[gparent]

I didn't miss a single thing, I just think it was exactly that, a demonstration showcasing extra features, but maybe they're really dumb enough to include it in the stock interface, given how we're talking about MS here.

[Tennisball]

ica|kvantum posted:

I would like to try windows 8 but is it worth to dual-boot my computer with windows 7 and windows 8?
Don't have any other computer that is good enough then my main desktop.

Wait for the Consumer Preview.

[jordguitar]

i got access to msdnaa (its called dreamspark now for whatever reason)
im redownloading the windows 8 dev preview and going to mess around with it.

Surprisingly they also has vista and xp there for you to grab licences to. The xp one was considered a dev tool.

[The Baconator]

ica|kvantum posted:

I would like to try windows 8 but is it worth to dual-boot my computer with windows 7 and windows 8?
Don't have any other computer that is good enough then my main desktop.

I wouldn't, unless you don't game much or use that many demanding apps or things in which failure could be a problem, I wouldn't install Windows 8 over 7, but dual booting is such a pain.

Do you have a spare HDD?

[Kaze]

I've ran windows 8 dev preview for 6 months as my primary OS, never had any compatibility problems or games that couldn't run..

[ica|kvantum]

The Baconator posted:

I wouldn't, unless you don't game much or use that many demanding apps or things in which failure could be a problem, I wouldn't install Windows 8 over 7, but dual booting is such a pain.

Do you have a spare HDD?

I have 4 hdds. 2 300gb and 2 500gb
But I agree that dual boot is a pain so I just use windows 7 and give 8 a try another time.
Can try to get it to run on one of my shit old computers I got for free but it could not even run Ubuntu 10.10

[P320]

Kaze posted:

I've ran windows 8 dev preview for 6 months as my primary OS, never had any compatibility problems or games that couldn't run..

Rare apps that would give me problems would run fine in Windows 7 compatibility mode.

[wraithcat]

GoDong-DK posted:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/14/m...indows-8-apps/

Notice how the logo on the button is the "normal" one, and not the shitfest on the last page.

Oh gods, the person that did his makeup should be fired. Those bright cheeks

[Sam Za Nemesis]

wraithcat posted:

Oh gods, the person that did his makeup should be fired. Those bright cheeks

That and the Greenscreen seams over a blue background

[wraithcat]

Sam Za Nemesis posted:

That and the Greenscreen seams over a blue background

Looks like direct lightning with no matte makeup base if you ask me.

[Panda X]

gparent posted:

I didn't miss a single thing, I just think it was exactly that, a demonstration showcasing extra features, but maybe they're really dumb enough to include it in the stock interface, given how we're talking about MS here.

Jimmy asked why they added the scrollbars to magifier. You replied:

gparent posted:

How do you pinch to zoom on your keyboard? I tried and it doesn't work.

But the scrollbars are only there for touch enabled devices. Otherwise it's Win+(Plus) and Win+(Minus) like it is now.

[gparent]

Panda X posted:

But the scrollbars are only there for touch enabled devices. Otherwise it's Win+(Plus) and Win+(Minus) like it is now.

What I'm saying is that features like this are sometimes purposely turned on just for demos. But I'm at work and I can't really get into it much more than that.

[Panda X]

gparent posted:

What I'm saying is that features like this are sometimes purposely turned on just for demos. But I'm at work and I can't really get into it much more than that.

What do you mean turn it on just for the demos? They can't demonstrate how it works if they don't run the program they're demonstrating.

[The Baconator]

Internet Explorer Performance Lab: reliably measuring browser performance

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2...rformance.aspx

[gparent]

Panda X posted:

What do you mean turn it on just for the demos? They can't demonstrate how it works if they don't run the program they're demonstrating.

Which is related to the fact that maybe the scroll bars won't be there in other situations how? I can easily see this as a feature that will be turned on only because it's the magnifier, which people with disabilities are going to use. And even then, it's probably an option that can be disabled. Just because something appears in a demo doesn't mean it's necessarily the stock option set, something the two chucklefucks who rated zing don't seem to grasp. Even then, it makes perfect sense given the target audience of the application. We had a near-blind person at work and it was very hard for him to tell if he was actually touching the screen at the right place to zoom and move around. A fat gray scrollbar is easy to spot and easy to navigate with.

And if they don't make it an option by release (if it isn't one already), I'd be very surprised.

[Panda X]

gparent posted:

Which is related to the fact that maybe the scroll bars won't be there in other situations how? I can easily see this as a feature that will be turned on only because it's the magnifier, which people with disabilities are going to use. And even then, it's probably an option that can be disabled. Just because something appears in a demo doesn't mean it's necessarily the stock option set, something the two chucklefucks who rated zing don't seem to grasp. And even if it were in the stock option set, it'd make perfect sense given the target audience of the application. We had a near-blind person at work and due to his vision it was very hard to tell if he was actually touching the screen at the right place to zoom and move around. A fat gray scrollbar, on the other hand, is easy to spot, easy to navigate with, and if they don't make it an option by release if it isn't one already, I'd be very surprised.

They said in the video it's the UI of magnifier for touch screens. They even showed that it only works with the scrollbar. Which is all we were talking about until you attempted to make a zinger about pinching and zooming on a keyboard. Completely irrelevant to anything anyone was talking about. Which is why I said that you a P320 missed the point. No one was talking about keyboards, only the Magnifier's UI for touch screen devices.

gparent posted:

And if they don't make it an option by release (if it isn't one already), I'd be very surprised.

How else are you going to be able to use it. How are you suppose to use it if it was disabled?

[gparent]

Panda X posted:

They said in the video it's the UI of magnifier for touch screens. They even showed that it only works with the scrollbar. Which is all we were talking about until you attempted to make a zinger about pinching and zooming on a keyboard. Completely irrelevant to anything anyone was talking about. Which is why I said that you a P320 missed the point. No one was talking about keyboards, only the Magnifier's UI for touch screen devices.

If you're still stuck on that then this is a lost case so just quit talking about it.

Panda X posted:

How else are you going to be able to use it. How are you suppose to use it if it was disabled?

Honestly? Jesus...

EDIT: The typical way of using something disabled is to enable it, to answer your question.
EDIT2: I understand a lot of you haven't done software development but taking demos for granted is just silly.

[Panda X]

gparent posted:

If you're still stuck on that then this is a lost case so just quit talking about it.

Honestly? Jesus...

Honestly what? Tell me how you'd use it if was disabled.

[gparent]

Panda X posted:

Honestly what? Tell me how you'd use it if was disabled.

I wouldn't, this is a really stupid rhetorical question.

[Panda X]

gparent posted:

EDIT: The typical way of using something disabled is to enable it, to answer your question.
EDIT2: I understand a lot of you haven't done software development but taking demos for granted is just silly.

How would it be useful if it was disabled? The magnifier is for the visually impaired. You expect the visual impaired to start the magnifier and there's no clue as to how to use it?

How am I taking the demo for granted. It's a real demonstration of the UI.

[gparent]

Panda X posted:

How would it be useful if it was disabled? The magnifier is for the visually impaired. You expect the visual impaired to start the magnifier and there's no clue as to how to use it?

No, not really. This is a waste of both of our times, I'd rather chat with you later.

[Panda X]

gparent posted:

No, not really. This is a waste of both of our times, I'd rather chat with you later.

Contact me on steam later, there's obviously some miscommunication some where.

[gparent]

Panda X posted:

Contact me on steam later, there's obviously some miscommunication some where.

In a minute, <3 broseph.

[Panda X]

Found a shortcut to get to the power options more quickly.

Win+I. It opens the sidebar thing on the right.

[P320]

Panda X posted:

Found a shortcut to get to the power options more quickly.

Win+I. It opens the sidebar thing on the right.

In the beta? isn't working for me in DP.

[Panda X]

P320 posted:

In the beta? isn't working for me in DP.

On the DP.

[P320]

Gah... I hate my fucked-up installation. >_<

[shian]

Windows 8 looks pretty.

Also, hoping they update the theming feature. Like a marketplace made for themes, and you can try it out straight away.

[The Baconator]

I hope they get rid of Aero for a Metro like desktop scheme, those mock ups look so good.

[GoDong-DK]

Shit, it's apparently official: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b...medium=twitter

[ali3n92]

GoDong-DK posted:

Shit, it's apparently official: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b...medium=twitter

R.I.P. Windows logo. We will miss you! :(

[icemaz]

Should've just used the windows logo which I see when I boot up my Lumia 800. It's in keeping with metro and immediately recognisable.

This one

[P320]

I welcome the new logo. It fits the new Metro design well.

[Internetianer]

P320 posted:

I welcome the new logo. It fits the new Metro design well.

It's ugly as shit.

[LegoGuy]

P320 posted:

I welcome the new logo. It fits the new Metro design well.

I want those 4 colours back

[Panda X]

P320 posted:

I welcome the new logo. It fits the new Metro design well.

The current metro winflag looks and fits better than that.

[LegoGuy]

Panda X posted:

The current metro winflag looks and fits better than that.

Can we see it?

[Panda X]

LegoGuy posted:

Can we see it?

[ali3n92]

I wonder if Microsoft really listen to their customers. They seem to do what they want and then try to convince you it's right. The new logo being an example, metro start screen another one.

[inconspicious]

Panda X posted:

Its a bit too saturated, darken it down and its perfect.

Edited:

ali3n92 posted:

I wonder if Microsoft really listen to their customers. They seem to do what they want and then try to convince you it's right. The new logo being an example, metro start screen another one.

If windows 8 was just windows 7 with a more shiny aero, fast as shit boot times, windows store and the other minor enhancements, it would be the perfect upgrade. All of these UI tweaks are mounting up and they are putting me off.