Windows 8 will play nice with Google services :D
And it's not like it's impossible to boot up linux with secure boot on, you could sidestep it as the problem lies within the bootloader and not the OS itself from what I understand.
I'd imagine WUBI would still work as it uses the Windows Bootloader which works with secure boot.
This leaves two choices to manufacturers (regardless of whether their tablet also works on Android/Linux or not by default):
Either they make the device unlocked, which allows you to use Secure Boot with your own OS if you wish, and then they lose the Windows 8 certification, the whole PR that goes with it, and probably many things I'm not even aware of when you have a certified device.
They keep the device locked, they keep the certification, but then no one can run an OS other than Windows 8 on their device, no matter how better that OS might be.
Microsoft is basically giving them an ultimatum between certifying a single-OS device or releasing a multi-OS device and never getting certified. There's no way to certify a device for Windows 8 that can also be used with Linux because of these stupid rules.
To reply to Baconator, due to the above, that tablet won't exist. Basically I'm talking about a scenario where a tablet CAN already run both OSes, but will be locked out of installing something else than Windows 8 due to secure boot.
Microsoft has recently made some leeways regarding secure boot, so at this point I'm just hoping that they'll allow devices to be certified even if they do not lock secure boot. Hopefully this has already happened (in which case my post has less purpose than it would've had weeks ago), but if not then it's something I hope gets worked on because it's pretty stupid of an issue.
EDIT: I'm talking about this: http://www.theverge.com/microsoft/20...-windows-8-arm
If it has changed, please post the relevant links in this thread.
EDIT: Forgot to mention this is mostly an ARM thing.
They could make both a Windows tablet and Andoid tablet though, it's not like manufacturers only have one choice.
If you want a tablet that uses linux, get an android tablet,
If you want a tablet that uses windows, get a windows tablet,
If you want a tablet that uses both, get an x86 tablet.
I really don't see how it's such a big deal and Microsoft gets blamed for doing something that other tablet manufactures are doing one way or the other.
People are making out like Microsoft is making linux completely impossible to use on a tablet, which isn't even remotely the case. Microsoft isn't the only software maker, there are options the consumer has, really. People are going on like Microsoft is the only tablet software provider, they haven't even got into the market yet.
This is really, Really neat, I've finally got my touch panel to be recognised as a... Well.. as a touch panel, I will try to make a video now since I can now experience Windows 8 as it was supposed to be experienced, this all feels very natural, and more accurate too
(Sorry for the low quality picture, I took the picture with my phone)
Let's think of it this way... Since when has the Internet's Hacking and Modding community let something like this stand? Not even Apple is immune, with the iPad 2 having been rooted to run Honeycomb.
Just don't worry about it. Things will sort themselves out. They always do.
I'd say resistive panels are better than capacitive panels for tablets, and after I bought I saw that they just resell it from a company named eGalaxTouch, which offers multitouch resistive panels, with pressure metering, but yeah, this one I have bought is really great, it's even scratch resistant.
Also they also have capacitive panels if you want, but it's more expensive
I looked on their ebay page and they didn't have any panels that matched my LCD size. How close was the panel you got to your actual LCD size? The closest match they have is a good two inches off.
1:1, Fitted perfectly , but the bezel on the panel (non touchable area) was a bit too big for my thin bezel on my laptop
Fuhh. I e-mailed another e-bayer about getting a custom size. We'll see if they can do that. I directly contacted a supplier and they wanted $750 per piece with a minimum order of 400. Yeah, right.
Usually I'd be hoping that Secure Boot was easily crackable, but chances are it won't be, and if it is easily crackable then that just means it provides no security at all, which is also bad...
Good thing I don't really care about tablets at the moment...
bootmgr system file on the first hard drive detected by the BIOS. Does not need to be on the windows drive (mine is on my F drive.) I know the wubi installer just jams itself into the windows boot manager so nothing gets messed with (because you can not fuck with that shit if a OS is loaded) but it will install GRUB if you install any other way.
as for the whole locked down boot thing, that is more or less a UEFI setting and if you are just going to use your current stuff, you dont need to really worry about it because you need to turn it on. It will be on by default on systems that have the whole "designed for windows 8" sticker (which may or may not end up with microsoft getting sued again)
Windows 8 will suck.Why the fuck do we need a new operating system?
I hope no one buy it.
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Is it possible to install this latest Windows 8 build and then go back to 7? Perhaps put it on a usb?
There's a reason techy nerds don't care much for tablets.
It kinda reminds me of the original windows logo.
Although Microsoft HAD to make it inconsistent by putting a different logo for the boot animation
After seeing it on a device button I just realized that it's really gross.