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Just a character I'm designing.
i love stalker
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I don't know what you mean about that, what placeholder?
Fair enough comment, but do you have any other suggestions?
I'm not happy with how the font turned out, I wanted it to be in a circular shape, but to not be warped or bulging like that. I'll give it another go. Unless you think scrap the circular idea?
I love feedback, but it's hard when I can't really gain anything from it.
Working with colors:
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the placeholder copy?
i would say there's no real reason to keep it in a circle, as it's likely to look bad and there's no good reason to put it in there. but if you really want to keep it in the circle then i'd try a more handwritten approach.
http://i48.tinypic.com/2rpwei8.gif
not that this is a perfect example for what you want, but as a quick example you see how the words fit into the pumpkin? something like that looks better than a really clean font being warped into a circle shape
Having "campfire songs" in a nice neat signature would look cool too since it kind of looks like a postcard to me
Yeah that was what I wanted to do, I tried it out with a handwritten approach just then but wasn't really satisfied with how it fit into the circle so I just decided to have it square.
That's kind of what I went for, I used the style of the Animal Collective logo.
I have 4 different versions here, but I'm not sure which one to go for. I'm leaning towards the 4th.
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Also, a friend pointed out that having the branch behind the red swirl looks weird, so I've changed that since then.
I'd suggest that you try removing the water drops and stretching the text across the top in one line - CAMPFIRE SONGS.
At the moment the composition feels off, especially with the title cramped up into that corner
Not really. You took some slight inspiration. But they're nowhere in the same alley.
The problem I have with your cover is that the graphics and photo doesn't work together. It just seems to random and not thought out.
I also feel that the only good thing about it is the photo and then other thing is put on it and degrades it.
But I don't really have any constructive criticism to bring in because I just flat out dislike what you're trying to do.
You should really do some research before you make such statements. There are multiple Animal Collective logos, I wasn't talking about that one.
Fair enough if you don't like the design. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't tell me it hasn't been thought out.
I started with a series of quick concept sketches, followed by thumbnails, testing space, and some rough layouts. I came to the conclusion that the current design is the best.
I appreciate your feedback, fair enough if you don't like the mixture of the graphics and the photographs, but I'm not the first to do it. Again I'd love if I could actually take something from the feedback and rework on the idea.
It's far too late in development to just scrap the idea and start again. So you're saying the only thing about it you don't like is the graphics over the top of the photograph? Well that was my idea from the start. I don't think it's entirely impossible for it to look good.
Do you have any suggestions? Why don't you like it? How can I fix it? It's hard when people have nothing constructive to work with.
Thanks for some actual constructive feedback.
I'll give that a go, I'll have to experiment with something else because I don't want to remove the rain drops completely because it's part of the theme.
I could possible put the text on the other side so it balances with the fire. But I thing centering it would look best, thanks.
Hopefully this isn't so terrible that you can't tell what it is
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Oh, sorry, I didn't read the quote properly. Thought you meant the cover design, not the text.
Just making different ideas doesn't make it thought out. That just means you've tested a lot of different things. I don't see any words on why you do what you do, why you use the elements you do, why you use those specific colours, why those kind of shapes, why a tree, why a sunset, etc etc. I'm not saying you haven't thought it out, but I can't see it in the piece nor in the process image there, so some explanation would help, then maybe I could provide some feedback on how to execute that idea and concept in a better (or worse depending on opinions and taste) way.
Like I said I don't like it because it have some plain curvy graphical elements on top of a photo that doesn't really look like they have any purpose there other than trying to look good. I see the whole fire and rain thing, but why are there fire and drops of water there in the first place? The photo is good as it is and it just seems ruined by some pointless "I want to do something cool and make some things that interact with the photo". So yeah, again, I need some explanation here because I just don't get it. What is the idea, your thoughts, your concept?
LAWLZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4VhnXRGI6U
Okay, okay.... I didn't make this... but I know the guy that did and I want to spread the word of his uber film makun skillz.
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Why does it need explaining?
It wouldn't truly be his product if he had to explain absolutely everything about it so you could have your input.
~so edgy~
By the way, nice artistic display picture. Did you make it yourself? I made mine myself.
Had to design the signage for a game store called 'Galaxy Games' for my VCD class at school.
I had to make the font on Illustrator then Photoshop it all. Without any Photoshop experience might I add
It's meant to be an alien like face, made up of gaming electronics
Yeah I don't know if you can read the some of the annotations. The fire is pretty obvious, the title being "Campfire Songs" The album is about having a warm and inviting sound, "that also made us think of campfire songs that you can sing with a bunch of people and everybody gets connected and feels good and safe." I mentioned the rain in the annotations, the samples/field recordings of the album being recorded on a screen porch outside, so you pick up noises like rain and such.
Why I couldn't just do a photo? I wasn't setting out to do simply a photograph in my brief, it was to combine graphical elements with a photograph/ a collage of photos. Sorry I haven't really explained it in full detail, but really I didn't think that was a prerequisite of posting in this thread. People usually just post their work and ask for comments and criticisms. You have a point being that you don't know what the subject/ brief was about. Hopefully you have a bit more of an idea of what I'm trying to do now.
If you're going for a warm and inviting feel then having rain in there alters that and creates a sense of conflict. If you had people sheltering from the rain under something with the warmth of a campfire then it would feel more warm and inviting
Try removing the background and find another position for the graphic thing. I think it's interesting enough, and the background is just colliding with it.
This makes me think of Journey not sure if it's intentional or not?
Love it so far though.
That ain't what this section is for
And stop talking all retarded if you please, most of us aren't kids in here
In our final we have to show evidence of style/technique influence from the artist we conducted our case study on.
I chose Storm Thorgerson, and his works/album covers are all photographs/photo-manipulation.
If I just did a graphic design, it wouldn't have any relevance to my case study, meaning I fail.
So judging from this thread, everyone's saying that the graphic of the fire doesn't work at all with the photograph.
It's much too late in the design process to fix it though. This is week 12 out of 13, it's due next week.
I'll just have to stick with what I have, and make a few adjustments based off what I've read. ie. centering the text, removing the rain.
I guess the problem should've been fixed in the initial concepts.
I swear I've seen a bunch of people mix graphics with photography, it's not impossible. Is there a way I can improve mine without scrapping the design completely?
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All I can think about when I see these "Campfire Songs" posts, is that one episode of Spongebob.
Here's one of the pieces I turned in for my studio art final. It was quite last minute but I think it turned out pretty well.
Penguin Drawing by John Gramza, on Flickr
Made a logo for some kid in economics and I found out he does not want to sell the idea and make some good money, instead he wants to keep it for himself so... fuck.... why did I join his group :[
[Zero Community]
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ZC?
Zero Community, essentially a community which has houses that can self sustain itself.
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any reason for the green and black? i'm not trying to be unfair, but at the moment it just looks like a naff gaming logo. it gives no hint as to what the company is about, it's quite poorly crafted and just... that's not the kind of impression a logo should give off
obvious gradients like that are bad in logos
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unless they loo k good
ravin raven
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Those examples have a lot of texture on them, maybe try adding to the fire and rain?
He wanted it to look simple. Some kid said it reminded him of mass effect so i am going to scrap it.
Was going to scrap it anyway, you are correct.
But the fire is so cold and bright, Give it more deep warm fire colours. The bottom part of the fire also comes from nowhere, it has a thin neck and there is a fire-branch that sticks out leaving an empty corner. It doesn't look like it's coming from a camp fire, it's just some random flame-like thing on a image of a tree. It's too literal without being literal enough (Campfire in the title so you make fire in the graphics, but in the end you only make flames and not flames that looks like they belong to an actual campfire, so it's just fire and not campfire)
The water is aiming for the fire, trying to put it out, it doesn't represent an ambient rain sound or feel at all, it represent a collision between two elements. I mean, look at them, they're practically charging towards the fire to attack it, and the fire is charging towards the raindrops as well. There is also nothing that implies a rainy sky in the photo as well, so there is a crash there as well.
I didn't suggest just leaving it as a photo, I was just mentioning that the graphics does not work together with the photo, they are working against it. There seems to be no relation between the graphics and the photo other than campfires being usually done in a forest. But it isn't even a forest, just a tree and a sunset, and then there is coming rain from a clearly not-rainy sky. They just crash, they don't communicate. A.K.A it looks like "Hey let's do something cool and make some graphics interact with a photo" If you've ever seen people overdo that whole glowing lines of light with the pen tool on photos where it goes around their bodies and up and behind their bodies and shit, then you know what I mean).
It shouldn't be a prerequisite to explain your work, since the work should speak for itself. I just said I couldn't hear it talk, I didn't get it, I didn't see the message, idea, concept, meaning, whatever. I couldn't feel anything from it, it just looked random, and so far all I've gotten from it is that you've made a very literal cover, no symbolism, no deeper meaning, no nothing. There is a tree because forest, there is fires because campfire, there is water drops because of rain sounds. The fire is red, orange and yellow because fire has that colour, the water drops are blue because water has that colour. You know, it doesn't seem to be anything to it beyond what it obviously is.
You simply seem to try and portrait a campfire without actually illustrating a campfire but instead take the elements of a campfire and put it on the cover.
Notice that only one of those have the graphics in plain colour, also notices that they're all purely geometric shapes (of course that doesn't mean that is the only thing that works), squares, rectangles, circles and triangles.
Another thing is that they hardly take any of the main focus and they mostly blend in with the rest of the image, rather than popping out as it's own becoming an important aspect of the cover. They enhance the cover rather than making the cover.
Decided to make myself a basic wallpaper while practicing Inkscape.
Made from scratch (Vector).
Tempted to do a full body iron man and get it printed lifesize just cause it would look awesome.
quick study