1. Post #5121
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    Maloof?'s Avatar
    December 2006
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    Your palette is muddy! Try different tones.. I can't give you good advice though because I have huge colour issues myself, no matter what colours I use they always come off really unrealistic. I guess it's a combo of not being able to render in colour and having a bad eye for picking colours from refs
    Haha I know how you feel xD


    People say 'muddy' but I can't find any definite answer as to what 'muddy' is, nor exactly what is causing the muddiness
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  2. Post #5122
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    Juniez's Avatar
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    perspective is super weird i dunno
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  3. Post #5123
    Walls black like black waters, when they are heavy and seem to belong to other seas
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    January 2011
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    Thanks, anything to suggest about the sketching style? It's the messy result of building up layers, and then changing things halfway through
    Gesture gesture gesture

    If you develop a good eye for roughing out forms suggestively with minimal lines you can apply it to pretty much anything, and if you have even one good gestural line to describe a body part it's SO much easier to fill in the proper shape on top of that.

    I don't think I can explain the process that well because it's pretty intuitive, so I did an example of what I mean:



    ref - http://attachments.conceptart.org/fo...1&d=1220429247

    EDIT- niggaupload is down apparently, imgur is blocking us obviously and imageshack is now register-only, so reup on postimage.org which I have never heard of:

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  4. Post #5124
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    Maya2008's Avatar
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    I always ink with photoshop and save the pen tool traces as vectors.
    Like this one:

    I use cursor though, not tablet.
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  5. Post #5125
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    gugugugu
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  6. Post #5126
    Spaghetti ruiner
    daijitsu's Avatar
    February 2006
    20,236 Posts
    I always ink with photoshop and save the pen tool traces as vectors.
    Like this one:



    I use cursor though, not tablet.
    If I had the time and patience, I'd love to do vectored lines. I'll often use a vector to create a solid piece like the face outline, just sharpening that out enhances so much even when the picture is sketchy as a whole.
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  7. Post #5127
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    May 2011
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    a stress-reliever drawing!

    i took a lot of inspiration from this person i saw on youtube who painted with watercolors like a god


    this is literally my second time to draw realistically jesus christ
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  8. Post #5128
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    September 2005
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    Gesture gesture gesture

    If you develop a good eye for roughing out forms suggestively with minimal lines you can apply it to pretty much anything, and if you have even one good gestural line to describe a body part it's SO much easier to fill in the proper shape on top of that.

    I don't think I can explain the process that well because it's pretty intuitive, so I did an example of what I mean:



    ref - http://attachments.conceptart.org/fo...1&d=1220429247
    thanks. I think I need to just visualise it better in my head to apply this, because right now I won't be sure what I want in the drawing, so I just make a ton of lines, which as you said before ends up being quite unproductive
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  9. Post #5129

    September 2011
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    http://imageshack.us/f/62/soldiersketchimproving5.png/ I'm painting solder from TF2... *Before I start cleaning up and working on background, should I focus my concerns on anything on this? *And the sketch lines are there because its part of my art style to keep them; but should I try making them a different color or reduce the amount of sketch lines? *Thank You in Advance*

    It's still not complete, I'm still trying to get it to look better...

    :C
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  10. Post #5130
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    too much highlight on the grenades.
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  11. Post #5131
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    July 2006
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    Haha I know how you feel xD


    People say 'muddy' but I can't find any definite answer as to what 'muddy' is, nor exactly what is causing the muddiness
    Could it be possible that your monitor's colour calibration isn't right? If it is a consistant issue and you can't see what is wrong with it then that might explain it maybe.
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  12. Post #5132
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  13. Post #5133
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    Haha I know how you feel xD


    People say 'muddy' but I can't find any definite answer as to what 'muddy' is, nor exactly what is causing the muddiness
    You seem to use a lot of grey-ish or brown-ish colours, not very much vibrancey in the tones. Try using really wacky bright colours for once and see how they can work well. (then look for a middleground)
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  14. Post #5134
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    "muddy" isn't about the colours in your picture. it's used when they mean the brushstrokes in your picture are blurry and transparent. it gives this inconsistent, overlapping look. this comes from using a low brush opacity

    it gives this kind of effect (on the left):



    so the work gets kinda blurry like this (sorry to this person for using the work as an example)





    edit: oh wait in this instance i think the person was actually talking about browns and a lack of colour. usually though i think we use it to talk about brushstrokes
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  15. Post #5135
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    November 2008
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    WIP self portrait in charcoal. My chin's a bit fucked atm.
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  16. Post #5136
    I GOT A TITLE TOO!!!
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    July 2010
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    Pew pew!



    One of the few serious self-portraits that came out good!
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  17. Post #5137
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    September 2010
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    Got fed up with this thing...
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  18. Post #5138
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    June 2010
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    Painted this last night. About half way through I got the news that my dog had died
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  19. Post #5139
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    June 2007
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    That's horrible dude. But if it's any consolation I'm loving the painting; the sky's so funky.
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  20. Post #5140
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    sorry about your dog, I absolutely love the painting
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  21. Post #5141
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    May 2010
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    cleaned up a bit more. now gonna do the background.
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  22. Post #5142
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    August 2010
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    I kinda liked the aesthetic the clusterfuck dlc for bf3 had going, but after a terrible attempt at drawing people into it I figured it looked better on its own



    ...meh.
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  23. Post #5143
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    March 2011
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    If I had a black and white image, is there a way to tell how many pixels are black and how many are white?
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  24. Post #5144
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    cleaned up a bit more. now gonna do the background.
    His armpit is a jungle O..O
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  25. Post #5145
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    May 2008
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    If I had a black and white image, is there a way to tell how many pixels are black and how many are white?
    I'm pretty sure someone has done a program for that, but I'm more interested in why would you want to know this?
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  26. Post #5146
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    August 2006
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    Thanks, anything to suggest about the sketching style? It's the messy result of building up layers, and then changing things halfway through

    Edited:



    you're not actually going to get that are you?
    half sleeve, full sleeve later on

    family business yo
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  27. Post #5147
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    Could it be possible that your monitor's colour calibration isn't right? If it is a consistant issue and you can't see what is wrong with it then that might explain it maybe.
    It's not a calibration issue, I don't think. It's not a technical issue that's preventing me from seeing the issue; it's more that I don't know enough about colour and everything to pick up on the problems when they appear

    I'm using a cheapish LCD from about 4 years ago. It's been through hell; cat pissed on the screen, piss leaked down into the buttons at the front, so I washed the entire thing out with spring water (tried to get the purest, most distilled stuff I could) and let it dry out in some rice for a few months. A few smudges here and there but it's not a massive issue. I've got a secondary CRT, but that's a bit too dark

    Calibration is a biatch, but I've been working on it. I had a good setup a while back but the system I was using needed to be turned on every time I restarted, so I usually forgot until I was half way through a painting.


    I recalibrated today using a more permanent solution. Previously I had matched colours to a macbeth colour chart using the inbuilt RGB settings and QuickGamma but today I tried something different. I set the screen to SRGB and then went into the ATI Catalyst settings and using the QuickGamma calibration images I set the brightness to the correct level. I then used gamma correction in Catalyst to alter the RGB gamma to match the macbeth colour chart.

    I mean, it's not perfect (nor is it likely an 'approved' way of doing it) but I have neither a very high quality monitor nor the patience right now to spend hours fine tuning. Maybe later down the road.
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  28. Post #5148
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    September 2005
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    Late night scribbling.


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  29. Post #5149
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    May 2008
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    Late night scribbling.


    That has got to be perhaps the strangest dildo I have ever seen
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  30. Post #5150
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    CCCCCCC please
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  31. Post #5151
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    CCCCCCC please
    Very nice
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  32. Post #5152
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    November 2008
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    Slow 'n steady
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  33. Post #5153
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    CCCCCCC please
    Definitely nailed the atmosphere there.
    Although I don't think the shadows on the pole should be so dark since there's no direct sunlight.
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  34. Post #5154
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    http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/179/8/b/island_1_by_zacharyhogan-d55675i.jpg

    CCCCCCC please
    i really like this a lot more than some of your other pieces. i think this is mainly because there's some kind of struggle that the viewer can be involved in. usually you've got quite interesting landscapes and buildings n stuff but having a person in there makes it all so much more interesting, even for the very simple reason that he provides a sense of scale too

    remember that you're a digital artist. it's very good practice for you, and i like that you concentrate on this, that you mainly just paint with the brushes and then call it a day. remember though that you can use all the wizardry of photoshop to your advantage in the final stages of the piece. i find messing with the colour balance a little (often to bring more colour into the shadows and maybe the highlights) is a really handy finishing touch, as is a bit of smart sharpen and maybe some increased saturation on the main area you want to draw your viewer's eyes to

    maybe something like this



    i went too far with the blue and ruined the gloomy atmosphere a bit but hopefully you can see what i mean
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  35. Post #5155
    $$ ask me about drawing MLP porn requests $$
    Detlef's Avatar
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    maloofs version looked better
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  36. Post #5156
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    yeh in retrospect this was an awful pic to mess with like that because of the fog n what not

    i think it would help a lot of maloof's other work though where the final product is often kinda blurry and desaturated and a little under-contrasted
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  37. Post #5157
    I like to get my fingers wet!
    matreox's Avatar
    September 2007
    539 Posts

    An ass, because I was asked to draw one randomly in chat.
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  38. Post #5158
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    "2 blurry oranges in a warped mirror"
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  39. Post #5159
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    somethin I wanna stencil, not fully decided yet tho so any suggestions are cool too
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  40. Post #5160
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    February 2006
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    somethin I wanna stencil, not fully decided yet tho so any suggestions are cool too
    learn about how not to have islands if you're gonna make a stencil.
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