[Awegner]

Aw man, I feel bad for you guys getting ganked by all the is-7's

Must of been scary.

[ze beaver]

Valdor posted:

banned from world of tanks chat for 3 days



i guess i cant use a more colorful language to tell my team how they're doing :(

I'm flaming people left and right in-game, I've been told I was "reported for abusive language, enjoy the ban!!!" multiple times and yet for some reason I'm still not chatbanned vv

[Valdor]

I really think wargaming hates the idea of teamwork, because why else would they block my ability to alert players of enemy locations. Unless my ability to point out enemy locations is offensive to people too

Edited:

you know, that click on the map and blink the square's location

[Trunk Monkay]

I woulda been able to help in my IS4, just need a more advance headsup.

[Valdor]

Ugh nevermind, the worst part about the chat ban is that I can't tell the arty on my team how shitty they are

[Firespray]

Okay, so another clan battle tomorrow. Maysan, Iraq. 16:30 Central time and yeah.
Also.

wotpubbie posted:

is it just me or do most of the french tanks have little to no reload especially the amx's i would love to have a higher end tier american tank like that hell just cut the t30's reload by half or by a 3rd and thats all i'll need tweek something here for the other nations

[Valdor]

well reading threads about how the amx series should be nerfed is making my head hurt

-they need less health (despite having no armor and having below average health)
-they need a weaker gun
-they're too fast
-the autoloader is OP and does unrealistic damage (seriously 2-3 shots from the lights = 1000+ damage according some of these stories)

Edited:

oh let's not forget how they apparently always win games since some players have amazing win:loss ratios

[dill6869]

They are pretty OP though

put an amx against another tank in it's tier and it will destroy it

[Awesomecaek]

Valdor posted:

well reading threads about how the amx series should be nerfed is making my head hurt

-they need less health (despite having no armor and having below average health)
-they need a weaker gun
-they're too fast
-the autoloader is OP and does unrealistic damage (seriously 2-3 shots from the lights = 1000+ damage according some of these stories)

Edited:

oh let's not forget how they apparently always win games since some players have amazing win:loss ratios

AMX 13 90 is OP. I have one, it's not even elited, and it's undeniable.

AMX 13 75 nor AMX 12t were. And I don't think Lorraine nor bat chat is.

How to balance AMX 13 90 without fucking it over completely, I don't know, tho.

[dill6869]

Increase time between shots?

[fishyfish777]

dill6869 posted:

They are pretty OP though

put an amx against another tank in it's tier and it will destroy it

Then put an AMX against a tank that matchmaking deems equal

Pretty level fight imo unless you're talking about the battlebus

[dill6869]

Lorraine and batchat are fine because at higher tiers they have so little protection against arty and HE cannons

[MadCatMkII]

The few tanks I'm truly afraid of are french. 50 120, 50b, and Bat.Chat.

[Trooper0315]

I don't know, just because the size and gun of the AMX12t it can get kind of OP if you can use it right.

[Apache249]

MadCatMkII posted:

The few tanks I'm truly afraid of are french. 50 120, 50b, and Bat.Chat.

704s attract frenchies like no other.

[Awesomecaek]

Trooper0315 posted:

I don't know, just because the size and gun of the AMX12t it can get kind of OP if you can use it right.

Let me point out that other T5 lights all have comparable or better guns (mainly Chaffee).

[MadCatMkII]

Apache249 posted:

704s attract frenchies like no other.

I'm more talking about my Panther II or Tiger II, I rarely play my 704 anymore.

_{grinder's remorse ;_;}

[ayaki]

[Awesomecaek]

ayaki posted:

gangrape

[fishyfish777]

MadCatMkII posted:

I'm more talking about my Panther II or Tiger II, I rarely play my 704 anymore.

_{grinder's remorse ;_;}

I don't understand when 704 drivers say people aren't scared of them

The T95 can be outmanouevered and you can usually just drive straight into a jagdtiger but O704s have a tendency to pop out of nowhere and ruin your life by driving a BL-10 shell straight through half your modules and crew members, doing 750 damage and detracking you (and even if you get around to the side of one half your shots bounce for no reason)

[Zombii]

fishyfish777 posted:

I don't understand when 704 drivers say people aren't scared of them

The T95 can be outmanouevered and you can usually just drive straight into a jagdtiger but O704s have a tendency to pop out of nowhere and ruin your life by driving a BL-10 shell straight through half your modules and crew members, doing 750 damage and detracking you (and even if you get around to the side of one half your shots bounce for no reason)

grass is greener

[Awesomecaek]

Personally I still find 704 the scariest of all TDs, in all my E75, AMX 13 90, T28, KV-2, KV-5 and even in S-51 until I sold it.

The sloped horseshit sides of superstructure is made of dingomanium, and the mantlet is downright impenetrable.

It's fastest and most agile of the three, and has the most "Fuck your shit gun" of the three.

Also I would say it's better armored than JagdTiger.

[MadCatMkII]

Awesomecaek posted:

Personally I still find 704 the scariest of all TDs, in all my E75, AMX 13 90, T28, KV-2, KV-5 and even in S-51 until I sold it.

The sloped horseshit sides of superstructure is made of dingomanium, and the mantlet is downright impenetrable.

It's fastest and most agile of the three, and has the most "Fuck your shit gun" of the three.

Also I would say it's better armored than JagdTiger.

It's strange, everyone says they ding off the 704 like its made of Teflon coated titanium that's 3 feet thick, but for me, it couldn't even bounce a bucketfull of diarrhea casually thrown at it by a 3 year old.

[Awesomecaek]

MadCatMkII posted:

It's strange, everyone says they ding off the 704 like its made of Teflon coated titanium that's 3 feet thick, but for me, it couldn't even bounce a bucketfull of diarrhea casually thrown at it by a 3 year old.

Thing is that it's overall a bit weaker than JTs superstructure (except mantlet), but has no weakspot. Higher tier tanks penetrate, if having a good angle and don't hit the mantlet, but low tier guns have simply no way of penetrating.

[MadCatMkII]

Awesomecaek posted:

Thing is that it's overall a bit weaker than JTs superstructure (except mantlet), but has no weakspot. Higher tier tanks penetrate, if having a good angle and don't hit the mantlet, but low tier guns have simply no way of penetrating.

161mm effective = 250mm effective?

[Corezy]

Awesomecaek posted:

Thing is that it's overall a bit weaker than JTs superstructure (except mantlet), but has no weakspot. Higher tier tanks penetrate, if having a good angle and don't hit the mantlet, but low tier guns have simply no way of penetrating.

I probably bounced more shells than he did when I got to try out his 704. Thing was magic and I wanted to trade him my JT for it then I realized Jt is a pretty good TD.

[MadCatMkII]

My Panther II costs more to repair than my King Tiger.


Fucking what.

[MendozaMan]

MadCatMkII posted:

My Panther II costs more to repair than my King Tiger.


Fucking what.

Wargaming.

[Awesomecaek]

MadCatMkII posted:

161mm effective = 250mm effective?

No way 704 has 161mm effective when it dings 200mm pen shells all the time.

And as I said, that's only the superstructure. I can pen the hull itself on JT with my KV-5, reliably.

[MadCatMkII]

I love how I accidentally shot a friendly Lowe with my 704, dealing well over 800 damage, and I only got fined 10* experience. GG Wargayming.

Edited:

Awesomecaek posted:

No way 704 has 161mm effective when it dings 200mm pen shells all the time.

And as I said, that's only the superstructure. I can pen the hull itself on JT with my KV-5, reliably.

Okay so it's 240mm, some guy on the WoT forum was being retarded. It still doesn't make sense that I get penned by literally anything tier 6 and up

[Awesomecaek]

MadCatMkII posted:

I love how I accidentally shot a friendly Lowe with my 704, dealing well over 800 damage, and I only got fined 10* experience. GG Wargayming.

Edited:



Okay so it's 240mm, some guy on the WoT forum was being retarded. It still doesn't make sense that I get penned by literally anything tier 6 and up

I don't know, I have hard time penetrating 704s in my KV-5, and so I do with the T28s 105 at times. Keep on mind that JTs also get penetrated like nothing.

Edited:

Try doing the shuffle-truffle. While reloading and knowing there is an enemy aiming at your front, wiggle your hull from side to side at like 15 degree deviance to both left and right from the target, ideally in a way in which detrack wouldn't make you unable to shoot. That way the armor is angled most of the time, the mantlet is harder to avoid, and the enemy is often confused about where to shoot.

[MadCatMkII]

God damn I can't stand playing my 704, but holy hell do I enjoy seeing those 800-1000+ damage crits. Dem dicerolls.

[Timebomb575]

Awesomecaek posted:

Try doing the shuffle-truffle. While reloading and knowing there is an enemy aiming at your front, wiggle your hull from side to side at like 15 degree deviance to both left and right from the target, ideally in a way in which detrack wouldn't make you unable to shoot. That way the armor is angled most of the time, the mantlet is harder to avoid, and the enemy is often confused about where to shoot.

I do this in my KV-5 to prevent people from hitting the R2D2 while I reload

Its hilarious watching their guns slew to and fro trying to get a shot on the thing

[Bowser_nl]

Awesomecaek posted:

AMX 13 90 is OP. I have one, it's not even elited, and it's undeniable.

AMX 13 75 nor AMX 12t were. And I don't think Lorraine nor bat chat is.

How to balance AMX 13 90 without fucking it over completely, I don't know, tho.

I'm pretty sure the Lorraine is going to get nerfed to hell. WG only looks at winratio and the Lorraine has the highest winratio of all Frenchies. My guess is that they will remove the 100mm and at least 2 engines on the Lorraine. 13 90 will probably get reduced hitpoints and speed or something.

[Awesomecaek]

Bowser_nl posted:

I'm pretty sure the Lorraine is going to get nerfed to hell. WG only looks at winratio and the Lorraine has the highest winratio of all Frenchies. My guess is that they will remove the 100mm and at least 2 engines on the Lorraine. 13 90 will probably get reduced hitpoints and speed or something.

I am not sure but didn't the Lorraine's winrate drop already? It's clear that the initial one was from all the crazed instabuyers who sorta obviously know what they are doing, and since then, I didn't see any really exceptional Lorraine.

As said, it's a bit faster AMX 50 100, so there's no real reason why it should be extra op.

[MendozaMan]

Awesomecaek posted:

I am not sure but didn't the Lorraine's winrate drop already? It's clear that the initial one was from all the crazed instabuyers who sorta obviously know what they are doing, and since then, I didn't see any really exceptional Lorraine.

As said, it's a bit faster AMX 50 100, so there's no real reason why it should be extra op.

It's gonna get nerfed and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it unfortunately. WG only looks at stats and the stats right now are in favor of it.

After they make it useless and noone plays it anymore only then will it be good for WG.

[Bowser_nl]

Awesomecaek posted:

I am not sure but didn't the Lorraine's winrate drop already? It's clear that the initial one was from all the crazed instabuyers who sorta obviously know what they are doing, and since then, I didn't see any really exceptional Lorraine.

As said, it's a bit faster AMX 50 100, so there's no real reason why it should be extra op.

1) Bat Chatillon 25 t 60.46%
2) Lorraine 40 t 60.35%
3) AMX 50B 55.91%
4) AMX 50 100 55.42%
5) AMX 50 120 55.18%
6) T-50-2 54.97%
7) M24 Chaffee 54.83%
8) AMX 13 90 54.38%

That's from 30 January, EU server. Tanks below tier5 not counted.

Edited:

Batmobile and Lorraine are miles ahead the rest in terms of winratio. Expect some horrible nerfs.

[Goblin_5]

I dont get it? Type DOES meet tier 10. Has average pen 175 witch is a lot worse that 200 of the Panther 1 and has less accuracy so cannot reliably snipe or penetrate. In tier 10 battles Panther is better than type.

It's true, I feel fucking invincible when a E-100 attacks my Panther.

[Angua]

Are there actually any clan battles in the eu clan?

[Bonde]

I don't think so. I haven't been in any at least. I think the problem is that most of us don't have high tier tanks.

Edited:

Okay, my newly purchased IS has convinced me that this game is not worth playing. I have realized that I have wasted too much time and now intend to uninstall the game.

Edited:

I'll see you guys somewhere in 2013 when historical battles are implemented.