1. Post #401
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    why is a 2 door mustang bigger then my station wagon

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  2. Post #402
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    You should come to America, our roads are pretty damn big
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  3. Post #403
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    September 2008
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    Holy fucking shit, a running Dodge minivan!!!


    Our '96 has 160,000 miles and no transmission anymore. Well, specifically, no fourth gear, but the fluid's burnt so if we try to drive it first, second, third and reverse won't be far behind. Fucking Ultradrive. On a somewhat related note there is now a strict "No Mopars Allowed" rule regarding cars we buy.
    Our '99 Dodge caravan has 150k miles and runs great still, only issues were deer destroying the front when we hit them, and the transmission sometimes kicked it from drive into neutral but that was an easy fix
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  4. Post #404
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    It's funny actually, my parents had a '90 Town & Country (Chrysler's Caravan) and hit a deer with it as well. For a long time it was green with fake wood panelling and had a maroon fender and door on it. My dad really liked that van, only problem it ever had was the alternator took a shit on us after ~160k or so, and my dad's friend who picked it up with his towtruck torched it along with another car my dad bought and his own towtruck (insurance job).

    Sigh. The nerve of some people. That van was sweet as hell! I grew up being hauled around in that beast. Was a great van. 80s mopar and early 90s are amazing. The 2.2/2.5 and their turbo variants are some of my favorite engines ever made.

    And it's hard to make it on my favorite engines list, I'm very picky when it comes to powerplants.
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  5. Post #405
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    brad you're like an adopting parent, you like things no one else does.

    like its common that everyone thinks the 80s, especially american cars, were some of the worst cars ever made. yet you go head over heels for some
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  6. Post #406
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    It's not the cars I'm all that fond of -- even my favorite 80s dodge, the Daytona, had several things about it I'd have changed.

    But the Chrysler K car engine (2.2/2.5) was an incredible engine. They managed to suck 175 horsepower and 175 ft-lbs of torque out of a low-boost turbocharged eight-valve 4 cylinder, which is amazing. With 16 valves they managed to squeeze 50 more horsepower using the same turbo setup. They have incredible potential. I don't see why they aren't used more, even in RWD purposes (since they did come in FR layout, with the Dakota).

    I really wish there was a Dodge equivalent to the fox body mustang -- I'd be all over that.



    But yeah, I do like some strange cars.
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  7. Post #407
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    You should come to America, our roads are pretty damn big
    Seriously, I rage (I live in america) when there are some streets in my city that allow parking on both sides but make it like sticking your dick into a pencil sharpener sized hole when going down it. Espically just happens two fucking hummer owners decide to park across from each other.

    But then i love how we can have 5 hummers across and still have room for a ford f-150 heavy duty
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  8. Post #408
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    brad you're like an adopting parent, you like things no one else does.

    like its common that everyone thinks the 80s, especially american cars, were some of the worst cars ever made. yet you go head over heels for some
    Cars maybe. Trucks? Can't go wrong with 'em. And honestly most of the issue with American cars isn't reliability so much as handling. They drove awfully. Understeer, body roll, and the cheaper ones rode quite hard. They were also quite heavy.


    I see an awful lot of 'em still chugging along though.
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  9. Post #409
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    It was quality overall, not handling, or reliability. There are tons of nimble American cars that came out of the 80s. A lot of them were Chryslers. The Omni GLHS, Shelby Charger, Daytona Turbo Z, CSX, their captive Mitsubishi imported Colt GT Turbo and Conquest... Then there was Chevrolet's Citation X-11, and of course the Monza. Ford had the Escort GT, the not very well known EXP, and their late entry into 80s automobiling, the Probe GT.

    And many of those were far from heavy. The CSX weighed in at 2600 pounds, which isn't bad at all, and considering it has 175hp and 175ft-lbs of torque, it was quite fast on its feet.

    The Citation X-11 weighed in at ~2500 give or take some change, which isn't bad either. Considering its rally roots I'm sure it was pretty nimble or it wouldn't have been the choice for quite a few drivers back in the day.

    The Ford EXP is probably the lightest car in the category though, barely weighing in at over 2000 pounds. That's good, too, considering they were just turbocharged, low, mean, and prettier Escorts.



    There were a lot of good things out of the 80s. It was basically an era of trial for automakers, they were stuck in middle of a shit storm trying to polish one turd to be shinier than the rest. And sometimes, it worked. Sometimes.

    Trucks, though -- I'm not a truck guy really, but the 80s had some sweet pickups. The Rams through that timeline are great trucks. And Chevy had some good shit too. Ford... They made trucks, sure. Not much to say about them. I don't think any Ford pickup was prettier than Chevy or Dodge since 1957.

    I mean, come on:





    Look at those beautiful hunks of metal! 1957 was a great year for Chevrolet and Dodge trucks.

    Too bad it was the year Ford took a shit on their design table:


    I don't think that truck is anywhere near as pretty as its predecessor or rivalling trucks.
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  10. Post #410
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    I love all three, and fuckin love the late 80's boxy as fuck ford pickups since that was basically the truck i grew up in.

    Chuggin along in a 87 n/a powerstroke F-250 listening to my dads ccr tapes while broing down a dirt road
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  11. Post #411
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    It was quality overall, not handling, or reliability. There are tons of nimble American cars that came out of the 80s. A lot of them were Chryslers. The Omni GLHS, Shelby Charger, Daytona Turbo Z, CSX, their captive Mitsubishi imported Colt GT Turbo and Conquest... Then there was Chevrolet's Citation X-11, and of course the Monza. Ford had the Escort GT, the not very well known EXP, and their late entry into 80s automobiling, the Probe GT.

    And many of those were far from heavy. The CSX weighed in at 2600 pounds, which isn't bad at all, and considering it has 175hp and 175ft-lbs of torque, it was quite fast on its feet.

    The Citation X-11 weighed in at ~2500 give or take some change, which isn't bad either. Considering its rally roots I'm sure it was pretty nimble or it wouldn't have been the choice for quite a few drivers back in the day.

    The Ford EXP is probably the lightest car in the category though, barely weighing in at over 2000 pounds. That's good, too, considering they were just turbocharged, low, mean, and prettier Escorts.
    Those are sports models and not representative of the majority of what they sold. For every one of those made, ten porker New Yorker/Crown Vic/Caprices were made.

    There were a lot of good things out of the 80s. It was basically an era of trial for automakers, they were stuck in middle of a shit storm trying to polish one turd to be shinier than the rest. And sometimes, it worked. Sometimes.
    It was an era of transition. Carbs were falling out of favor, but EFI was still having teething issues. Companies were trying all sorts of random shit. Electronic carbs, TBI, sequential port FI, and none of it worked as well as an old fashioned carb. They got it sorted by the time OBD-II came around though.



    Trucks, though -- I'm not a truck guy really, but the 80s had some sweet pickups. The Rams through that timeline are great trucks. And Chevy had some good shit too. Ford... They made trucks, sure. Not much to say about them.
    I'll say mine has 300,000 miles on it, runs beautifully, and hasn't been rebuilt. Can't go wrong with longevity like that.

    I don't think any Ford pickup was prettier than Chevy or Dodge since 1957.
    They were all more or less equal as far as styling goes.

    I mean, come on:





    Look at those beautiful hunks of metal! 1957 was a great year for Chevrolet and Dodge trucks.

    Too bad it was the year Ford took a shit on their design table:


    I don't think that truck is anywhere near as pretty as its predecessor or rivalling trucks.

    I can't say I liked the looks of any trucks back then. they were well made sure, but I just don't like bubbly styling, and you can't get any bubblier until you start looking at Aveos. Also, Fleetside > Stepside.


    Of the ones you posted I'd take the Dodge, but that's because it's a fleetside.

    Edited:

    I love all three, and fuckin love the late 80's boxy as fuck ford pickups since that was basically the truck i grew up in.

    Chuggin along in a 87 n/a powerstroke F-250 listening to my dads ccr tapes while broing down a dirt road
    Holy shit, you've got a running Powerjoke?!
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  12. Post #412
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    Holy shit, you've got a running Powerjoke?!
    Needed a new heater hose in 2002
    Dad said fuck it, put it up for sale (201,000 miles)
    No one bought it, said it would go in the back yard and be my first truck
    Cry child tears of joy at thought of having a truck at the age of 9
    Week later some guy from Central jersey stops by and is like hey i need a plow truck ive got whatever amount of cash he had
    So my dad sold it, guy used it to plow snow till around 06 when we stopped seeing it on his plot on the way to the range.


    I fucking loved that truck man, had this amazing melded smell of diesel fuel and pipe tobacco in the cab.

    Shit if i had that truck today i would snuggle a cummins under the hood and give it new life

    sigh.
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  13. Post #413
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    July 2007
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    Needed a new heater hose in 2002
    Dad said fuck it, put it up for sale (201,000 miles)
    No one bought it, said it would go in the back yard and be my first truck
    Cry child tears of joy at thought of having a truck at the age of 9
    Week later some guy from Central jersey stops by and is like hey i need a plow truck ive got whatever amount of cash he had
    So my dad sold it, guy used it to plow snow till around 06 when we stopped seeing it on his plot on the way to the range.


    I fucking loved that truck man, had this amazing melded smell of diesel fuel and pipe tobacco in the cab.

    Shit if i had that truck today i would snuggle a cummins under the hood and give it new life

    sigh.
    Haha. I'd snuggle a 460 or a built 300 down in there if it were mine, mainly because I wouldn't have to fabricate motor mounts or anything. Just drop right in, won't even need a new bellhousing. There's also the fact that I just don't like the sound of the Cummins.

    Maybe a Detroit Diesel 4-53T if I absolutely had to keep it diesel. Those little guys sound fucking awesome.
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  14. Post #414
    Dennab
    July 2009
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    A graphic representation of the amount of Mustang sticking out on the main road I use to get to College.

    Here in america, mustangs are tiny compared to most cars/trucks.
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  15. Post #415
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  16. Post #416
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    I did wash the Golf in the weekend and was hoping to get pics of it clean today....
    and then it snowed like fuck suddenly.
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  17. Post #417
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    #205 getting some new shoes and a general spruce up!
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  18. Post #418
    I HAVE A ROTARY BECAUSE ITS GODDAMN AWESOME!
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    Taken after going through the car wash while testing the new exhaust. (Sounds bitchen, btw)
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  19. Post #419
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    Always meant to ask, is your car painted like that because it's still a work in progress or that's what you want?
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  20. Post #420
    I HAVE A ROTARY BECAUSE ITS GODDAMN AWESOME!
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    WIP. I need to do a bit of body work before i can paint the rest, and now that I'm working to get the money to do it, i don't have the time.
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  21. Post #421
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    Are you going red or black?
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  22. Post #422
    I HAVE A ROTARY BECAUSE ITS GODDAMN AWESOME!
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    Black. Although i have thought of ditching the whole spray paint black and getting it professionally done, in which case I've had a gunmetal mindset for about a year now.
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  23. Post #423
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    I decided to take pic's of me and my dad's vehicles.
    My 99 Audi A6 Avant

    Light flares. ART!

    Shared 94 Chevy Suburban


    Cleanest under hood of a vehicle with 256k miles I ever saw!

    And my dad's 08 Chevy Suburban
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  24. Post #424
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    Drove to town for some fucking victory food.

    Jap and B came with. They wanted to ride in the car.

    Chav motherfucker revved his weak toyota at me in the drivethru like some sort of fucking revving contest.

    Edited:

    I won.
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  25. Post #425
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    yeah bradley!
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  26. Post #426
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    Drove to town for some fucking victory food.

    Jap and B came with. They wanted to ride in the car.

    Chav motherfucker revved his weak toyota at me in the drivethru like some sort of fucking revving contest.

    Edited:

    I won.
    God damn I want a stripped out lightweight 80s Honda so bad

    Edited:



    Edited:



    Edited:

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  27. Post #427
    Can i have a tital Dav0r?
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    Me too dude. I wouldn't want it as a daily driver though (I don't think bradleys is stripped out).
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  28. Post #428
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    I wish I could afford an EK9 Civ. They might be imports and they might almost always be associated with ricers, but god damn.. I drove a friend's once and apart from my 106 (Yeah right.) it was the most fun I've had driving a car, that engine doesn't seem to even HAVE a rev limit.

    Edit- Although I'm surprised my Pug can go all the way to 7000 revs.
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  29. Post #429
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    God damn I want a stripped out lightweight 80s Honda so bad

    Edited:

    I've never seen one of those before.
    Is it an Integra?
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  30. Post #430
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    I've never seen one of those before.
    Is it an Integra?
    Accord Hatchback.
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  31. Post #431
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    Accord Hatchback.
    Ahhh. We got the Aerodeck.


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  32. Post #432
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    I have a chance to get an accord hatchback which has the cleanest body I have ever seen on one with a blown headgasket for $600, the shittiest part is that I have the money for it but I can't have anymore cars..
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  33. Post #433
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    Haha. I'd snuggle a 460 or a built 300 down in there if it were mine, mainly because I wouldn't have to fabricate motor mounts or anything. Just drop right in, won't even need a new bellhousing. There's also the fact that I just don't like the sound of the Cummins.

    Maybe a Detroit Diesel 4-53T if I absolutely had to keep it diesel. Those little guys sound fucking awesome.
    I don't get why you would suggest swapping in inferior engines. All the Powerstrokes are great motors and better than the gas jobs. The Detroits aren't bad, but if I remember right they have less power than the stock Powerstroke would, so it would be counterproductive unless you were swapping from a gas job to a Detroit.
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  34. Post #434
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    I think the idea was to keep a ford motor in one (yes i know international diesel), while i was saying i would of put a cummins engine in it
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  35. Post #435
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    Me too dude. I wouldn't want it as a daily driver though (I don't think bradleys is stripped out).
    Mine's a STD (Base model, "Standard"). With full interior I weigh around ~2000 pounds, stripping it out really isn't needed.

    Edited:

    Also FUCK I love my car.
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  36. Post #436
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    my friend has a vw polo mk2 and it weights like 1650 pounds
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  37. Post #437
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    The hatch is finally done for now:







    Now to get some corner lights... And drop it.
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  38. Post #438
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    My Dad found pictures of his 66' GTO


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  39. Post #439
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    I think the idea was to keep a ford motor in one (yes i know international diesel), while i was saying i would of put a cummins engine in it
    The idea is to keep an engine in it that will still be running after the apocalypse, and to put it bluntly I don't believe a Powerstroke could do that.

    I don't get why you would suggest swapping in inferior engines. All the Powerstrokes are great motors and better than the gas jobs. The Detroits aren't bad, but if I remember right they have less power than the stock Powerstroke would, so it would be counterproductive unless you were swapping from a gas job to a Detroit.


    Inferior? No. Ford had to stop production of the 460 before the Powerstroke ever took off, as people ordered it more often. It made as much power, was more reliable, really the only 'minus' was how thirsty it was. The Powerstroke could make 20MPG average, the 460 barely better than 12.


    By the way, you're the first person I've EVER heard swear by a Powerstroke. People do it all the time regarding gassers, Duramax diesels, Cummins diesels and the like, but I've never heard anyone say they'd choose a Powerstroke. Not even Ford guys like myself. You're a rare one indeed.


    Oh, and don't doubt the 4-53T's power. Those things will move 747s around. They'll be just fine for anything you would be advised to use a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup to tow.

    Edited:

    My Dad found pictures of his 66' GTO



    Oooh, niiice. Hope it had a stick in it.
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  40. Post #440
    I HAVE A ROTARY BECAUSE ITS GODDAMN AWESOME!
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    Here we go again...

    The auto-genius strikes again
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