1. Post #201
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    I tried making a bird.



    Does anyone know where I can find tutorials for drawing with a mouse?
    It's crippling in two directions. As with clay crafting you get a deeper understanding of creating shapes, but not once during the making have you held a pencil. Drawing with a mouse won't allow you to develop with a pen nor with a tablet. Maximum Mod, I strongly suggest you use pen and paper. The time for when you have the money is another problem. Den dagen, den sorgen.

    As for where to start, I suggest just dribbling on a piece of paper until you see a shape or an idea. Just draw random lines all over until you see something and continue from there. It's quite fun and easily gives you ideas. Well atleast that's what it's like for me.

    Edited:

    At least that's how I do it when I want to force myself to draw something.
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  2. Post #202
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    I've seen some impressive things done with a mouse; this is one of them.

    If you refine the lines and work on getting some colour in there it'll look great
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  3. Post #203
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    If mouse artwork is impressive to you then this badass might interest you because he uses a mouse and a fucking trackball, have you ever tried to draw with a trackball? It's kind of like trying to chisel out a cliff with a toothbrush.
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  4. Post #204
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    If mouse artwork is impressive to you then this badass might interest you because he uses a mouse and a fucking trackball, have you ever tried to draw with a trackball? It's kind of like trying to chisel out a cliff with a toothbrush.
    Ausare makes some fantastic art in the MSpaint section, he's living proof that you can do fine without a tablet. One advantage that a tablet does bring however, is pressure sensitivity.
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  5. Post #205
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    Ausare makes some fantastic art in the MSpaint section, he's living proof that you can do fine without a tablet. One advantage that a tablet does bring however, is pressure sensitivity.
    You can always set brush width/flow/transparency/etc to be controlled by scroll wheel
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  6. Post #206
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    it just seems like learning to use a mouse to draw is a useless skill and its taking the long way round when i personally think that time could be much better spent actually learning to draw using a pencil
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  7. Post #207
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    it just seems like learning to use a mouse to draw is a useless skill and its taking the long way round when i personally think that time could be much better spent actually learning to draw using a pencil
    that's assuming that learning how to draw with a mouse takes a lot of time and energy, it really doesn't. At least, not enough for it to impair your drawing with a pencil or any other medium.
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  8. Post #208
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    but why spend time doing that when you could just be drawing with a pencil which i think would help you improve a lot more
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  9. Post #209
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    I wonder if it's easier to draw skinny people after drawing fat people?

    If so, my figure study class may just have a silver lining after all.
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  10. Post #210
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    well with skinny people you can actually see their muscle definition.

    with fat people, not so much.

    Edited:

    The body is not meant to be fat.
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  11. Post #211
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    I tried making a bird.



    Does anyone know where I can find tutorials for drawing with a mouse?
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  12. Post #212
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    but why spend time doing that when you could just be drawing with a pencil which i think would help you improve a lot more
    So you can do digital work until you get a tablet, obviously

    Edited:

    wow

    tracing from cripple porn
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  13. Post #213
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    So you can do digital work until you get a tablet, obviously

    Edited:



    wow

    tracing from cripple porn
    Ouch. What an embarrassing thing to get caught tracing from.
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  14. Post #214
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    oh man haha.
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  15. Post #215
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    but why spend time doing that when you could just be drawing with a pencil which i think would help you improve a lot more
    Why would you attempt to paint using your mouth instead of your hands despite having a fully functional body? Some people just want to experiment with different aesthetics. Each body part or physical action used to create marks will give a slightly different aesthetic to another.
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  16. Post #216
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    pretty sure that wasnt the reason he wanted to use a mouse but whatever, do what you want
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  17. Post #217
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    phahaha, my guess is it was just for fun though
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  18. Post #218
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    Ouch. What an embarrassing thing to get caught tracing from.
    Atleast I wasn't tracing the cripple porn part, and I have the worst imagination ever
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  19. Post #219
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    Some might argue that that was in fact what you should have done.

    Oh hey don't look at me like that, my hands aren't even near my dick.
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  20. Post #220
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    wow

    tracing from cripple porn
    I tried making a bird.



    Does anyone know where I can find tutorials for drawing with a mouse?
    It's crippling in two directions.
    amazing foreshadowing


    if something's a trace at least note that so this kind of stuff doesn't topple over your head. Tracing is fine to practice getting the hold of working your tools, but don't claim it as your own work nomatter how much time you put into it
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  21. Post #221
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    i like snow
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  22. Post #222
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    amazing foreshadowing


    if something's a trace at least note that so this kind of stuff doesn't topple over your head. Tracing is fine to practice getting the hold of working your tools, but don't claim it as your own work nomatter how much time you put into it
    Sorry, I forgot the word for it at the time.
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  23. Post #223
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    lazy as shit modular rifle. deadline tomorrow



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  24. Post #224
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    How does a bullet reach the chamber which would be in line with the barrel if the magazine is that far down? It's a nice design aside from the magazine position. The trigger looks a tad too far from the grip for comfort.
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  25. Post #225
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    it is pushed upwards by an extra looooooooong spring and then into the chamber or some shit
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  26. Post #226
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    a bucket-brigade of tiny robot arms handing bullets up to one another really fast
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  27. Post #227
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    Made most of the mold for my coffee table today, just need to fastened together, then I am going to make the rebar frame/leg setup. Here is the render of it again,

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  28. Post #228
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    You did that with a mouse? That's even more impressive.
    I did these with a mouse.
    To me, if you want to draw on paper, you use a pen. If you want to draw on a computer, you use a mouse.



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  29. Post #229
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    I did these with a mouse.
    To me, if you want to draw on paper, you use a pen. If you want to draw on a computer, you use a mouse.
    A tablet is infinitely better. No point learning two different skills, if you can draw on paper a tablet would benefit.
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  30. Post #230
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    A tablet is infinitely better. No point learning two different skills, if you can draw on paper a tablet would benefit.
    Fair enough. I might be able to nab one from my brother, his new Wacom just came in the mail.
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  31. Post #231
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    More practicing. Slowly getting better at shading, although some parts are still not quite right, same with the shape of the hand. It looks slightly off, although I can't pinpoint why.
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  32. Post #232
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    It is sort of a joke, but yes, this is how she wants it. I am changing as per her specifications after each version and she's very very happy with it now. Just fiddling with the text positioning and stuff.

    Edited:

    Ok, finished now. All parties very happy with it
    Haha she lives in warrandyte?
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  33. Post #233
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    So you can do digital art without a tablet.

    Nice tools help but you shouldn't let them be the limiting factor of what you can do.
    But having the right interface or medium for what you're trying to do is a lot more helpful than being technologically restrained. Sure you can cook with your feet but wouldn't it be so much simpler to use your hands?

    I think pen and paper are a viable option. When you can afford a tablet you already know how to draw with the stylus.

    Edited:

    I wonder if it's easier to draw skinny people after drawing fat people?

    If so, my figure study class may just have a silver lining after all.
    After drawing many not so fit models it's harder for me to draw beautiful shapes without constant effort. It's annoying.

    Edited:

    I did these with a mouse.
    To me, if you want to draw on paper, you use a pen. If you want to draw on a computer, you use a mouse.



    Did you know that the early computers used pens much like today's tablets when the mouse hadn't been invented yet?
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  34. Post #234
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    I did these with a mouse.
    no wonder the values are so muddy and the surfaces so uneven. i'm not sure what point you were making.....
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  35. Post #235
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    I'm not sure why you'd think drawing with a mouse would be the priority option just because it's a computer. It's obviously the most accessible method, but a bit crippling compared to working with a tablet (depending on who's doing it). Nevertheless, the pictures are pretty nice, especially for being moused.

    Did you know that the early computers used pens much like today's tablets when the mouse hadn't been invented yet?
    I'm trying to look stuff up but thanks to the ipad craze renaming anything with a screen a 'tablet', I can't search "first tablet" without being flooded by hipster news sites rambling on about apple and android devices. I did find some of the first mice though, neat. [1] [2]

    still, I know tablet interfaces have been around in one way or another. It kind of irks me when older architect types refer to it as a digitizer when they see me using it, because to them it's the same as this old junk, for inputting coordinates from a plan



    granted yes, it's a digitizer and the old stuff worked in the same way, the way they talk about it you can tell they haven't the slightest clue it can be used for anything other than point and click tracing, which just makes them look at you really confusedly if you're doing anything without papers on top of it
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  36. Post #236
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    In my spare time i make Backgrounds for my friends, and i thought i'd post two here. They're not as fancy-dancy hand drawn as most of your other guy's stuff it, but i try with them.


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  37. Post #237
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    More practicing. Slowly getting better at shading, although some parts are still not quite right, same with the shape of the hand. It looks slightly off, although I can't pinpoint why.
    Sorry if you're a fat dude and I offend you, but it looks overly wide

    Also I suspect you may have shifted your hand at some point in the middle of drawing it because the whole thumb section looks to be in skewed perspective as compared to the other half of the palm, and the fingers might be in yet another perspective.

    Hold your hand up to the screen and see if you can position it in exactly the same way as the drawing, 'cause I'm betting you won't be able to. Then you'll see where exactly you went wrong.
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  38. Post #238
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  39. Post #239
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    But having the right interface or medium for what you're trying to do is a lot more helpful than being technologically restrained. Sure you can cook with your feet but wouldn't it be so much simpler to use your hands?

    I think pen and paper are a viable option. When you can afford a tablet you already know how to draw with the stylus.

    Edited:



    After drawing many not so fit models it's harder for me to draw beautiful shapes without constant effort. It's annoying.

    Edited:



    Did you know that the early computers used pens much like today's tablets when the mouse hadn't been invented yet?
    No, I didn't.

    Edited:

    Ok, now I realize I sound like a dick.

    My point was that the paintings I posted aren't half bad. They are by no means perfect, but when I posted them originally I got a generally positive reaction. the Bearcat is about a year old now, so I understand it isn't up to snuff. The jets are recent, so any criticism on those is still relevant.

    I'm sorry for making this such a big deal.

    Here, take this WIP mech walker.



    Edited:

    Excellent values and rendering, but your proportions are off. His legs are very large.
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  40. Post #240
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    Excellent values and rendering, but your proportions are off. His legs are very large.
    His legs are just in the armor, dude. It makes them bigger
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