But he had a sawn-off against Batman's head, ready to pull the trigger.
awww yiss gonna watch this in an hour.
Was anyone else not surprised at all with Robin's reveal? I mean, I figured it out as soon as he pieced together who Batman was and revealed that he was an orphan. I thought it was pretty obvious from that point on, especially since he got so much screen time.
That bit alone gave quite a bit away, but also his reaction to shooting some of Bane's goons, his fascination with Batman, how eager he was, etc. All built up to give it away before the move was even half over I felt. Some of the bigger twists were a big obvious.
this movie took an absolutely masterful nosedive at the end. my girlfriend left the theater when robin was revealed , and my friend and i just laughed hysterically at everything else. bad first act, great second act, one of the worst endings in recent memory.
i will say that everything from batman being broken to batman's final confrontation with bane was amazing.
it just got too ridiculous. talia suddenly became the main villain, bane gets killed by catwoman and is then immediately forgotten about, robin's suddenly in the movie at the end it was just a lot that the movie seemed to want me to accept, and i really couldn't. it's a shame, because i was loving the movie up until that point. i thought it was the best of the trilogy up until then.
You're really going to let the very last scene in the movie which was just a nod to Robin and had nothing to do with the movie as a whole ruin it?
i know he was always in the movie, i was just really hoping he wouldn't turn out to be.
glad you guys liked the movie, though. the ending kind of ruined things for me.
half in the bag raises a lot of good points about the ending. the movie is more about the theme and emotion, so a lot of what happened was necessary. honestly, i feel like the movie would've worked very well as an actual comic book.
I think I agree with MovieBob on this film-
Great plot, great actors, but lacking structure.
Good movie overall, but it definitely didn't top the second one.
because it would have been better if he wasn't robin but instead was just a random cop that nobody had heard of before, had nothing to do with the batman comic/franchise, but just happened to be there at the right moment and sort shit out. No, I think it was a great choice to make him "become" Robin. It gives his character more meaning to the whole story and Gotham won't remain without a vigilante. He basically takes Batman's place and it gives a sense of prosperity and hope to the city. Him becoming robin makes it all fit, if he wasn't it would have been rather nonsensical.
As the guys in the Half In The Bag video just above us said, and I agree on them about it; The film was never really about the villains, it was never really about how they would be defeated, it was about Batman rising again after these 8 years, him coming back from being broken, and re-establishing himself as an symbol for all the citizens of Gotham, to give them hope. It was also about Bruce trying to start living again, to stop being this shut in cripple. The villains were there to drive the plot, to give the challenges he'd need.
But the villains were still bitching to watch, Bane had an amazing presence in almost every scene, even if he was mumbly and awkward to understand sometimes. Talia was hinted at pretty early into the film, and smaller hints were dropped throughout. But Bane's death was kinda balls. So sudden, and instantly forgotten.
bane was amazing in this film. i don't think there's anything they could've done to make his character better. even his voice being really up-front in the mix was a good choice.
It wasn't very sudden, you just weren't very astute. I knew she was Talia from her first appearance by her accent. I bet who I went to see the movie with that she was Talia and the main villain her very first appearance.
Saw the IMAX version today. Big disappointment for me though, as I got there late and had fucking sit 3 rows from the screen. So I didn't get the best perspective. Can't say it still wasn't amazing.
I'm glad I was able to take in my details and absorb what I missed when I was sleep deprived during the trilogy event.
I had trouble understanding last 30mins the most. But I caught all the subtle ques second time around.
I hate to say it, but this second viewing didn't have me feeling quite as emotional as the first one. I didn't have much anticipation of certain things happening, so there were parts I really felt hopelessness. I thought the bomb was going to destroy Gotham. I thought a lot of things.
One of the most depressing scenes to me was when Gordon was struggling to put the signal scrambler in the bomb container. The struggle alone was bad, but then the fact that it wasn't going to stop the bomb was worse. The bomb still needed to be brought off the island somehow, and at that point, it wasn't fully clear if Bats was down and out.
Equally as depressing was when Blake was trying to comfort the kids, telling them they will be safe in the bus, all while Foley was saying "What are you doing?" It's an atom bomb! There is nowhere to go!".
i'm not very familiar with the al ghul parts of the batman mythos, and it's been a long time since i watched batman begins. having talia around was necessary for batman to tie up all his loose ends before leaving to lead his own life, but the way they went about it seemed kind of off to me. i feel like i need to re-watch the whole trilogy now
The main problem was that they underplayed the romance between Talia and Bruce. Talia [I]does[/I] love Bruce, but the movie adaptation of her made it seem like it was all an act to move her father's plan forward. She would also never do this. Her comic counterpart loves her father to death, but she was never big on the destroying the city thing.
I really liked the Robin twist. They weren't saying Blake was to become Robin, I think they were pretty much saying he was Robin the whole time. They said his full name is Robin. If you watch the movie he plays the sidekick role the whole time. If anything the ending is implying anything it's implying Robin is becoming Batman while he's dead which is exactly what happened in the comics
On a non-spoiler note, I have the same problem with this movie as I do with all the Nolan movies. Raz al Ghul is pronounced "Raysh ahl Gool"
And you can't just say "He can pronounce it any way he likes." because it's a saying in Arabic, not a name.
didn't talia actually have a son with bruce in the comics?
they didn't have his name actually be robin. maybe i'm just too picky.
i just really want to know why they killed off bane the way they did. i know he had to die, but having selina bust in, rocket him in the chest and drop a one-liner? it felt like a last-minute addition
did anyone else find it extremely stupid that they sent 3000 officers into the sewers after Bane? Couldn't they have just sent a SWAT team or something? Also it bugged me near the end where all the police officers just run at the mercs who are firing automatic weapons. No wonder the city needs the batman.
the city had learned from past experiences how badly villains like the joker and bane can fuck everything up, especially gordon. they knew they had no batman to save them, so they sent all their firepower down there and got fucked over. the police vs. bane's army scene seemed a bit odd, though.
and why did they send every single cop? In a city like Gotham I presume there need to be some officers patrolling around, or some sort of security guard somewhere (like in a bank). And the stadium had NO security. like none at all. In reality a sports event in a huge stadium has tons of security and police ready for potential agry supporter groups and shit.
And, in the first half of the movie, when James Gordon goes in the sewer and gets attacked, why the hell do they decide to stop the police operation and leave the area? Bane's undergound base was obviously somewhere down that specific manhole. There is a terrorist base underground and they decide to leave it alone and come back another day? Bah.
Nolan has a nack for changing peoples first names. Lots of gang members and shit are in the comics with different first names.
"Ahh man there's a fucking gang of terrorists in the sewers"
"Ah yes. The "Masked Man". We have dismissed these claims"
"Dude. I'm in hospital. You can't fake this shit"
"Dude you all saw the fucking explosion"
"There's other dead cops down there!"
"Fucking Alfred manages to find everything out about this guys back story. A fucking butler. You guys just instantly debunk it"
"HE JUST FUCKING ROBBED THE STOCK EXCHANGE"
"What's that? Masked man? In the sewers? You have proof? Sorry I can't hear you over my pointless chase of Batman. Anybody that suggests you might be right is a hot headed cop. I don't care if you're my senior"
I just got back. The ending was really sad until, well, those who've seen it know why it wasn't sad any more.
This might have been mentioned before
but was that doctor guy in the prison the same as that guy in that mombasa basement in inception? When they first meet the chemist
What language were they speaking in the prison anyways? I've heard it's Moroccan but I'm not sure it's true...