knee....

We're watching you, scum.

[BananaFoam]

The Empire has a lot of good intentions and good people, trying to protect Skyrim from the real baddies (the Thalmor. I always, always hate elves in every RPG I play. Whether it be that they're tree hugging hippy cunts or cowardly snipers) and trying to unify the world and bring peace.

The Stormcloaks are still good people in a way, but they are very racist towards any people who are not nords. But you do have to feel sorry for them, they are controlled by a crumbling, dying empire and are forced to exclude their greatest hero and god from their worshiping because some elvish bastards told them not to and the Empire was to much of a pussy to fight to the last man.

In a sense, both sides have their good's and bad's and neither can claim the moral high-ground. I still sided with the Stormcloaks just because I liked being the underdog, and it seemed pretty cool at first.

Then came the attack on Whiterun. I was one of the most prestigous members of the community, a full-on companion who had done many things to aid the people. But suddenly I am forced to fight them all for the honor of Skyrim or some bullshit. My heart sank when the Jarl looked at me and said "...and you, a Stormcloak! And to think I thought so much better of you!".

One other thing that made me side with the Stormcloaks though was that everyone in all the Imperial towns treated me like ass (except neutral towns like Whiterun.)

I just finished the entire war with a Stormcloak victory.

Also, I like the idea of the Elder Scrolls games getting better technology. I don't want it to turn into fucking CoD or anything, but it would be interesting to see how they utilize alchemy, magic, and technology in harmony.

[NoShogun]

Better tech... maybe. I just don't think Bethesda's ever going to implement anything like a gun into their games (I personally would hate guns in TES, but I get that some people would think they're fun)

Mainly because: why change a winning formula? People pick up TES games expecting an open world swords 'n sorcery RPG, not a renaissance FPS.

Plus, from a gameplay standpoint, they'd be really hard to balance. Old guns like that were wildly inaccurate. So what's bethesda to do? Make them inaccurate and frustrate players with bullets based on luck, or make them accurate and either overpowered or balanced and therefore weaker than a gunshot should be?

[hypno-toad]

dogmachines posted:

I doubt any guns will ever show up. In the 200+ years since Morrowind/Oblivion technology hasn't made any advances, the only thing with a major change is magic. The Elder Scrolls universe is forever stuck in the same period of technology.

Actually technology apparently regressed since morrowind because crossbows are gone, and the dwarven ruins in skyrim no longer have transistors, coherers or ambient mains hum :(

Though I suppose the second one could be explained in a lore-friendly way. Crossbows and Throwing weapons (throwing axes, stars, etc) would have been pretty cool in oblivion or skyrim.

[Gilboron]

I would enjoy a third party spin-off game or something that's based on Elder Scrolls lore but in a more modern setting. I would pay to have an Argonian film noir detective or something.

[BananaFoam]

NoShogun posted:

Better tech... maybe. I just don't think Bethesda's ever going to implement anything like a gun into their games (I personally would hate guns in TES, but I get that some people would think they're fun)

Mainly because: why change a winning formula? People pick up TES games expecting an open world swords 'n sorcery RPG, not a renaissance FPS.

Plus, from a gameplay standpoint, they'd be really hard to balance. Old guns like that were wildly inaccurate. So what's bethesda to do? Make them inaccurate and frustrate players with bullets based on luck, or make them accurate and either overpowered or balanced and therefore weaker than a gunshot should be?

I already thought of this. I think the idea of a generic musket-like gun is limiting and rather stupid. I always thought of something like an upgraded crossbow and magically detonated grenades.

Basically I mean the game would need to put a spin on technology that we have and make it something original. A gun that fires bees may sound stupid, but I would take it over another generic musket.

And there's no problem with making gunshots weaker. It's not like the game needs realism. People already take way more abuse in the Elder Scrolls games than they could IRL.

Edited:
I'm sure they could work in the Dwemer somehow with the technological progression.

[fskman]

hypno-toad posted:

Actually technology apparently regressed since morrowind because crossbows are gone, and the dwarven ruins in skyrim no longer have transistors, coherers or ambient mains hum :(

Though I suppose the second one could be explained in a lore-friendly way. Crossbows and Throwing weapons (throwing axes, stars, etc) would have been pretty cool in oblivion or skyrim.

Since the Dwemer homeland was Vvardenfall, I guess it would be easy to say the strongholds there were cutting edge, unlike the ones spread across the continent.

[TaZz_RyAn]

I heard that there was a glitch where if you clear out an area like a cave and you later get a mission to kill someone in the same cave that the mission gets glitched and you can not finish it. So is that bug fixed? I'm kind of afraid to explore dungeons because of it.

[G71tc4]

I think i've found my biggest issue with Skyrim. It's the engine. (So this applies tenfold to the other gamebryo games.)

Bethesda have great ambitions for the experience, they really do. A grand adventure of one man setting out to stop the end of the world at the hand of an ancient menace. It sounds great on paper, and it would be an amazing experienced if it played out in the Unreal Engine, the Cryengine, or hell, even the Source engine. But the action in Skyrim plays out more like a chess game than a video game. If you replaced all human hitboxes with the hitboxes of a damn tree, i wouldn't know the difference until somebody told me. Imagining a scene of a character running away from a dragon, it should play out as a warrior on a fierce retreat from a deadly monster. It plays out like a block sliding across the ground away from another larger block that's trying to process how it'll get 5 feet to the right. When i really try to comprehend what this game is similar to, it really relates to Dungeons and Dragons. Half of the fun i have in the game is up to me to create. In my head, i'm diving behind boulders, shouting with all my might, and fighting for my life. In the game, im waiting for the dragon to land, whacking at it, then repeating.

When im playing the game, i feel like it's dependent on me to make it interesting. Half of the (billion) Nordic dungeons i ventured into, i had forgotten why about 5 feet in the door. I had to look at the quest, think about it, and rationalize why it was so important, because the game itself hadn't instilled a sense of importance to me. But then again, it's hard to keep drama and suspense maintained when you can walk away from the task at any moment and never return.

[Arvuti]

Damn, next week skyrim is going to be 2 months old already. Time sure flies.

[Gay Greek Guy]

Skyrim must be the biggest stinker of 2011, it truly feels like grinding when a quest sends me off to another dungeon crawl

oblivion was way better.

Edited:

G71tc4 posted:

I think i've found my biggest issue with Skyrim. It's the engine. (So this applies tenfold to the other gamebryo games.)

Bethesda have great ambitions for the experience, they really do. A grand adventure of one man setting out to stop the end of the world at the hand of an ancient menace. It sounds great on paper, and it would be an amazing experienced if it played out in the Unreal Engine, the Cryengine, or hell, even the Source engine. But the action in Skyrim plays out more like a chess game than a video game. If you replaced all human hitboxes with the hitboxes of a damn tree, i wouldn't know the difference until somebody told me. Imagining a scene of a character running away from a dragon, it should play out as a warrior on a fierce retreat from a deadly monster. It plays out like a block sliding across the ground away from another larger block that's trying to process how it'll get 5 feet to the right. When i really try to comprehend what this game is similar to, it really relates to Dungeons and Dragons. Half of the fun i have in the game is up to me to create. In my head, i'm diving behind boulders, shouting with all my might, and fighting for my life. In the game, im waiting for the dragon to land, whacking at it, then repeating.

When im playing the game, i feel like it's dependent on me to make it interesting. Half of the (billion) Nordic dungeons i ventured into, i had forgotten why about 5 feet in the door. I had to look at the quest, think about it, and rationalize why it was so important, because the game itself hadn't instilled a sense of importance to me. But then again, it's hard to keep drama and suspense maintained when you can walk away from the task at any moment and never return.

having a terrible animation staff limits the directions a story can take, take the witcher for example - without those beautiful animations it would be a broken game

[The very best]

Average User posted:

I thought    the blades were cool, then they're like "YO GO KILL PAARTHURNAX". Lost all repect for them. Fuckers. Paarthurnax is the coolest dragon ever   

I was lucky I went to    Kill him right before making a new save, only to find the quest disappeared.    

Edited:

Gay Greek Guy posted:

Skyrim must be the biggest stinker of 2011, it truly feels like grinding when a quest sends me off to another dungeon crawl

oblivion was way better.

I agree with the dungeon issue, but no. Oblivion had some cool quests and all, but overall; it wasn't THAT fantastic. Skyrim holds up on its own better.

[Gay Greek Guy]

The very best posted:

I was lucky I went to    Kill him right before making a new save, only to find the quest disappeared.    

Edited:



I agree with the dungeon issue, but no. Oblivion had some cool quests and all, but overall; it wasn't THAT fantastic. Skyrim holds up on its own better.

Oblivion was saved by having solid guild quest lines. Skyrim has your character doing randomly generated dungeon grinds when the 30 minute long crawl from newcomer to leader is finished. (spoilers: you become the leader of every guild you join)

[Arvuti]

Gay Greek Guy posted:

Oblivion was saved by having solid guild quest lines, Skyrim had your thief / assassin character doing randomly generated NPC - killing quests when the 30 minute long main quest line ended.

30 minute long main quest line ?

[The very best]

Gay Greek Guy posted:

Oblivion was saved by having solid guild quest lines. Skyrim has your character doing randomly generated dungeon grinds when the 30 minute long crawl from newcomer to leader is finished. (spoilers: you become the leader of every guild you join)

I.. Uh.. What? Are we playing the same skyrim?

[ewitwins]

Why has Bethesda not taken a hint and just either started a new engine or, in my opinion the more intelligent choice, simply purchased the right to use another engine?

It just seems ridiculous.

[Gay Greek Guy]

fixed my wording

[coco911231]

fskman posted:

Since the Dwemer homeland was Vvardenfall, I guess it would be easy to say the strongholds there were cutting edge, unlike the ones spread across the continent.

Remember, the strongholds in Skyrim have large ballistas with exploding arrow traps, so it really does come down to bethesda being lazy

[Aredbomb]

hypno-toad posted:

Actually technology apparently regressed since morrowind because crossbows are gone, and the dwarven ruins in skyrim no longer have transistors, coherers or ambient mains hum :(

Though I suppose the second one could be explained in a lore-friendly way. Crossbows and Throwing weapons (throwing axes, stars, etc) would have been pretty cool in oblivion or skyrim.

Well it would be possible to explain the technological regression in Skyrim, since the empire's weak, one could argue that there simply aren't many people who know how to make crossbows at the time, especially in a war-torn Provence they're struggling to keep hold of. It's a stretch, but it sort of explains it.

There's no way to explain it in Oblivion, though.

[coco911231]

ewitwins posted:

Why has Bethesda not taken a hint and just either started a new engine or, in my opinion the more intelligent choice, simply purchased the right to use another engine?

It just seems ridiculous.

"were used to gamebyro"

[Darth Hater]

ewitwins posted:

Why has Bethesda not taken a hint and just either started a new engine or, in my opinion the more intelligent choice, simply purchased the right to use another engine?

It just seems ridiculous.

Because they don't have to. In case you haven't noticed Bethesda is possibly the laziest company ever. How about they use the fuck loads of money they're getting from skyrim and hire some decent writers and some people that can do animations. If they can put out two quality story driven DLCs and provide some characters with depth skyrim might last as long as oblivion did.

[Boba_Fett]

Too much Imperial propaganda here.

Stormcloaks 4E 2012

[Arvuti]

I love how people say that Bethesda is lazy, eventhough the development team of skyrim worked their ass off for several years on it. Getting a new engine wouldn't make things magically better and well gamebyro seems like a decent engine to handle a big open world.

[Gay Greek Guy]

Arvuti posted:

I love how people say that Bethesda is lazy, eventhough the development team of skyrim worked their ass off for several years on it. Getting a new engine wouldn't make things magically better and well gamebyro seems like a decent engine to handle a big open world.

I wonder what they were doing for those several years. Skyrim can be summed up in one word - repetitive.