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I actually liked how Metro overall looks, but I really hate the new window chrome.
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One problem I've had is when games crash (off the top of my head I know that at least Max Payne 3 and Far Cry 2 have this issue) I have no way of closing them. I can start task manager, but the game always remains on top regardless of what has focus, so I have to reboot. Did not have this problem in Win7
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I actually think I'll be keeping my window borders white like in the image where they first showed it.
I just reckon it looks much nicer that way.
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It's like Windows Classic all over again. Only looks good in it's original color.
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Windows Classic looked good in Rainy Day too.
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Okay then, some exceptions.
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Default KDE looks nothing like metro. Nor does xfce, fluxbox, blackbox or other countless WMs
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Maybe he meant that you could use KDE to replace the original DE.
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Rainy day still looks bad, in my opinion.
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I wish somebody would port Windows 8 DP's Aero theme to Windows 7, that was my favorite Aero Theme.
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I do believe you can find a few on DeviantArt.
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I'm always a sucker for matte. Bonus points if it's got a pixel-art influence.
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Seeing things like this always annoy me because it shows what it could have been instead of what it will be: http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/10...unity-concept/
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Maybe they'll get it right with 9.
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Watching cool videos of Longhorn tripped me out, only to see 90% of the cool shit stripped from it before we got Vista. *Ragefist*
And I miss Vista's sidebar, I hate Windows covering my gadgets, and vice-versa.
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Got Steve Balmers phone number handy? I want to berate him for not using this.
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You deserve more than 24 winners for that.
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Hey guys, I'd just like to say that despite all my hatred toward all the new changes in Windows 8, I've finally started using it on my main desktop, natively not in a VM, and it is lightning fast. I think I can get used to the changes if it'll stay this fast after using it for a couple of months.
EDIT: Also, the new Task Manager is pretty slick.
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Fun fact: there's some Metro apps that use more memory than the entire OS. Think about that for a minute.
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Aren't there enough 'desktop' apps that use more memory than the entire OS?
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the consumer preview was still really fast on my old computer after a few months of use.
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which is pretty much unprecedented
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I feel as if some developers these days don't care about memory usage since a lot of people have several GBs. Which is unfortunate.
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Optimization takes a backseat to pushing something out the door. It's sad, really... It causes a huge problem in the gaming industry, that it takes a PC several times as powerful as a console to render the same graphics settings in a standard port, because people simply don't optimize.
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do the scrollbars in windows 8 feel massive to anyone else?
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The sysmetrics for the scrollbar are still 17px wide and 17px high (arrow button). Maybe it's the image that just makes it look larger?
IE and Metro Apps do however have larger arrow buttons for touch, but everything else it's still the same.
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What.. if anything they look skinnier.
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then I guess its just windows scrollbars' period. Meh, I'm probably just spoiled by the thin scrollbar extension for Chrome and Ubuntu's ayatana overlay scrollbars (which are brilliant and wish I could use on Windows)
Nevermind me, then.
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In a world where 8GB is the "desktop standard", nobody really gives a fuck. Just sayin'.
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The desktop standard is closer to 2-4 gigs for an everyday user, I believe. Also, you should care because the only way you can go with that thinking is ridiculous resource usage and the user having to compensate for it. Just because a developer can't fix something like a memory leak doesn't mean I should be the one who fixes it by giving it more power.
That's like saying hey, there's a gas leak in the car - we better load it up with more gas more often to compensate. Someone's going to have to fix the car at some point.
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If you go into any place that sells retail computers, they come with 4GB to 8GB. The last time I saw a 2GB machine was back in 2008. Besides, you can get 16GB of RAM for under a hundred bucks, so there's really no reason NOT to splurge a little on RAM.
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Where I live there's still plenty of people with Windows XP computers with less than 2GB of RAM.
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Then they should upgrade if they want 8.
Windows 8 is quite a bit newer than XP and it's not designed for older computers.
You can't expect a brand new OS to run on a computer designed for a 10 year old OS.
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Besides the obvious flaw in your argument in that the Metro applications will often be run on devices with more like 1 or 2 GB of RAM (tablets). It's hugely naive to think everybody has 8GB of memory in their computer, Take a look at the Steam Hardware survey. http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
Just under 70% of users (data from May 2012, not out of date) have 4GB or less in their computer. And these are supposed to be hardware stats for people who play games, not the average consumer.
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They won't because their XP machines do everything they want.
Giving them no real reason of upgrading.
Not to mention money being an issue as well.
Although sooner or later they'll end up doing it because IE8 gets supported less by every day.
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Yeah, I edited my post as you were writing that.
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what kind of dumb argument is this.
oh no windows apps aren't and never have been hyper-optimized therefore nobody with less than 2GB of RAM can use them? lmao
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My friend is building a gaming computer soon. Should he shell out for Windows 7, or is Windows 8 stable enough to do gaming? It'll be a pretty top-of-the-line computer. Also, it has a G15 already, will that be a problem? It was on the consumer preview (It froze all the time until we stopped using the keyboard).
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can't you use windows 7 for a total of like 120 days without needing a key(by rearming 3 times)
i'd say do that and buy windows 8 when it comes out, assuming he's ok with the interface
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I'm using Windows 8 on my gaming rig and it works really well. Can't really say much about compatibility since I only really play CS:S nowadays, but that runs really well so all source games should too. Pretty sure most other games will work fine too!
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