1. Post #281
    Checkers's Avatar
    February 2011
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    sweaty neckbeards don't have the drive to compete in tournaments
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  2. Post #282
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    Wingedwizard's Avatar
    October 2007
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    sweaty neckbeards don't have the drive to compete in tournaments
    Yea they do. They just get in a fuss when they dont win.
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  3. Post #283
    CaptainDraco's Avatar
    October 2011
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    I've never done EV training since Pearl and Platinum because they have a counter on the poketch (a.k.a. I'm too lazy to keep track), should I do it after I finished White for the 5th time?
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  4. Post #284
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    July 2006
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    Well they're going to win because they'll just abuse banned smogon strategies that require overspecialisation to counter.

    I mean who's going to have an answer for speed boost blaziken?

    Edited:

    I've never done EV training since Pearl and Platinum because they have a counter on the poketch (a.k.a. I'm too lazy to keep track), should I do it after I finished White for the 5th time?
    No point EV training except if you're playing against other people.

    If you don't EV train then it's unfair. (even if both dont ev train, because then whoever randomly got the better stat spread will have a better pokemon)
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  5. Post #285
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    October 2011
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    Edited:

    No point EV training except if you're playing against other people.

    If you don't EV train then it's unfair. (even if both dont ev train, because then whoever randomly got the better stat spread will have a better pokemon)
    Thats the point, I want to start battling other people.
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  6. Post #286
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    October 2007
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    Gotta breed 31/30 statlines.
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  7. Post #287
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    October 2011
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    Actually I've decided against doing the nuzlocke challenge. It's too easy.

    quick someone make up a new challenge!

    Edited:

    also why does everyone like gliscor
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  8. Post #288
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    February 2008
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    Have a spiffy Gliscor that I drew
    GIMP decided to fuck up in the middle of doing the line art so I just ended up spamming the line tool in photoshop instead
    Came out better then expected


    Ignore the "SBX '11" thing, I just use that for deviantart
    And then I forgot it's 2012 so I just crossed out the second 1 and wrote 2...
    That's still really good. Also you said you use GIMP and photoshop, have you also tried Paint Tool SAI before? Personally I found it to be a really amazing piece of software for drawing.
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  9. Post #289
    Quite so, ol' chap.
    Dominicus's Avatar
    December 2011
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    Actually I've decided against doing the nuzlocke challenge. It's too easy.

    quick someone make up a new challenge!

    Edited:

    also why does everyone like gliscor
    Do the bro-quest? Only male Pokémon? And you could pretend you find shopping something girls do and you never buy anything from a shop.
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  10. Post #290
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    October 2011
    163 Posts
    Do the bro-quest? Only male Pokémon? And you could pretend you find shopping something girls do and you never buy anything from a shop.
    Nah. Not something I feel like doing. I think I'll just do a quick playthrough then start learning how to EV train due to that being something I want to do.
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  11. Post #291
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    October 2007
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    Actually I've decided against doing the nuzlocke challenge. It's too easy.

    quick someone make up a new challenge!

    Edited:

    also why does everyone like gliscor
    Because years ago I got a shiny one as a gift with 31/30 stats, proper EVs and ability and it kicked ass, becoming my favorite Pokemon really fast.
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  12. Post #292
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    October 2011
    163 Posts
    What do you mean by 31/30 stats. Is this IV training. That always seemed too complicated for me.
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  13. Post #293
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    October 2007
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    It is. Requires a lot of breeding or luck to get those stats.

    Its the base stats, affecting the amount it has at level 100.


    If you want to play competitively, use PO, its a fuckton easier.
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  14. Post #294
    it's easy just apply yourself for a bit and you can figure it out
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  15. Post #295
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    October 2007
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    Its like min/maxing to above and beyond.

    Edited:

    automerge
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  16. Post #296
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    September 2011
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    It is. Requires a lot of breeding or luck to get those stats.

    Its the base stats, affecting the amount it has at level 100.


    If you want to play competitively, use PO, its a fuckton easier.
    I'm not sure if I really want to get into competitive battling. Maybe I could try to get into it later. I remember I once did for a little while.
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  17. Post #297
    That's still really good. Also you said you use GIMP and photoshop, have you also tried Paint Tool SAI before? Personally I found it to be a really amazing piece of software for drawing.
    Thanks.
    I've heard of it but never really bothered to try, because I usually tend to stick with vectors and cell shaded things instead of painting-like stuff. vv
    I probably will eventually.
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  18. Post #298
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    July 2006
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    OC
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  19. Post #299
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    June 2010
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    Would any of you like to have a quick wi-fi battle in the next 5 hours?

    I need to see how I fare againt a sentient being instead of an AI.

    Just one core rule I'd like seen.

    Use a team of any six Pokemon, your favourites if you wanna.

    But keep the ubers away. They're no fun.

    As rule of thumb, under 560 max base stat total?
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  20. Post #300
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    July 2006
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    nidoking was already my favorite pokémon


    now he's my double favorite
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  21. Post #301
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    July 2010
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    There's a small tournament going on at my local EB.

    I have a feeling in my gut it's going to go like this:
    50% kids under 15 using nothing but Legandaries and Ubers
    25% people like me, sort of intermediate, using their favourite pokemon but with good movesets and basic EV training and IV breeding
    25% sweaty neckbeards wielding a team of speed boost blaziken, garchomp, scizor, and shit like that which are perfectly bred and trained and will basically beat the shit out of everyone else.

    So I'll go in, beat up some little kids then get owned by a spherical ball of anime and fat.
    Fixed it.
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  22. Post #302
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    July 2006
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    Legendaries are banned, ubers arent.
    Kids arent smart enough to know which pokemon are ubers. The sweaty neckbeards do.
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  23. Post #303
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    July 2010
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    Oh good. They put rules in. That should help a bit. I see Ubers as mostly dragons and rock types, so do you have a strong ice type or water type with ice attacks?
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  24. Post #304
    Who wants to come to the aquarium later and watch me screw with the sharks?
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    May 2009
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    I mean who's going to have an answer for speed boost blaziken?
    Azumarill and Floatzel both OHKO Blaziken with Aqua Jet and are both amazingly useful Pokémon in their own rights. Just never bring them out til' the opponent sends out his 'ziken, wait for something to faint, then OHKO that oversized KFC.
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  25. Post #305
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    June 2010
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    Azumarill and Floatzel both OHKO Blaziken with Aqua Jet and are both amazingly useful Pokémon in their own rights. Just never bring them out til' the opponent sends out his 'ziken, wait for something to faint, then OHKO that oversized KFC.
    I guess it's good thing I trained that Floatzel and Azumarill to over level 50.
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  26. Post #306
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    November 2008
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    hey, shoosh you, i like my combat chicken!
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  27. Post #307
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    July 2006
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    Does someone wanna help me? I'm trying to plan out a Nidoking to "learn" EV training on, and I wanna breed for a shiny one with Sheer Force. If I get a female Monster of Field egg group with a Hustle ability, I can breed that into the Nido-kid (seeing as it's 50-50), right? And Hustle will turn into Sheer Force when the Nidorino evolves into Nidoking, correct?

    And I'm looking into this, it's going to be pretty much impossible to make a ~perfect~ Nidoking, right? I can either choose the Nature of one of the parents (less detrimental, I would think), or the IV of it. If I want to get into IV breeding with this as well, I'd need to look into that. Is it better to breed for good IV's or for Natures? How do you typically want to deal with IV's, as well. Do they complement your EV's, or do you breed for the IV's you're going to EV train?
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  28. Post #308
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    You're correct on sheer force.
    IVs and Natures are both important, but usually the nature has a bigger impact unless you accidentally breed a 0/0/0/0/0/0

    Generally it takes a long time and a lot of patience and luck to get more than 2/3 maxed IVs, even if you have excellent breeding stock. When you're starting breeding it's usually best to settle for 2 or 3 maxed stats if possible. The most important stats to have max IVs in is the ones you're going to train, but it never ever hurts to have high IVs, especially speed. A maxed speed pokemon will outspeed anyone at the same speed level that isn't bred for IVs which is important.

    Try and get pokerus, and use macho brace or a power item etc. while EV training. They make it MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH easier.

    EV training is fairly easy once you find an area to do it in. It's better to EV train in an area where you're guaranteed to get the same EVs each battle (EG route 1 in B/W, all the pokemon on that route will always give you +1 attack)

    It makes it easier to keep track, less attention intensive and just better in general.

    Once your pokemon can one hit ko the pokemon he's training on, you can use PP to track how many kills he's got and it'll streamline the process. I find ev training is really easy to do while in conversation (usually with pokebros of course, it seems rude to most other people), on the train/bus or when waiting around. Keep your DS with you while you're training and breeding and you'll find loads of opportunities to sneak in some quality time with your pokes.

    There's loads o guides on breeding (smogon has some really in depth ones), you dont need to breed for max stats, but the guides will teach you the basic principles. You will probably need to spend some time getting some good stock for breeding (max stat dittoes etc, which is a grind.)

    Good luck, your nidoking will serve you well, mine was OHKOing and outspeeding level 70-75 elite four pokemon when he was level 50.
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  29. Post #309
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    July 2006
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    Thanks for all that. Right now I'm just trying to work with what I had, just to kind of "learn" EV training. Right now he's level 25, and I instantly evolved the Nidorino, if that makes any difference. Quiet nature, so far he has 24 EV's (4 Sp. Atk [maxed], 2 HP [maxing], 18 Speed [maxing]). IV's are ~10 HP, ~5 Atk, ~5 Def, 29 Sp. Atk, ~5 Sp. Def, ~20 Speed. He may not be perfect, but he'll be good enough for me. Still mulling over a moveset for him. Definitely using Sludge Wave (once I get it; currently Sludge bomb) and Earth Power, with a Life Orb (again, once I get it). Thinking Ice Beam and Thunderbolt for the other two. Unless I get a Lapras, then I may replace them.

    So much time spent planning trying to get this JUST right. 6_9
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  30. Post #310
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    October 2011
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    I'm starting White now. What starter do I choose this isn't Tepig?

    Edited:

    also can someone give me a quick explanation on how to EV? Or should I look it up. I would but im lazy actually
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  31. Post #311
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    October 2007
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    Water otter
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  32. Post #312
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    EV gives you certain stat points for each kind of pokemon you ko. Look it up if you wanna train.

    Also go with Oshawott.
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  33. Post #313
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    Why are you maxing HP instead of SpA?

    Nidoking is not at all bulky. If you're using him as a special attacker you want power.
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  34. Post #314
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    Well, Nidoking's stats are pretty well rounded, so I figured I'd build him to be a bit of a tank, hoping his 29 IV's in Sp. Atk would compensate for the missing EV's.
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  35. Post #315
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    I'm starting White now. What starter do I choose this isn't Tepig?

    Edited:

    also can someone give me a quick explanation on how to EV? Or should I look it up. I would but im lazy actually
    Snivy
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  36. Post #316
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    November 2008
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    snivy is overpicked and overrated
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  37. Post #317
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    Well, Nidoking's stats are pretty well rounded, so I figured I'd build him to be a bit of a tank, hoping his 29 IV's in Sp. Atk would compensate for the missing EV's.
    At least you're trying to be different, despite it being Nidoking. I like that.

    I honestly can't stand competitive battles anymore. Every match, its all the same shit, and you see the same Pokemon in every fight, no matter what tier you play in. It's terribly unfun, even if I win.

    I like to run silly/fun gimmicks. I run a surprise Expert Belt Lickilicky, Zen Mode Darminitan, and a Trick Room Duosion/ Expert Belt Rampardos combo. It grabs me a couple of wins here and there, but it doesn't deny the fact that nobody likes to play for fun like I do, but everyone just picks out of the overpowered grab bag and makes a team with movesets and strategies that they didn't even come up with themselves.

    5th Gen/Dreamworld made this worse. It made some weaker pokemon who deserve a nice boost stronger, but it made some pokemon borderline ridiculous.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Pokemon, and have been since 1998. But I'm starting to fade away from it because the competitive scene seems to be grinding what I found fun in the game into the dirt.

    Does anybody else feel this way?
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  38. Post #318
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    snivy is overpicked and overrated
    I played with Oshawott the first time around and it was fun, but I've never really liked the grass starters until now.

    Maybe it's that smug expression... makes me laugh.
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  39. Post #319
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    Bought Diamond & Pearl in mint condition for €15,- in a second hand section of a gamestore. Playing Diamond atm.
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  40. Post #320
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    Apparently, there will be an event one in Feb 12th, for B/W owners.

    source
       Its Mewtwo if you want to know.   

    Kinda wished that I would get a 3DS on February 8th(when I turn 20).
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