1. Post #561
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    April 2007
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    Just ordered a pack of the brand new Ernie Ball Cobalt strings ive heard good things about them.
    Where did you even find them for sale? I've been looking around for weeks, and everywhere seems to be saying later this month.
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  2. Post #562
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    April 2006
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    amps are overpriced
    $10 tubes, $2000 amps.
    Yeah, there's a problem there.
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  3. Post #563
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    absinthe's Avatar
    June 2005
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    nah all the work that actually goes into making an amp justifies the price
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  4. Post #564
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    marshall amps are overpriced
    There's fenders for way more than they're worth.

    Anything vintage is overpriced nowadays.

    Edited:

    *Anything from major companies
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  5. Post #565
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    i picked up a vintage marshall for 400$
    and i picked up a vintage fender for like 900$

    you guys need to learn how to shop
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  6. Post #566
    loves SHART and apologizes for being a dick
    absinthe's Avatar
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    elaborate on your process of picking those up

    cause I prefer my method of clicking a couple buttons on musician's friend and having it arrive at my door a few days later

    Edited:

    that sounded kinda really defensive that's not how I meant it

    I meant "I am superior to you in every way"
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  7. Post #567
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    lol musician's friend.
    you gotta dig deeper if you want cool gear.
    i know a lot of musicians and they always either have some gear or know someone else who wants to sell gear and you always get a good deal if you go by a friend.

    craigslist sometimes has good deals too.
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  8. Post #568
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    well I managed to find a JTM 60 for 200 on gumtree

    did I do a good? I think it's an old 90s tube head.
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  9. Post #569
    Played it for the plot
    Dennab
    October 2008
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    cool gear doesn't move unless you make an offer. check out local live music acts and if anyone has anything really cool offer $700 for it and hope for the best
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  10. Post #570
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    Dennab
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    well I managed to find a JTM 60 for 200 on gumtree

    did I do a good? I think it's an old 90s tube head.
    the JTM60 is an awesome amp yes. it sounds nothing like a marshall though. it sounds and it's built a lot more like an old fender amp.

    and it's a combo amp.
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  11. Post #571
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    Where did you even find them for sale? I've been looking around for weeks, and everywhere seems to be saying later this month.
    this is where i am getting them from, i assume you live in the UK?

    http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~...1~ID~16959.asp
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  12. Post #572
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    the JTM60 is an awesome amp yes. it sounds nothing like a marshall though. it sounds and it's built a lot more like an old fender amp.

    and it's a combo amp.
    They made JTM60 heads.

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  13. Post #573
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    April 2007
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    this is where i am getting them from, i assume you live in the UK?

    http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~...1~ID~16959.asp
    Nope, America. Guess I'm still stuck waiting D:
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  14. Post #574
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    September 2008
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    I'm trying to convince him to get a Tiny Terror for 175.

    Edited:

    now he's making me mad.

    his argument is basically "I want a marshall crunch, classic sound, lol everything else is shit"

    he doesn't even respect the MG series for what it is (cheaper, more affordable amps, but a full range of power choices)
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  15. Post #575
    "For I have dined on honey dew..."
    Mark364's Avatar
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    Nope, America. Guess I'm still stuck waiting D:
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acces...79095000000000

    Edited:

    damn $9 is fucking cheap for those i payed 12 for mine...
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  16. Post #576
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    April 2007
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    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acces...79095000000000

    Edited:

    damn $9 is fucking cheap for those i payed 12 for mine...
    Yeah they don't ship until April 2nd
    Still not available on the US market...and now delayed by a whole month and a half
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  17. Post #577
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    June 2006
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    The post is here, The post is here.
    Letters come from far and near.
    All year round they make me wanna cheer!



    I'm set for the netherlands =)
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  18. Post #578
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    What's better in your guys opinion, A big muff or metal zone? Because i want to use a distortion pedal through the clean channel on my amp, I get a better response that way.
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  19. Post #579
    Played it for the plot
    Dennab
    October 2008
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    What's better in your guys opinion, A big muff or metal zone? Because i want to use a distortion pedal through the clean channel on my amp, I get a better response that way.
    I prefer the big muff but really those aren't comparable pedals
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  20. Post #580
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    They made JTM60 heads.

    oh that's wicked. i wouldn't mind having one of those.

    Edited:

    What's better in your guys opinion, A big muff or metal zone? Because i want to use a distortion pedal through the clean channel on my amp, I get a better response that way.
    uhm one's a fuzz pedal, you know that right?


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  21. Post #581
    Played it for the plot
    Dennab
    October 2008
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    they say fuzz but it's really just straight dirt
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  22. Post #582
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    December 2009
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    What's better in your guys opinion, A big muff or metal zone? Because i want to use a distortion pedal through the clean channel on my amp, I get a better response that way.
    The Big Muff is a great old school OD/Dirt pedal, the Metal Zone is a horrible modern high gain pedal. What sound are you looking for? Because for old school stuff, Big Muff every time, for new stuff, you can do much better than the Metal Zone

    Edited:

    oh that's wicked. i wouldn't mind having one of those.
    From what I've heard they have pretty serious reliability issues to do with heat distribution. A lot of them break down but the ones that don't will probably last longer than you, that seems to be the consensus. Probably explains why they only got made for like a year
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  23. Post #583
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    April 2006
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    nah all the work that actually goes into making an amp justifies the price
    I've never seen how.

    I'm not going to pretend Bugera has any idea what they're doing, and I'm not going to go out of my way to buy something just to rip it apart and examine the circuit, but the fact that you can find a $800 clone of a $2000 amp is a fairly good indication that that $2000 amp isn't worth $2000.
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  24. Post #584
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    lol you can buy a Minimoog for 2000, and that's infinitely more complex and better made.
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  25. Post #585
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    Clones will use cheaper components, but that still doesn't account for the price increase.

    Pricing is also used to increase the perception of quality.
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  26. Post #586
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    Clones will use cheaper components, but that still doesn't account for the price increase.
    Well, and, if we're using Bugera as an example, they skimp on the shit that has no impact on the unit, like the faceplate, wire management, and other mostly cosmetic stuff. Which means even the clones are holding out on us, hahaha.
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  27. Post #587
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    From what I've heard they have pretty serious reliability issues to do with heat distribution.
    oh that's easily fixed. my JTM30 stopped having heat issues once i changed the tubes completely.
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  28. Post #588
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    December 2009
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    oh that's easily fixed. my JTM30 stopped having heat issues once i changed the tubes completely.
    Well the JTM60 has a different circuit from the original JTMs, the original JTMs are Point to Point I believe, the 60 is a PCB, and the PCB is attached to the heat sink for the tubes in a stroke of engineering genius

    Edited:

    Well, and, if we're using Bugera as an example, they skimp on the shit that has no impact on the unit, like the faceplate, wire management, and other mostly cosmetic stuff. Which means even the clones are holding out on us, hahaha.
    There is absolutely no way, even for a second, that I believe that Bugera are using the same parts as Mesas in their amps
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  29. Post #589
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    Well the JTM60 has a different circuit from the original JTMs, the original JTMs are Point to Point I believe, the 60 is a PCB, and the PCB is attached to the heat sink for the tubes in a stroke of engineering genius

    Edited:



    There is absolutely no way, even for a second, that I believe that Bugera are using the same parts as Mesas in their amps
    ...But they're supposed to be clones of Peavey from what I understood
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  30. Post #590
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    ...But they're supposed to be clones of Peavey from what I understood
    They make Mesa clones too.
    There is absolutely no way, even for a second, that I believe that Bugera are using the same parts as Mesas in their amps
    Oh, sure, I wasn't trying to imply they were.
    My point is you can tell even Bugera crap is overpriced, because they're cutting corners on everything. Cosmetic stuff like that doesn't represent a large portion of an amplifier's cost, and you can find better-built heads in the same price range, so it's clear even making a clone they're trying to charge the absolute maximum possible for the absolute minimum production cost.

    Edited:

    Come to think of it, how much do you think a broken high end amplifier sells for? Might be fun to tear something pricey but ruined open just to get an idea of the parts used and see what they run for.
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  31. Post #591
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    December 2009
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    Oh, sure, I wasn't trying to imply they were.
    My point is you can tell even Bugera crap is overpriced, because they're cutting corners on everything. Cosmetic stuff like that doesn't represent a large portion of an amplifier's cost, and you can find better-built heads in the same price range, so it's clear even making a clone they're trying to charge the absolute maximum possible for the absolute minimum production cost.

    Edited:

    Come to think of it, how much do you think a broken high end amplifier sells for? Might be fun to tear something pricey but ruined open just to get an idea of the parts used and see what they run for.
    My mistake, I thought that's what you meant

    Edited:

    ...But they're supposed to be clones of Peavey from what I understood
    Initially, they also do Marshall and Mesa clones though
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  32. Post #592
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    Dennab
    October 2008
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    They make Mesa clones too.

    Oh, sure, I wasn't trying to imply they were.
    My point is you can tell even Bugera crap is overpriced, because they're cutting corners on everything. Cosmetic stuff like that doesn't represent a large portion of an amplifier's cost, and you can find better-built heads in the same price range, so it's clear even making a clone they're trying to charge the absolute maximum possible for the absolute minimum production cost.

    Edited:

    Come to think of it, how much do you think a broken high end amplifier sells for? Might be fun to tear something pricey but ruined open just to get an idea of the parts used and see what they run for.
    usually in the range of a few hundred bucks at most, they're generally pretty cheap. they tend to move fast though since most amps can be fixed fairly easily.
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  33. Post #593
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    I was looking for a modern metal distortion pedal.
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  34. Post #594
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    the big muff is better suited for noise rock than metal.
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  35. Post #595
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    the big muff is better suited for noise rock than metal.
    Someone told me i should check it out though so i was wondering your opinions.

    second thought, i think he meant this one.

    http://www.zzounds.com/item--ELHMMUFF
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  36. Post #596
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    December 2009
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    Metal Muff maybe, Big Muff no
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  37. Post #597
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    i don't even know what a metal muff sounds like.


    kinda sounds like a grating version of the big muff i guess
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  38. Post #598
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    Dennab
    October 2008
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    big muff can do some old school metal too

    Edited:

    the metal muff is shit don't bother


    I stand by my opinion that the bass big muff pi is the best muff
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  39. Post #599
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    http://www.guitarfetish.com/Twin-Ove...es_p_2174.html


    I want to recommend that pedal for overdrive. It is excellent for the price (as always with GFS) and if you use both modes at once you can get a really nice distortion through the clean channel. It's pretty thick sounding.
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  40. Post #600
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    I'm deciding now, cause i want both a chunky djent sound for my 8 string coming in, and a distortion similar to that of Austrian death machine too.
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