1. Post #1601
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    Learn right handed guitar then, just because you're left handed doesn't mean you have to learn left handed guitar. It does involve both hands after all.
    Conventional wisdom states you put your dominant hand on whatever task is most repetitive and your other hand on whatever else, and picking is the most repetitive task in guitar playing. Just works better in general for most people.
    Then again, MAB and all those other nutjobs do fine as lefties playing right, so who the fuck knows.
    Problem is, I'm lefty, so I can't exactly just steal a friend's and learn on that.
    Hendrix got away with just restringing a right to play left...
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  2. Post #1602
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    Hendrix got away with just restringing a right to play left...
    Albert King didn't bother restringing his
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  3. Post #1603
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    Albert King didn't bother restringing his
    Neither did Hendrix at first (if memory serves).
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  4. Post #1604
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    Dennab
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    Conventional wisdom states you put your dominant hand on whatever task is most repetitive and your other hand on whatever else, and picking is the most repetitive task in guitar playing. Just works better in general for most people.
    Then again, MAB and all those other nutjobs do fine as lefties playing right, so who the fuck knows.

    Hendrix got away with just restringing a right to play left...
    It makes more sense for the dominant hand to do the more dexterous task, aka fretting.
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  5. Post #1605
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    Conventional wisdom states you put your dominant hand on whatever task is most repetitive and your other hand on whatever else, and picking is the most repetitive task in guitar playing. Just works better in general for most people.
    Then again, MAB and all those other nutjobs do fine as lefties playing right, so who the fuck knows.

    Hendrix got away with just restringing a right to play left...
    I reckon it'd probably be easier to learn lefty if you are a lefty, but it probably doesn't really matter in the long term as you grow accustomed to it. Plus, picking/fingering are foreign movements in the first place.
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  6. Post #1606
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    I've fooled around with a few guitars at various friend's houses, and it's safe to say that I vastly prefer playing left-handed. Anyway, I've narrowed it down to the two cheapest lefty-guitars I could find:

    Epiphone Les Paul Special II
    Squier Affinity Stratocaster

    I'm pretty low on cash, but I can probably save enough to buy one of these. Out of these two, which is better?

    What music do you want to play?
    Whatever comes naturally to me, I guess. I have a preference for punk, blues, indie, and a whole shitload of other genres, but I'd be happy playing whatever I wind up being best at. I guess I'd like to just aim for something that can play between genres.
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  7. Post #1607
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    A Strat or Les Paul would be good for you. What this forum usually tends to do when talking about getting Strats is get a used Fender mexican Strat off of someplace instead of a Squier.
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  8. Post #1608
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    A Strat or Les Paul would be good for you. What this forum usually tends to do when talking about getting Strats is get a used Fender mexican Strat off of someplace instead of a Squier.
    Thanks, that narrows it down pretty well for me! Hopefully I can find a relatively cheap one.
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  9. Post #1609
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    8-38? that sounds bloody awful.
    It is. I paid $7 for nothing.
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  10. Post #1610
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    The LP is a little more basic, but it should be a little bit cheaper, and comes in packages that include a cheap little solid state amp, guitar bag, picks, strap, etc, and these packages are similarly priced to the Squier by itself. If you already have an amp and accessories and stuff then this won't matter for you. Also in a store you can negotiate a deal so you could work out some kind of package with either one.

    The reduced complexity might not necessarily be a bad thing, either. It makes the guitar a lot easier to deal with and probably easier to approach. I'd personally rather set up the epiphone than the squier, I'm lazy. And I can't say I ever needed a tremelo when I was a beginner, really don't need one now, but that's up to you and how you play. Also the guitars will sound different, single coils vs humbuckers. And each unique individual will probably have a different level of quality so be sure you play it before you buy it.

    Other than that though they're essentially the same thing, usually this isn't true when comparing les pauls to strats, but this particular les paul is essentially just a strat cut into a different shape. Bolt on neck, everything on a single plane, minimal electronics, just some hardware differences between the two, specifically the bridge and pickups, but the build design is what it is because it's cheap, simple, and effective. The epiphone will probably weigh more.
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  11. Post #1611
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  12. Post #1612
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    The LP is a little more basic, but it should be a little bit cheaper, and comes in packages that include a cheap little solid state amp, guitar bag, picks, strap, etc, and these packages are similarly priced to the Squier by itself. If you already have an amp and accessories and stuff then this won't matter for you. Also in a store you can negotiate a deal so you could work out some kind of package with either one.

    The reduced complexity might not necessarily be a bad thing, either. It makes the guitar a lot easier to deal with and probably easier to approach. I'd personally rather set up the epiphone than the squier, I'm lazy. And I can't say I ever needed a tremelo when I was a beginner, really don't need one now, but that's up to you and how you play. Also the guitars will sound different, single coils vs humbuckers. And each unique individual will probably have a different level of quality so be sure you play it before you buy it.

    Other than that though they're essentially the same thing, usually this isn't true when comparing les pauls to strats, but this particular les paul is essentially just a strat cut into a different shape. Bolt on neck, everything on a single plane, minimal electronics, just some hardware differences between the two, specifically the bridge and pickups, but the build design is what it is because it's cheap, simple, and effective. The epiphone will probably weigh more.

    Surfing ebay, happened to also find this Les Paul.

    Right now I currently don't have the cash for either of these, but it's likely I'll be able to swing for them in a month or so. Thanks for the suggestions and advice! And I'll definitely see about getting a LP in a package, that could be nice. A friend of mine also suggested just taking a trip to the local guitar store to see if they have them there, I might be able to haggle the price down a bit seeing as lefties are probably difficult to sell.

    EDIT: Guy selling the Les Paul was also selling this, doesn't expire for about a month but I'm not too crazy about it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/EPIPHONE-G-3...item2a1cd409f4
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  13. Post #1613
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    The reduced complexity might not necessarily be a bad thing, either. It makes the guitar a lot easier to deal with and probably easier to approach.
    no no no i love the fact that the jazzmaster won't stay in tune unless you adjust the spring with the proper pressure so that the tremolo doesn't lock up.
    and of course the fact that sometimes you'll hit the top switch when you are strumming.

    and that the volume knob is also a tone knob.
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  14. Post #1614
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    That's a really good deal on the fender, but you can probably get the epi cheaper in a store. But definitely definitely try going to the store first because you can negotiate and you can always try it before you buy it, even with the boxed package deals.
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  15. Post #1615
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    Why do people design guitars so awkwardly in the way you described?

    Also, onto my build, a PAF (vintage repro) and a vintage repro P90 ought to be cool. Clear and sharp like the Iceman and some other bluesy sounds from the bridge.
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  16. Post #1616
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    I think it comes from over-thinking stuff. Like the jump from telecaster to stratocaster wasn't an overthought, it was just taking the concept and applying an actual guitarist's view to the design, really made it a great thing. But then it just got crazy, I think engineers stepped in again after the success of the strat.
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  17. Post #1617
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    Dennab
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    it adds to the charm. without the wacky bridge you wouldn't have all those interesting overtones popping up over the fretboard.

    and without that wacky switch you wouldn't have an easy killswitch.
    and without that wacky volume knob design, you'd have a functional volume knob and who wants that?
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  18. Post #1618
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    Dennab
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    the absurd feedback and weirdo overtones the jazzmaster creates are really the best things about it but you can't breathe on the damn thing without it going at least 20 cents off

    The worst part about a stratocaster is the volume knob placement, I keep hitting my hand against it

    the worst part about a telecaster is is that I can't think of anything objectively bad about them

    the worst part of literally every metal guitar ever (and also Rickenbackers) is that the necks are way too fucking thin I want a big fat baseball bat like on an old nocaster

    the worst thing about a gibson anything is that it's objectively bad in every way


    I think that covers everything
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  19. Post #1619
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    I have been listening to this for the last 6 hours! I really want that strat.


    And a lesson from Phil X...
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  20. Post #1620
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    Use spade bit to drill hole in headstock.
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  21. Post #1621
    Played it for the plot
    Dennab
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    that's not a hole
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  22. Post #1622
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    Correct that is the Freiheit guitars logo.
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  23. Post #1623
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    It makes more sense for the dominant hand to do the more dexterous task, aka fretting.
    Which is utterly meaningless as fretting is a nonstandard set of motions you have to train from the ground up, whereas picking is a basic wrist articulation.
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  24. Post #1624
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    My current room setup. I just got the red one today (SX Ursa 1). I'll post about it later.
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  25. Post #1625
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    the absurd feedback and weirdo overtones the jazzmaster creates are really the best things about it but you can't breathe on the damn thing without it going at least 20 cents off

    The worst part about a stratocaster is the volume knob placement, I keep hitting my hand against it

    the worst part about a telecaster is is that I can't think of anything objectively bad about them

    the worst part of literally every metal guitar ever (and also Rickenbackers) is that the necks are way too fucking thin I want a big fat baseball bat like on an old nocaster

    the worst thing about a gibson anything is that it's objectively bad in every way


    I think that covers everything
    I don't like telecasters for the body and headstock, also would make more sense if it was a neck through design.

    Also Gibson / Epiphone is good depending on price.
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  26. Post #1626
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    to Knowproblem , I'd say get the les paul, cauz these starter strat trems really gets easily out of tune even when blocked, the les paul will probably have a better tuning stability since its a tune-o-matic stoptail w/e + if you like anything heavy in music (well most of it) you'll probably get a better sound for that with humbuckers instead of single coils.


    Edit: after checking your ebay link, seems like almost my first guitar except its an epiphone, would be perfect.




    Tried DR neon strings (for the lulz) I'm quite surprised, they don't wear out that bad, and they last longer than the dunlop I put on it usually
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  27. Post #1627
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    Dennab
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    I don't like telecasters for the body and headstock, also would make more sense if it was a neck through design.

    Also Gibson / Epiphone is good depending on price.
    I said objectively
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  28. Post #1628
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    I don't like telecasters for the body and headstock, also would make more sense if it was a neck through design.

    Also Gibson / Epiphone is good depending on price.
    I love telecasters, I am not a fan of the style as well but for the sound I would compromise any day. But just like the Explorer, maybe it will grow on me.
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  29. Post #1629
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    Are there any replicas for the Dumble Steel String Singer? I know of the Hamiltone Six String Slinger and whatever the hell Mayer put out as a signature amp. Those are all hard to find and the dumbles are expensive as fuck.
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    Are there any replicas for the Dumble Steel String Singer? I know of the Hamiltone Six String Slinger and whatever the hell Mayer put out as a signature amp. Those are all hard to find and the dumbles are expensive as fuck.
    I remember seeing a kit a while back but I have no clue as to what it was called, based on a lot of the reviews I saw it was an amazing sounding amp. I will do some digging.
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  31. Post #1631
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    My guitar's almost finished. I'm pretty excited. Just got to cut what's left of the top wood, do the wiring, and install hardware and it's done.
    Having my own 7 string should be good fun.
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  32. Post #1632
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    i'm considering asking my brother just to swap guitars because I prefer his and he prefers mine + I want something I can change the strings to a heavier gauge on without it freaking out.
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  33. Post #1633
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    i'm considering asking my brother just to swap guitars because I prefer his and he prefers mine + I want something I can change the strings to a heavier gauge on without it freaking out.
    Any guitar can handle heavier strings as long as you adjust the truss rod.
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  34. Post #1634
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    i was more going for the tedious business of farting about adjusting the goddamn tremolo bridge, I don't know why i went for one in the first place
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  35. Post #1635
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    Still, at worst you'll need to adjust the truss rod, add a spring or two in the back, and adjust your intonation.

    But I do agree that floating bridges are generally a hassle, but only really if you like to change tunings.
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  36. Post #1636
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    i was more going for the tedious business of farting about adjusting the goddamn tremolo bridge, I don't know why i went for one in the first place
    I don't know why so many people have problems with them? I can adjust my trems fine, one floating and three 6 point. All mine relatively stay in tune with use too. Dunno whats wrong with everyone elses, out of adjustment maybe?
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  37. Post #1637
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    I got a cheapo Chinese 6 point on two of my guitars and with a proper setup they stay in tune even through absurd dive bombs and shit
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  38. Post #1638
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    My Edge is perfect once you tune it and get the nut locked
    Bet if the nut wasn't locked, it would still stay in tune with the strings clamped down tightly on the bridge.
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  39. Post #1639
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    Anybody know of a good (guitar) amp for less than 100?

    I'm looking for one that is an improvement over a really cheap practice amp, mainly for metal / rock stuff, any ideas?
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  40. Post #1640

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    Vypyr. That's what I'd pick in sub 250 range.
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