1. Post #681
    I fucking hate Lori.
    Moofy's Avatar
    April 2010
    2,498 Posts
    Don't use virtualbox
    http://communities.vmware.com/commun...kstationtp2012
    Vmware > Oracle by a landslide
    I don't follow you?

    Also, i am shifting to Arch on my main PC.
    Since i actually only play Minecraft and Humble Bundle games well, then it works!
    So yea, fuck Windows.
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  2. Post #682
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    April 2012
    706 Posts
    I've managed to get Arch running with GNOME 3 and im very happy with it but before I choose GNOME as my desktop environment im wondering what the others are like. LXDE, KDE, Xfce.

    What do you guys like to use as your Desktop Enviroment?
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  3. Post #683
    Dennab
    August 2011
    2,159 Posts
    The same one as you do.

    GNOME 3 is a win when it is configured properly.
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  4. Post #684
    Get your own DarkRP Server!
    FPtje's Avatar
    January 2006
    5,725 Posts
    Questions, questions & even more questions.


    Okay, so i hear around the threads in Linux section stuff about Virtualbox?
    So far my guess for this is it's like a windows where you can "install" a system but not really install it?


    So it's like a.. Test installation?
    If not, is there a program for that?


    --


    And also, when looking at the Arch installation i don't understand the part with partitions, i see people make "boot" partition and "system".


    Is all of that required, or is it just common sense for the Arch install?
    I don't understand it. Nope. 0%.
    Should you really install Arch if you don't know what OS virtualisation is? I mean, if you don't know that, then you're likely not to know other important things related to operating systems, causing huge problems in understanding Arch Linux and solving the problems it can have.
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  5. Post #685
    T3hGamerDK's Avatar
    January 2011
    2,551 Posts
    Should you really install Arch if you don't know what OS virtualisation is?
    Well, you gotta learn it one way or another. Installing Arch isn't the worst way to do so at all.
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  6. Post #686
    I fucking hate Lori.
    Moofy's Avatar
    April 2010
    2,498 Posts
    Well, you gotta learn it one way or another. Installing Arch isn't the worst way to do so at all.
    I actually tried it, some stuff i got. Some not.

    Edited:

    Off topic
    Wow, i just came out from OIFY.
    There is some real shit going on in there. My eyes are burning.
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  7. Post #687
    Stonecycle's Avatar
    September 2011
    5,390 Posts
    The mouse is rather choppy in movement on Ubuntu 12.04. Using the trackpad on this laptop is a flawless reaction (and possible over-reacts to typing), yet using a wireless USB Logitech M305 mouse is poking along. Well, not really slow, but the movement isn't fluid. Research isn't yielding any results. What is the problem and how do I fix it.
    I could really use some help. Getting sick of that moving cursor every time I try to type. Do I update graphics drivers? Already done that, to no avail.
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  8. Post #688
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    March 2005
    2,020 Posts
    I've updated my corner tiling xfwm4 patch for 4.10 if anyone's interested: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40030
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  9. Post #689
    Tucan Sam's Avatar
    May 2007
    858 Posts
    I don't follow you?

    Also, i am shifting to Arch on my main PC.
    Since i actually only play Minecraft and Humble Bundle games well, then it works!
    So yea, fuck Windows.
    Try before you reformat, regardless how you feel about windows it will be alot easier going about arch if you have some experience with it first.
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  10. Post #690
    I'd be lost in this world without my Hatsune Miku ^__^
    Takkun10's Avatar
    July 2007
    8,189 Posts
    I don't see why everyone is so all over arch all the time, I understand how you basically build a super customized distro but in reality I never really learned all that much from it the 2 months I used it. I was always a much bigger fan of debian releases, I felt I learned more having to strip away all the shit I didn't want and change things around and tweak it to what I needed. Just my 2 cents though, arch is still a great distro if you want bleeding edge.
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  11. Post #691
    Played it for the plot
    Dennab
    October 2008
    14,789 Posts
    arch sucks

    Edited:

    objectively
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  12. Post #692
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    May 2008
    1,986 Posts
    So I got 2 kernel panics. The first one was because I was dumb, the second one was because I forgot that I'm using IDE, not SATA. Hopefully this next one will get me in. Also, kernel seeds makes the menuconfig process a hell of a lot more easier if you don't know what's going on.
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  13. Post #693
    Glorious GNU/Linux Master Race
    kaukassus's Avatar
    May 2010
    5,716 Posts
    Try before you reformat, regardless how you feel about windows it will be alot easier going about arch if you have some experience with it first.
    I did that, before installing gentoo on my main build

    but I still managed to fuck shit up.

    (some kernel compile error)
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  14. Post #694
    I wasted a dollar on a stupid title.
    nikomo's Avatar
    September 2007
    17,104 Posts
    A page late, but

    VirtualBox is like an emulated version of an OS.
    Virtualized, not emulated.
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  15. Post #695
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    May 2008
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    Should you really install Arch if you don't know what OS virtualisation is? I mean, if you don't know that, then you're likely not to know other important things related to operating systems, causing huge problems in understanding Arch Linux and solving the problems it can have.
    Arch isn't that hard.
    It's basically an Ubuntu-like installer in ~~text mode~~
    Where text mode is a Blue screen with big block buttons and you navigate around with the arrow keys and enter.

    The hardest part is knowing you have to run pacman -S gnome (or whatever DE you want) when you first boot up, and sticking X in rc.conf DAEMONS.

    Edited:

    Is there a terminal program that lists the biggest files on your HDD?
    du

    Edited:

    Just do something like this:
    Code:
    du --all / | sort -n
    It includes sizes of directories though, and I don't know how to ignore those and only show files.
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  16. Post #696
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    April 2012
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    Ive being struggling to get LightDM installed with Pacman. Pacman cant find it.
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  17. Post #697
    Glorious GNU/Linux Master Race
    kaukassus's Avatar
    May 2010
    5,716 Posts
    Ive being struggling to get LightDM installed with Pacman. Pacman cant find it.

    looks like its in the AUR
    https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40708
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  18. Post #698
    Get your own DarkRP Server!
    FPtje's Avatar
    January 2006
    5,725 Posts
    Arch isn't that hard.
    It's basically an Ubuntu-like installer in ~~text mode~~
    Where text mode is a Blue screen with big block buttons and you navigate around with the arrow keys and enter.

    The hardest part is knowing you have to run pacman -S gnome (or whatever DE you want) when you first boot up, and sticking X in rc.conf DAEMONS.
    I know what Arch is and how it is installed, but I doubt he will know what he's doing if he doesn't even understand the concept behind partitions.

    No matter how easy a beginner's guide is, if you lack the very basic understanding of operating systems, you'll have a hard time installing it. Not to mention the problems that can arise with Arch that actually require some computer problem solving skills. Think of drivers not working correctly, pacman being locked inappropriately, package dependency troubles and whatnot.
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  19. Post #699
    Tucan Sam's Avatar
    May 2007
    858 Posts
    I don't see why everyone is so all over arch all the time, I understand how you basically build a super customized distro but in reality I never really learned all that much from it the 2 months I used it. I was always a much bigger fan of debian releases, I felt I learned more having to strip away all the shit I didn't want and change things around and tweak it to what I needed. Just my 2 cents though, arch is still a great distro if you want bleeding edge.
    Because obviously customizing a UI >>>> getting services running
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  20. Post #700
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    June 2009
    425 Posts
    I installed archlinux and it seems to have fucked up my windows bootmgr even though I installed everything onto sdc including grub problem is I can't copy all of the files off my windows dynamic disk now which is in stripe mode pretty much everything on it is worthless but I have 300gb worth of steam games which I can't redownload due to my shit internet plan I tried this in console as well as changing the chunk size around and the only way to get it to mount was with this

    sdb2 and sda2 are they only part of the 2 disks which are dynamic disks

    these are my partitions

    [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX raid]$ cat /proc/partitions
    major minor #blocks name

    8 16 488385527 sdb
    8 17 78782468 sdb1
    8 18 409598976 sdb2
    8 0 488385527 sda
    8 1 102400 sda1
    8 2 78679040 sda2
    8 3 409598976 sda3
    8 48 976761527 sdd
    8 49 976760000 sdd1
    8 32 976762584 sdc
    8 33 96358 sdc1
    8 34 39062047 sdc2
    8 35 19535040 sdc3
    8 36 1 sdc4
    8 37 908202613 sdc5
    8 38 9866430 sdc6
    9 0 488278016 md0
    and this is what I did in console

    [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX ~]$ sudo mdadm --build /dev/md0 -c 64 -l 0 -n 2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sda2
    mdadm: array /dev/md0 built and started.
    [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX ~]$ sudo mount /dev/md0 /media/raid
    [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX ~]$ cd /media/raid
    [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX raid]$ ls
    ls: cannot access Games: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access @The Lord of the Rings Online: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Age of Empires II + The Conquerors Expansion: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access AOEIII: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access BoomHS.avi: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access compressed.avi: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Counter-Strike Source: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access CRT: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access deaglehs.avi: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access deaglehs.mp3: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access deaglehs000001.avi: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Documents: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access dumpshithere: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access gymkhana.avi: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access IMAG0035.png: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Lan Music: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Lan-Games: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access League of Legends: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Legend of Grimrock: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access maps: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Minecraft: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access MinecraftCracked: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Need For Speed World: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Photo Editing: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access PJR-TOSH: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Raw Movies: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access RevEmu: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Scrim: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Shoot Many Robots: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Srcdemo2: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access SRCDS: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Starcraft 2: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Syndicate: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access System Volume Information: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access Test: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access The Lord of the Rings Online: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access video.pass: Input/output error
    ls: cannot access WindowsImageBackup: Input/output error
    $RECYCLE.BIN Photo Editing
    @The Lord of the Rings Online Raw Movies
    AOEIII RevEmu
    Age of Empires II + The Conquerors Expansion SRCDS
    BoomHS.avi Scrim
    CRT Shoot Many Robots
    Counter-Strike Source Srcdemo2
    Documents Starcraft 2
    Dungeon Defenders Steam
    Games Syndicate
    Halo2 System Volume Information
    IMAG0035.png Test
    Just Cause 2 The Lord of the Rings Online
    Lan Music WindowsImageBackup
    Lan-Games compressed.avi
    League of Legends deaglehs.avi
    Legend of Grimrock deaglehs.mp3
    Minecraft deaglehs000001.avi
    MinecraftCracked dumpshithere
    Movies gymkhana.avi
    Need For Speed World maps
    PJR-TOSH ns_install_v32.exe
    Phoenix video.pass
    [sartek@SARTEK-LINUX raid]$
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  21. Post #701
    Richy19's Avatar
    May 2010
    5,411 Posts
    Im trying to build the latest codeblocks source but following the tutorial I get this:
    Code:
    ./bootstrap 
    libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'.
    libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh'
    libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.in and
    libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros in-tree.
    libtoolize: Consider adding `-I m4' to ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in Makefile.am.
    configure.in:79: warning: macro `AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG' not found in library
    configure.in:80: warning: macro `AM_PATH_WXCONFIG' not found in library
    configure.in:79: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG
          If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
          See the Autoconf documentation.
    configure.in:80: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_WXCONFIG
    anyone know how to fix it?
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  22. Post #702
    T3hGamerDK's Avatar
    January 2011
    2,551 Posts
    Im trying to build the latest codeblocks source but following the tutorial I get this:
    Code:
    ./bootstrap 
    libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'.
    libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh'
    libtoolize: Consider adding `AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4])' to configure.in and
    libtoolize: rerunning libtoolize, to keep the correct libtool macros in-tree.
    libtoolize: Consider adding `-I m4' to ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS in Makefile.am.
    configure.in:79: warning: macro `AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG' not found in library
    configure.in:80: warning: macro `AM_PATH_WXCONFIG' not found in library
    configure.in:79: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG
          If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
          See the Autoconf documentation.
    configure.in:80: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_WXCONFIG
    anyone know how to fix it?
    Have you installed libtool and friends?
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  23. Post #703
    Richy19's Avatar
    May 2010
    5,411 Posts
    Have you installed libtool and friends?
    yep
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  24. Post #704
    T3hGamerDK's Avatar
    January 2011
    2,551 Posts
    including automake and the autotools suite? Because I remember having the exact same problem before, I just don't remember how I fixed it.
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  25. Post #705
    Richy19's Avatar
    May 2010
    5,411 Posts
    including automake and the autotools suite? Because I remember having the exact same problem before, I just don't remember how I fixed it.
    Yea there all installed

    Edited:

    I was missing wx-common which provids the needed wxwin.m4 -___-
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  26. Post #706
    I fucking hate Lori.
    Moofy's Avatar
    April 2010
    2,498 Posts
    Don't know if i should sit down right now and get on with installing Arch.
    I mean:

    Should you really install Arch if you don't know what OS virtualisation is? I mean, if you don't know that, then you're likely not to know other important things related to operating systems, causing huge problems in understanding Arch Linux and solving the problems it can have.
    This.
    Should i just go for a more self-installing distro anyways?
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  27. Post #707
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    Van-man's Avatar
    August 2009
    15,159 Posts
    Should i just go for a more self-installing distro anyways?
    Gotta learn how to walk before you can run.
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  28. Post #708
    I fucking hate Lori.
    Moofy's Avatar
    April 2010
    2,498 Posts
    Gotta learn how to walk before you can run.
    So by saying that.. Simple distro?
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  29. Post #709
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    August 2009
    15,159 Posts
    So by saying that.. Simple distro?
    Or something that's extremely well-documented down to the smallest detail, and has every possible scenario.

    But that's just me.
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  30. Post #710
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    May 2010
    5,716 Posts
    So by saying that.. Simple distro?
    I'd recommend you start with a distro, wich sets up everything for you(ex. ubuntu/fedora/openSUSE), and then if you feel confident, you can read up on the arch installation guide, and then install arch.

    Arch Linux isn't that hard, it just needs some time to get used to it. You just need to manually configure and install things (ex. Xorg)
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  31. Post #711
    T3hGamerDK's Avatar
    January 2011
    2,551 Posts
    I'd recommend you start with a distro, wich sets up everything for you(ex. ubuntu/fedora/openSUSE), and then if you feel confident, you can read up on the arch installation guide, and then install arch.

    Arch Linux isn't that hard, it just needs some time to get used to it. You just need to manually configure and install things (ex. Xorg)
    Xorg? I've never had any need for configuring that, except maybe for the keyboard layout, but there's applications you can install that allow you to change that during runtime.
    It works pretty well out-of-the box I'd say.
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  32. Post #712
    I fucking hate Lori.
    Moofy's Avatar
    April 2010
    2,498 Posts
    I'd recommend you start with a distro, wich sets up everything for you(ex. ubuntu/fedora/openSUSE), and then if you feel confident, you can read up on the arch installation guide, and then install arch.

    Arch Linux isn't that hard, it just needs some time to get used to it. You just need to manually configure and install things (ex. Xorg)
    What distro would you recommend then? For the more simpler one.
    And i wan't to install Arch, just can't get it up in VirtualBox so i can "practice" it.
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  33. Post #713
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    December 2006
    2,665 Posts
    I'm just going to go against the current here and say something that might offend everyone here.

    Are you ready?

    Arch isn't necessarily "straight forward".

    There, I said it. It is probably the most well documented distro I have ever used, but due to it's lack of drivers (this is actually a good thing, generally), you might have some problems on some hardware. For instance, I had trouble with Arch being unable to find the boot rom itself and I had to symbolically link the correct one to the one it had anticipated during boot.

    It's awesome though.
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  34. Post #714
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    July 2009
    1,267 Posts
    I think that the best thing for you would be to install arch or whichever distro in a virtual machine. You can use VirtualBox or VMware. I am experienced with Virtualbox, I might be able to help you if you need help.

    I do believe that we have (or used to) a thread describing how to install ubuntu or whatever distro in VirtualBox. Following the first steps should allow you to get your installation going (Setup virtual drives and mounting the ISO). After that you should be able to follow the Beginner's guide on arch's wiki.

    The great thing about VMs is that you can play around them without the fear or massively fucking up something. That way, you can learn through experience without the risk of losing all your data.

    You should also do some reading. The arch wiki and the gentoo handbook (or whatever it's called) are great resources. They will explain how certain things, like partitions should be done. If you want to know how something like partitions actually work, you should read up on wikipedia or some other sites (Wikipedia tends to be verbose and too in detail for a lot of people).
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  35. Post #715
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    May 2008
    10,900 Posts
    Xorg? I've never had any need for configuring that, except maybe for the keyboard layout, but there's applications you can install that allow you to change that during runtime.
    It works pretty well out-of-the box I'd say.
    Yeah, modern Xorg can auto detect most things, especially video modes and settings.
    And the thing about keyboard layouts only really applies if you don't use the US QWERTY layout.
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  36. Post #716
    Tucan Sam's Avatar
    May 2007
    858 Posts
    What distro would you recommend then? For the more simpler one.
    And i wan't to install Arch, just can't get it up in VirtualBox so i can "practice" it.
    Workstation > Oracles crap

    Use workstation it is loads more stable, the link I posted has a download and key for use till November 15th, use it.


    Centos is a good distro that lets dig down into it but still has enough things built in so it is hard to "get stuck"
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  37. Post #717
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    neos300's Avatar
    July 2008
    3,489 Posts
    Time to install arch in a VM.

    Edited:


    Maybe I just won't install a graphical environmental to force myself to use the terminal.
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  38. Post #718
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    May 2008
    1,986 Posts
    I got Gentoo working, but I'm having problems getting slim to start up Xfce. Xfce works on it's own if I use 'startx', so it's a problem with connecting the two. What happens when I log in is it gives me a black screen with that large 'X' cursor. Here's my slim.conf (comments omitted to make it shorter)
    Code:
    default_path        /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
    default_xserver     /usr/bin/X
    xserver_arguments   -nolisten tcp -br -deferglyphs 16
    
    halt_cmd            /sbin/shutdown -h now
    reboot_cmd          /sbin/shutdown -r now
    console_cmd         /usr/bin/xterm -C -fg white -bg black +sb -T "Console login" -e /bin/sh -c "/bin/cat /etc/issue; exec /bin/login"
    
    xauth_path         /usr/bin/xauth 
    authfile           /var/run/slim.auth
    numlock             on
    
    login_cmd           exec /bin/bash -login /usr/share/slim/Xsession %session
    sessionstart_cmd	/usr/bin/sessreg -a -l :0.0 %user
    sessionstop_cmd     /usr/bin/sessreg -d -l :0.0 %user
    
    daemon	yes
    sessiondir           /etc/X11/Sessions
    screenshot_cmd      import -window root /slim.png
    
    welcome_msg         Welcome to %host
    shutdown_msg       The system is halting...
    reboot_msg         The system is rebooting...
    
    current_theme       gentoo_10_dark
    
    lockfile            /var/run/slim.pid
    logfile             /var/log/slim.log
    /etc/env.d/90xsession
    Code:
    XSESSION="startxfce4"
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  39. Post #719
    Tucan Sam's Avatar
    May 2007
    858 Posts
    Time to install arch in a VM.

    Edited:


    Maybe I just won't install a graphical environmental to force myself to use the terminal.
    Don't use view
    http://communities.vmware.com/commun...kstationtp2012
    Workstation Beta is free
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  40. Post #720
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    kaukassus's Avatar
    May 2010
    5,716 Posts
    Honestly, if people want to use their Virt-tool of their choice, then why bother telling them to change?

    VMware-player and Virtualbox aren't that bad compared to workstation.

    if they get the job done, then why change?
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