1. Post #6641
    oh okay I get it now that's mindfang before she was a huge bitch

    how is she terezi's ancestor also though???
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  2. Post #6642
    Gasjockey's Avatar
    September 2011
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    I thought she meant her herself was in the future from Vriska and Terezi. So... for example, Mindfang and Redglare came first, then second came Vriska and Terezi, then came Aranea and whomever is the Libra troll.
    I'm probably very wrong though because I'm very tired and about to go to bed.
    Well, you're right about being wrong. Aranea is the pre-scratch version of Mindfang (i.e. the original) This is why she says she's "preceded [the trolls] entire civilization 8y 8illions [of solar sweeps]". The scratched offshoot didn't exist yet (although technically it did, seeing as how paradox space "knows" whether or not a session will be scratched). I might be completely wrong, but it makes sense.
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  3. Post #6643
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    August 2010
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    Fuck. I guess I should have known that as things got revealed even more question would be created.
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  4. Post #6644
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    AG: She had an ancestor whom she was aware of, and technically that is who I am.
    AG: That is to say, she is who I would have 8ecome on your world, had I arrived in her place. Alas, I did not.
    AG: She was a figure in your history who preceded you 8y thousands of solar sweeps.
    AG: Whereas I preceded your entire civilization 8y 8illions.
    She's saying that Aranea is mindfang, and by "she is who I would have become" she means basically if the scratch hadn't happened and she arrived in her original time, she would have been Vriska, basically. But then she says "She was a figure in your history who preceded you 8y thousands of solar sweeps.". Does she mean that Mindfang was thousands of sweeps in the past, but Aranea herself was billions of sweeps in the past because of the scratch? Holy shit im confused
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  5. Post #6645
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    AG: I of course needed to visit you through a memory, and interestingly, this is the one you gave me.
    AG: No ill will or upsetting hijinks were intended.
    Am I the only one that thought it was going to turn out to be Doc Scratch out of nowhere

    i mean yes i get that    he transmogrified into LE    but this is homestuck, stranger twists have happened
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  6. Post #6646
    She's saying that Aranea is mindfang, and by "she is who I would have become" she means basically if the scratch hadn't happened and she arrived in her original time, she would have been Vriska, basically. But then she says "She was a figure in your history who preceded you 8y thousands of solar sweeps.". Does she mean that Mindfang was thousands of sweeps in the past, but Aranea herself was billions of sweeps in the past because of the scratch? Holy shit im confused
    she's saying she's pre-scratch mindfang
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  7. Post #6647
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    oh okay I get it now that's mindfang before she was a huge bitch

    how is she terezi's ancestor also though???
    Ectobiology, troll incest slime orgies, mother grubs, there's a whole line of reasons that Aranea and Terezi could be related.
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  8. Post #6648
    I didn't think the trolls could be all jumbled up like the human kids were

    they seemed pretty straightforward
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  9. Post #6649
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    I didn't think the trolls could be all jumbled up like the human kids were

    they seemed pretty straightforward
    Dude there are twenty-four of them of course they're gonna be even more jumbled up.
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  10. Post #6650
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    September 2011
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    Technically (if of course, the ectobiology follows the same type of mixing of DNA as is normal for the species (that is, mother and father for humans and incestious slurry for trolls)), the trolls are probably all related. Remember, incest isn't a thing on Alternia.
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  11. Post #6651
    Pomf =3
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    also remember it takes 4 trolls, 1 from each quadrant, to make a baby grub

    also hi i was gone forever but now i finally caught up
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  12. Post #6652
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    also remember it takes 4 trolls, 1 from each quadrant, to make a baby grub

    also hi i was gone forever but now i finally caught up
    no, that's not how it works at all

    we dont really know whats necessary to "make a grub", but the drone collects genetic material from matespritship (♥) and kismesis (♠) couples. the other two dont supplement reproduction
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  13. Post #6653
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    also remember it takes 4 trolls, 1 from each quadrant, to make a baby grub

    also hi i was gone forever but now i finally caught up
    How did you manage to come close to that reasoning.
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  14. Post #6654
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    February 2011
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    can we stop talking about troll romance it is literally the worst part about liking this comic
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  15. Post #6655
    Gasjockey's Avatar
    September 2011
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    also remember it takes 4 trolls, 1 from each quadrant, to make a baby grub

    also hi i was gone forever but now i finally caught up
    basically what Anonymuzz said (only concupiscent romance leads to "pailing"), but to explain it one could think of it in terms of bees. all the drones (trolls) impregnate the hive queen (the mother grub), who then proceeds to spew out a shitton of baby bee eggs (grubs).
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  16. Post #6656
    WHOA HEY GUYS HUGE FUCKING TEXT HERE
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    May 2006
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    Oh man I hope we'll get to see Pre-Scratched Redglare soon.
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  17. Post #6657
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    Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh
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  18. Post #6658
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    I found this face really funny.
    I laughed more than I should have.
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  19. Post #6659
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    January 2009
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    Technically (if of course, the ectobiology follows the same type of mixing of DNA as is normal for the species (that is, mother and father for humans and incestious slurry for trolls)), the trolls are probably all related. Remember, incest isn't a thing on Alternia.
    Except it doesn't and the trollcestors are exact clones of their counterparts?
    As seen from the fact that they have the same sgrub roles, the same blood colors and powers, the same appearance, etc.
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  20. Post #6660
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    i really dont think aranea meant she was terezi's biological ancestor in the same way she's vriska's

    i think she just meant that in a figurative sense
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  21. Post #6661
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    aranea kinda looks like terezi kanaya and vriska combined

    Edited:

    itachi don't make me mexican standoff you, i said kinda. terezi's hairstyle, kanaya's sense of fashion and fangs and vriska's overall build
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  22. Post #6662
    I'm so Jewish you can suck my nuts.
    d00msdaydan's Avatar
    April 2009
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    oh okay I get it now that's mindfang before she was a huge bitch

    how is she terezi's ancestor also though???
    Product of kismessitude between Redglare and Mindfang perhaps?
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  23. Post #6663
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    November 2005
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    Gosh, this update is reminding me how much of an utter bitch Vriska is, but it's also a little pathetic.
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  24. Post #6664
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    November 2007
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    aranea kinda looks like terezi kanaya and vriska combined

    Edited:

    itachi don't make me mexican standoff you, i said kinda. terezi's hairstyle, kanaya's sense of fashion and fangs and vriska's overall build
    oh whats that looks like a motherfuckin tumbleweed

    Edited:

    Product of kismessitude between Redglare and Mindfang perhaps?
    bu

    wha

    theyre all ectobiological paradox clones tho
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  25. Post #6665
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    For No Reason's Avatar
    October 2010
    14,112 Posts
    Has anyone done a gamebro/cascade mash up?
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  26. Post #6666
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    November 2007
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    p sure she just meant she was part of the group of players preceding them
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  27. Post #6667
    Dr. Conro J. Norock, Robot Sarcasm Master
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    July 2007
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    Too bad her name isn't Spinneret anymore
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  28. Post #6668
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    Itachi_Crow's Avatar
    November 2007
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    Too bad her name isn't Spinneret anymore
    i dont think spinneret mindfang was ever her real name

    all the highblood's given names seem to be based off their appearance or powers. like titles.

    Edited:

    Dude there are twenty-four of them of course they're gonna be even more jumbled up.
    uh they werent in post scratch so why would they be now

    its heavily implied and frankly kind of obvious that there wasnt any mixing done like there was in the human ectobiology process

    theyre exactly the same as their descendants were on a genetic level

    Edited:

    also let me remind you guys who're on the "prescratch troll players were divided up into different descendants" theory that doc scratch explicitly stated that there were always 12 players both prescratch and postscratch

    all that changed was the ancestor/descendant flip flop
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  29. Post #6669
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    April 2009
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    Some people seem to be confused so I made a diagram:

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  30. Post #6670
    I'm so Jewish you can suck my nuts.
    d00msdaydan's Avatar
    April 2009
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    oh whats that looks like a motherfuckin tumbleweed

    Edited:



    bu

    wha

    theyre all ectobiological paradox clones tho
    Well that's what it would probably be if it wasn't for ectobiology
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  31. Post #6671
    LOO POO'S BIG FAN !!!!!!!! LOVES SHITPOSTING ALMOST AS MUCH!!!!
    Yahnich's Avatar
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    Some people seem to be confused so I made a diagram:

    but prescratch vriska was the ancestor and aranea was the player???
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  32. Post #6672
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    April 2010
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    I don't see why some people don't understand this. This is one of the less confusing things to happen in the comic.
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  33. Post #6673
    LOO POO'S BIG FAN !!!!!!!! LOVES SHITPOSTING ALMOST AS MUCH!!!!
    Yahnich's Avatar
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    it's not that i don't grasp anything of what is happening, it's just that i don't think chonk's is correct considering vriska is supposed to be aranea's ancestor prescratch so should've arrived earlier than aranea.
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  34. Post #6674
    DarkMonkey's Avatar
    January 2009
    3,903 Posts
    Alright motherfucking table time.

    Remember people, it's not 'pre-scratch happens, then post-scratch'. It's not even 'pre-scratch and post-scratch happen at the same time'. It's 'pre-scratch and post-scratch both happen.'
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  35. Post #6675
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    i liked the monvie rendition of it a lot but generally yeah its just not funny anymore

    Edited:

    sorry blarg
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  36. Post #6676
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    November 2007
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    its ok i still love u (even tho ur like canadian or some weird shit)
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  37. Post #6677
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    it's not that i don't grasp anything of what is happening, it's just that i don't think chonk's is correct considering vriska is supposed to be aranea's ancestor prescratch so should've arrived earlier than aranea.
    I seem to have misinterpreted "Whereas I preceded your entire civilization 8y 8illions." I will now correct my image to reflect this change.

    Edited:

    See above.
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  38. Post #6678
    Dr. Conro J. Norock, Robot Sarcasm Master
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    July 2007
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    How do you guys feel about Ruby Quest? It's an MSPA-ish adventure. Because I just got around to finishing it and I think I need a support group.
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  39. Post #6679
    <3 Strike Witches <3
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    May 2008
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    How do you guys feel about Ruby Quest? It's an MSPA-ish adventure. Because I just got around to finishing it and I think I need a support group.
    I'm here for you buddy. You can call me Tom, what's your name?
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  40. Post #6680
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    How do you guys feel about Ruby Quest? It's an MSPA-ish adventure. Because I just got around to finishing it and I think I need a support group.
    Conro stares at the horrible sight before him.
    Chamango's laughter echoes through the small room.
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