[Relaxation]

Didn't work.

[Lyoko774]

Relaxation posted:

Didn't work.

Uh
Is there any error?

[Relaxation]

Let me retry, should have posted it.

[FlamingSpaz]

So I updated my Arch install after a few months, 700mb. After a restart Slim isn't working, and on top of that due to a bug in my laptop after the nVidia drivers have been loaded I can't drop into any terminal sessions...

[supervoltage]

Lyoko774 posted:

I think I said this already..
You're using enlightenment which is NOT E17, you're using Enlightenment 16. Install e-svn and e-modules-extra-svn from pacman, that'll give you e17.

I successfully installed those two packages, restarted Enlightenment, but lo and behold, it still isn't E17.

Pardon me, I used exec e16 instead of exec enlightenment_start in .xinitrc. Thank you anyway!

[Lyoko774]

supervoltage posted:

I successfully installed those two packages, restarted Enlightenment, but lo and behold, it still isn't E17.

Pardon me, I used exec e16 instead of exec enlightenment_start in .xinitrc. Thank you anyway!

Also, if you want a less dreadful e17 theme go take a look at the SVN repo..the THEMES directory has a couple nice ones, especially detourious
(I hope you know how to use SVN)
http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk

[Larikang]

FlamingSpaz posted:

So I updated my Arch install after a few months, 700mb. After a restart Slim isn't working, and on top of that due to a bug in my laptop after the nVidia drivers have been loaded I can't drop into any terminal sessions...

Did you read all of the news on archlinux.org to see if there were any updates that require manual steps since the last time you did a full upgrade?

[PvtCupcakes]

nikomo posted:

Last time I checked, nobody here is in charge of IT for a large enterprise, which means we really don't care.

I run CentOS on my personal VPS because I don't want to dick around with updates that break things on something like Arch.

I don't want to update Apache one day then find out my website isn't working any more. (as an example)

[ZenX2]

After a Wizard of Oz moment a few days ago and waking my computer up to see it somehow have crashed in windows and rebooted into Linux, I'm starting understand how to use it for everyday things.

[Moofy]

Can someone tell mé what LTS stands for?
Because i want to upgrade my Ubuntu. But will it break anything if i go to 12.04 LTS?

[Wolfyhound]

Moofy posted:

Can someone tell mé what LTS stands for?
Because i want to upgrade my Ubuntu. But will it break anything if i go to 12.04 LTS?

Long Term Support, it might not break anything but you never know. Had to fix some stuff when I upgraded my server to 12.04

[Moofy]

Wolfyhound posted:

Long Term Support, it might not break anything but you never know. Had to fix some stuff when I upgraded my server to 12.04

But is 12.04 LTS good?

[Wolfyhound]

Moofy posted:

But is 12.04 LTS good?

I'm using the server edition, so isn't much of a difference however it is supported til 2017 with security updates etc

[Moofy]

Wolfyhound posted:

I'm using the server edition, so isn't much of a difference however it is supported til 2017 with security updates etc

What's the diffrence between server and desktop?

[Wolfyhound]

Moofy posted:

What's the diffrence between server and desktop?

The main difference is that by default, the server edition doesn't have a GUI installed so instead need to use SSH

[Moofy]

Wolfyhound posted:

The main difference is that by default, the server edition doesn't have a GUI installed so instead need to use SSH

Da' what now?

God i must be a pain in the butt here.
Please explain.

[Wolfyhound]

Moofy posted:

Da' what now?

God i must be a pain in the butt here.
Please explain.

It doesn't have a graphical interface (the thing you're looking at right now) so instead need to use this

[Moofy]

Wolfyhound posted:

It doesn't have a graphical interface (the thing you're looking at right now) so instead need to use this

Oh hell no.
I like my GUI.

Going for the desktop version instead.

Edited:

Or is it like Arch so you can set up manually a GUI?

[Wolfyhound]

Moofy posted:

Oh hell no.
I like my GUI.

Going for the desktop version instead.

If you go to the update manager, it will tell you there's an dist upgrade. It will then download all the packages (can be over 1000). Once its done that, it'll install them and you'll need to restart your computer

[Moofy]

Wolfyhound posted:

If you go to the update manager, it will tell you there's an dist upgrade. It will then download all the packages (can be over 1000). Once its done that, it'll install them and you'll need to restart your computer

And that is very bad?

[Wolfyhound]

Moofy posted:

And that is very bad?

It's pretty standard since you'll switching from one version to another. You don't have to upgrade yet...

[Moofy]

Wolfyhound posted:

It's pretty standard since you'll switching from one version to another. You don't have to upgrade yet...

Since i am running Xubuntu and wan't to go back to Unity (because i am used to it) i kinda need to "upgrade".

Edited:

Oooop, UNetBootIn is done. Cya, later.

[Wolfyhound]

Moofy posted:

Since i am running Xubuntu and wan't to go back to Unity (because i am used to it) i kinda need to "upgrade".

Edited:

Oooop, UNetBootIn is done. Cya, later.

Good luck :)

[FlamingSpaz]

Wolfyhound posted:

It doesn't have a graphical interface (the thing you're looking at right now) so instead need to use this

Are those stats on Ubuntu only or could I somehow get them on CentOS?

[Wolfyhound]

FlamingSpaz posted:

Are those stats on Ubuntu only or could I somehow get them on CentOS?

It came with ubuntu server to advertise 'landscape', however it should be possible to edit the motd to show the stats

#!/bin/sh
cores=$(grep -c ^processor /proc/cpuinfo 2>/dev/null)
[ "$cores" -eq "0" ] && cores=1
threshold="${cores:-1}.0"
if [ $(echo "`cut -f1 -d ' ' /proc/loadavg` < $threshold" | bc) -eq 1 ]; then
    echo
    echo -n "  System information as of "
    /bin/date
    echo
    /usr/bin/landscape-sysinfo
else
    echo
    echo " System information disabled due to load higher than $threshold"
fi

That's what I found digging around my motd

[Moofy]

Moofy posted:

Since i am running Xubuntu and wan't to go back to Unity (because i am used to it) i kinda need to "upgrade".

Edited:

Oooop, UNetBootIn is done. Cya, later.

I'm back, looking as expected.

Edited:

Wolfyhound posted:

Good luck :)

Anything you recommend i do?

Also, i installed compiz and enabled wobbly windows.
When i move windows, the "title" of the window and the showing window itself get's "seperated" so there comes this white line when moving it around?

[Tucan Sam]

FlamingSpaz posted:

Are those stats on Ubuntu only or could I somehow get them on CentOS?

You might want to look up MOTD 101
http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl5_motd.htm

[Moofy]

Looking at Fedora for my main PC.
Look's very good. But ugly GNOME 3 in the way

[supervoltage]

Silly me, installed mpg123 and made it play a song.. Needless to say, I had to listen to the whole Jazz song

What would be the tiniest audio player out there for Arch?

[hpqoeu]

supervoltage posted:

Silly me, installed mpg123 and made it play a song.. Needless to say, I had to listen to the whole Jazz song

What would be the tiniest audio player out there for Arch?

mpd + ncmpcpp or cmus, and if you want something that isn't terminal based I guess deadbeef is pretty good.

[supervoltage]

hpqoeu posted:

mpd + ncmpcpp or cmus, and if you want something that isn't terminal based I guess deadbeef is pretty good.

Deadbeef is indeed very sexy, thank you very much!

[kaukassus]

Moofy posted:

Looking at Fedora for my main PC.
Look's very good. But ugly GNOME 3 in the way

you know you can uninstall gnome and install any other Desktop enviroment with only 2 simple commands.

[Moofy]

kaukassus posted:

you know you can uninstall gnome and install any other Desktop enviroment with only 2 simple commands.

Yea i know, but i dont know if I would like Fedora.

[hpqoeu]

Moofy posted:

Yea i know, but i dont know if I would like Fedora.

well, it would be pretty much the same as any other distro, difference being packages and the package manager

[Moofy]

hpqoeu posted:

well, it would be pretty much the same as any other distro, difference being packages and the package manager

This is what i mean.. People are like: "arch, arch, arch", but isn't arch just a distro with aur and such?

Because i am used to Ubuntu, and i wan't it on my main PC. But i also care about the customization and looks.

[ichiman94]

You can do any costumization on any distro.
Basically distros are just a pack of default programs with linux kernel. You can always install anything if you have most of the basic build tools (gcc make perl etc) or if you have a package manager, you can install kde, xfce on Ubuntu/Fedora, and you can costumize all the inner workings of the kernel.
Most people prefer Arch and Gentoo because they come with a nice package manager/ports-like system and they come with no DE/WM so people can install a clean environment of their own with no bloat.

First decide what you want, a stable distro, a distro with fast access for the latest binary releases, or a completely costum and fast distro with latest apps. Then do a little research what each distro comes with and what it features.

[Tucan Sam]

Moofy posted:

This is what i mean.. People are like: "arch, arch, arch", but isn't arch just a distro with aur and such?

Because i am used to Ubuntu, and i wan't it on my main PC. But i also care about the customization and looks.

Because with most people here it is Customizations > productivity

[Lyoko774]

Tucan Sam posted:

Because with most people here it is Customizations > productivity

..And who cares? Not everyone here works in an enterprise environment and needs a perfectly stable and 100% productive system...

[ButtsexV3]

speed and stability are number one for me, then productivity. Customization is barely on the list at all.

This usually leaves me using a cutting (not bleeding, never bleeding) edge debian build.

[ASmellyOgre]

ButtsexV3 posted:

speed and stability are number one for me, then productivity. Customization is barely on the list at all.

This usually leaves me using a cutting (not bleeding, never bleeding) edge debian build.

I've been wondering how viable a continuous Debian testing environment is.