1. Post #1761
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    Niteshifter's Avatar
    May 2008
    1,982 Posts
    Steam just tells the game to run, so you don't really need to check if the version is steam either; just if the version is the most updated. The only real thing that Steam does to the game is add the shift+tab overlay.

    A good example of this is Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Winehq shows no Steam version for this game, so the latest version was chosen instead. The rating is also Bronze, however the comments show to add a patch and it works almost flawlessly except for a few shadow glitches as shown in this video. I can also vouch for this method since I was able to play through a bit of it perfectly (the only problem was my computer couldn't handle it, so it was laggy).

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  2. Post #1762
    Psyke89's Avatar
    January 2010
    507 Posts
    Guys....
    http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/

    It's real, it's happening, it's official, whatever.
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  3. Post #1763
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    January 2012
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    Do you guys think Linux Mint will be able to use the Ubuntu Steam Packages? Linux Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu, isn't it?
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  4. Post #1764
    T3hGamerDK's Avatar
    January 2011
    2,551 Posts
    Do you guys think Linux Mint will be able to use the Ubuntu Steam Packages? Linux Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu, isn't it?
    I'm pretty sure it'll work fine. If not, expect to see some simple ports pretty quickly after the release.
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  5. Post #1765
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    January 2012
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    I'm pretty sure it'll work fine. If not, expect to see some simple ports pretty quickly after the release.
    Ok, thanks for the fast response :D
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  6. Post #1766
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    May 2008
    1,982 Posts
    I would think valve would also release a tarball as well as the .deb for other distros to port it to theirs.
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  7. Post #1767
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    July 2007
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    I would think valve would also release a tarball as well as the .deb for other distros to port it to theirs.
    If they won't it's pretty trivial to extract the .deb and transform it into an usable package for, say, Arch.

    In fact that'd mostly involve moving out some excess files in the PKGBUILD.
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  8. Post #1768
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    January 2005
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    Guys, I'm not sure if some other source mentions this but I have confirmation that Wine is NOT involved in any of this VALVe Linux business.

    Some people had concerns that we would just get a shit port of their Windows build with a bunch of Wine patches (since it would still be technically "native") - this won't be the case.
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  9. Post #1769
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    May 2010
    2,301 Posts
    Guys, I'm not sure if some other source mentions this but I have confirmation that Wine is NOT involved in any of this VALVe Linux business.

    Some people had concerns that we would just get a shit port of their Windows build with a bunch of Wine patches (since it would still be technically "native") - this won't be the case.
    Valve aren't the type to do a half assed job so they wouldn't use wine anyway
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  10. Post #1770
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    January 2005
    3,928 Posts
    Valve aren't the type to do a half assed job so they wouldn't use wine anyway
    Oh I trust VALVe, but it's always refreshing to confirm what you expect to be the case :)
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  11. Post #1771
    I fucking hate Lori.
    Moofy's Avatar
    April 2010
    1,665 Posts
    -snip-
    I need to read.
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  12. Post #1772
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    January 2012
    1,012 Posts
    -snip, fixed itself magically-
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  13. Post #1773
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    neos300's Avatar
    July 2008
    3,403 Posts
    Getting my server up and running so I can host all the packages for my linux distro.
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  14. Post #1774
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    May 2008
    10,900 Posts
    Guys, I'm not sure if some other source mentions this but I have confirmation that Wine is NOT involved in any of this VALVe Linux business.

    Some people had concerns that we would just get a shit port of their Windows build with a bunch of Wine patches (since it would still be technically "native") - this won't be the case.
    I don't think they allow TransGaming ports (basically wine) in Mac Steam.

    Edited:

    If they won't it's pretty trivial to extract the .deb and transform it into an usable package for, say, Arch.

    In fact that'd mostly involve moving out some excess files in the PKGBUILD.
    The only pain is if they do what the Spotify Linux client does and use old as shit OpenSSL 0.9.8 when your distro is halfway up to date and has OpenSSL 1.0
    It works, but you have to symlink the libssl10.so to libssl0.9.8.so.
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  15. Post #1775
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    Elecbullet's Avatar
    November 2007
    9,849 Posts
    SO, having given up on getting a decent laptop with Linux or no OS whatsoever, I am eyeing this very closely.

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...19310&CatId=17
    It is also listed on Newegg but deactivated, and that site gives it some swimming reviews.

    I like it because it's got a 1600x900 screen, and it's a Lenovo and they're supposed to have good mechanical-esque keyboards - I tried the Lenovo keyboards at Best Buy and loved them. Furthermore, it's on sale to the point of costing less than the refurbished version.



    I plan to use it for Web browsing and school and shit on the go, using Ubuntu 12.04. I'll probably keep Windows on a separate drive, but won't do much gaming. I might try running LA Noire on them Intel HD 3000 graphics on low, but that's just because I bought it on Steam and it won't run on my Windows 8 gaming PC. Very low priority.

    Y'all think it's a good purchase?
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  16. Post #1776

    April 2012
    310 Posts
    Getting my server up and running so I can host all the packages for my linux distro.
    Could you give some details about your distro?
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  17. Post #1777
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    neos300's Avatar
    July 2008
    3,403 Posts
    Could you give some details about your distro?
    Arch-like, but you have to configure your own kernel (because I don't know how to make a kernel like the other distros that will work on multiple computers)
    Currently it's x86_64 only, but that's just because I haven't gotten around to cross compiling yet.

    Edited:

    The name is Astro Linux

    Edited:

    I'm also planning a lot more choice than arch (eg. busybox instead of coreutils, possibly ulibc rather than glibc) so it might be possible to not call it GNU/Linux (even if you're a stickler)

    Edited:

    It will prompt your on installation for what you want to install.
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  18. Post #1778
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    October 2005
    6,120 Posts
    SO, having given up on getting a decent laptop with Linux or no OS whatsoever, I am eyeing this very closely.

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...19310&CatId=17
    It is also listed on Newegg but deactivated, and that site gives it some swimming reviews.

    I like it because it's got a 1600x900 screen, and it's a Lenovo and they're supposed to have good mechanical-esque keyboards - I tried the Lenovo keyboards at Best Buy and loved them. Furthermore, it's on sale to the point of costing less than the refurbished version.



    I plan to use it for Web browsing and school and shit on the go, using Ubuntu 12.04. I'll probably keep Windows on a separate drive, but won't do much gaming. I might try running LA Noire on them Intel HD 3000 graphics on low, but that's just because I bought it on Steam and it won't run on my Windows 8 gaming PC. Very low priority.

    Y'all think it's a good purchase?
    Why couldn't you get one of these?
    https://www.system76.com/
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  19. Post #1779
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    June 2010
    1,313 Posts
    Arch-like, but you have to configure your own kernel (because I don't know how to make a kernel like the other distros that will work on multiple computers)
    Currently it's x86_64 only, but that's just because I haven't gotten around to cross compiling yet.

    Edited:

    The name is Astro Linux

    Edited:

    I'm also planning a lot more choice than arch (eg. busybox instead of coreutils, possibly ulibc rather than glibc) so it might be possible to not call it GNU/Linux (even if you're a stickler)

    Edited:

    It will prompt your on installation for what you want to install.
    That actually sounds great. I have a spare SD card for my raspberry pi; I don't know if you could cross-compile onto ARM and do some checks in the package manager for platform specific requirements (in fact I'm completely ignorant as to the amount of work that would be required to support the pi) but it sounds like a slim distro for a slim device. Keep us updated

    Edited:

    Also does anyone else use suckless.org's surf browser? If so do you know any way to avoid the mouse completely yet easily find and follow links?
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  20. Post #1780

    May 2011
    90 Posts
    Also does anyone else use suckless.org's surf browser? If so do you know any way to avoid the mouse completely yet easily find and follow links?
    you should check out DWB, has vi-like shortcuts and it's a pretty lightweight browser http://portix.bitbucket.org/dwb/
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  21. Post #1781
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    Elecbullet's Avatar
    November 2007
    9,849 Posts
    Why couldn't you get one of these?
    https://www.system76.com/
    Shaving money off by not paying for a Windows license kind of loses its purpose when the cheapest laptop on that site is $200 more than the laptop I got, which has arguably better features that I need. (keyboard, 1600x900).

    I really would love to contribute to a site like that though.

    Edited:

    I already ordered the Lenovo anyway. Zorlok gave his seal of approval.
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  22. Post #1782
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    Lyoko774's Avatar
    October 2005
    6,120 Posts
    https://e17releasemanager.wordpress.com/
    Well, shit, they're finally pushing for an e17 release and squashing bugs left and right.
    (And some of the bugs are quite amusing, might be worth scrolling through the blog )
    This was a confusing bug: the keyboard search buffer wasn’t showing up for ilist widgets. We have a search buffer for ilist widgets??? Apparently someone added it a few years back and nobody ever noticed. Probably because it was INVISIBLE. Yeah, an invisible search widget: that’s super useful.
    For example..
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  23. Post #1783
    Niven's Avatar
    March 2010
    1,852 Posts
    New OS for Raspberry Pi.
    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1605

    It runs a bit faster now compared to Debian Squeeze.
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  24. Post #1784
    Rayjingstorm's Avatar
    June 2010
    1,313 Posts
    you should check out DWB, has vi-like shortcuts and it's a pretty lightweight browser http://portix.bitbucket.org/dwb/
    That looks perfect, just like surf but with easier navigation (and a few extras)
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  25. Post #1785
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    neos300's Avatar
    July 2008
    3,403 Posts
    That actually sounds great. I have a spare SD card for my raspberry pi; I don't know if you could cross-compile onto ARM and do some checks in the package manager for platform specific requirements (in fact I'm completely ignorant as to the amount of work that would be required to support the pi) but it sounds like a slim distro for a slim device. Keep us updated

    Edited:

    Also does anyone else use suckless.org's surf browser? If so do you know any way to avoid the mouse completely yet easily find and follow links?
    With any luck it should be possible as long as gcc, glibc, some other libraries and make are portable to ARM.
    Then I just have to compile all the packages again.
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  26. Post #1786
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    May 2008
    1,982 Posts
    KMix is being stupid. I have two "cards" on my laptop, the laptop speakers and the HDMI port. For some reason, KMix wants to default to the HDMI port no matter what I tell it. I make alsa's default card set as the speakers, the multimedia settings are set to the speakers, but KMix insists that it uses the HDMI port. I go to switch the master channel inside KMix and it has two options which are exactly the same and it doesn't show any options below either of them.

    Edited:

    I switched to VolumeIcon and it actually respects alsa's/KDE's options instead of trying to make things up.
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  27. Post #1787
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    December 2008
    17,525 Posts
    Question, i'm new to Linux and i bought a VPS with Linux on it, on there i installed Debian and i currently host a SpaceStation 13 server.

    Now the interest seems to be dropping in that and i want to host a other server but that program is Windows only, how good does Windows programs run on Linux (Using Wine)? Or does that depends on the software?
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  28. Post #1788
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    October 2005
    6,120 Posts
    Question, i'm new to Linux and i bought a VPS with Linux on it, on there i installed Debian and i currently host a SpaceStation 13 server.

    Now the interest seems to be dropping in that and i want to host a other server but that program is Windows only, how good does Windows programs run on Linux (Using Wine)? Or does that depends on the software?
    What kind of server is it?
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  29. Post #1789
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    darth-veger's Avatar
    December 2008
    17,525 Posts
    What kind of server is it?
    Dedicated VPS (2 GB RAM) Debian
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  30. Post #1790
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    October 2005
    6,120 Posts
    Dedicated VPS (2 GB RAM) Debian
    ..Er, I mean the application, haha. Sorry.
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  31. Post #1791
    World of Vagax
    darth-veger's Avatar
    December 2008
    17,525 Posts
    ..Er, I mean the application, haha. Sorry.
    The one i run now (SS13) is called BYOND
    The one i want to run is Phoenix Emulator, you have to pay 20 pounds though in order to use the emulator
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  32. Post #1792
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    May 2008
    1,982 Posts
    Now KDE has decided to shut the sound off for everything except itself. I'll try out gnome. Maybe it'll not be a dick to settings.
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  33. Post #1793
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    January 2011
    2,551 Posts
    Now KDE has decided to shut the sound off for everything except itself. I'll try out gnome. Maybe it'll not be a dick to settings.
    After dicking around with KDE and GNOME, I've settled with E17. Currently, it's actually not half bad. Oh, and it's much faster than I'd ever expect. Runs perfectly fast on a 512MB pentium 4 computer with Arch, running Firefox, irssi, Skype, and a couple of idle terminals and one compiling some stuff.
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  34. Post #1794
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    January 2012
    1,012 Posts
    After dicking around with KDE and GNOME, I've settled with E17. Currently, it's actually not half bad. Oh, and it's much faster than I'd ever expect. Runs perfectly fast on a 512MB pentium 4 computer with Arch, running Firefox, irssi, Skype, and a couple of idle terminals and one compiling some stuff.
    Last time i installed e17, it segv'd everywhere
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  35. Post #1795
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    October 2005
    6,120 Posts
    Last time i installed e17, it segv'd everywhere
    Where did you install it from? The version in the Debian/Ubuntu repos are really really really really old.
    Versions from SVN are more stable and feature complete.
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  36. Post #1796
    T3hGamerDK's Avatar
    January 2011
    2,551 Posts
    Last time i installed e17, it segv'd everywhere
    This one is running perfectly. Also with Elsa as the DM, and even though it does have a nVidia card, I'm using the software renderer. Everything else is SHIT on the geforce 6200.
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  37. Post #1797
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    October 2005
    6,120 Posts
    This one is running perfectly. Also with Elsa as the DM, and even though it does have a nVidia card, I'm using the software renderer. Everything else is SHIT on the geforce 6200.
    I could never really get Elsa working properly, always had rendering issues, and it never remembered what Xsession was my default. I just use LXDM vv
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  38. Post #1798
    Dennab
    April 2010
    2,092 Posts
    Is there a SWF decompiler for Linux in deb, rpm package?
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  39. Post #1799
    Rayjingstorm's Avatar
    June 2010
    1,313 Posts
    Writing from the dwb browser in the dwm manager
    Havn't used the mouse in a while, but youtube is trying my patience; is there any good way to control the youtube player without a mouse in dwb?
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  40. Post #1800
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    July 2008
    3,403 Posts
    Got my package manager downloading files from an external server, and was going to write a config file loader but then I discovered zsh.
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