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Post #41
So you're telling me that rounds designed as Anti-materiel can rip through things?
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Brotip: 7,62x54R is usually recognised as slightly more "powerful" than .30-06.pssh mythbusters just goes for big "bang" and flashiness, they don't test individual bullets within a caliber.
(hence why I call it crap)
box of truth tests SS109
With the ~13 inches of paper they were using in that experiment, they could have penetrated it with .30-06 AP or even 7.62x54R out of a dragunov or nugget.
even .45-70 works
.30-06 with AP ammo
aww yeah bizznatch
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That's cool and all that a shit ton of phone books can stop bullets, but if you stack enough shit in a row it can stop bullets. Do the same for bricks, steel, ceramic, etc and it does the same thing.
Its a cool concept but entirely unpractical.
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yeah but it tumbled more in paper, only penetrated 15 inches in both shots because it was deflected (on both shots)
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot31_4.htm
so less effective for the sort of thing they were trying.
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I think the funniest thing mythbusters did was testing shooting through a scope and into the other snipers eye.
They didn't use match ammo or test elevation and expected it to go through.
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Actually, .30-06 is slightly better, but the difference is so minimal it's barely worth mentioning.
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When it comes to military rounds they're either very similar or 54R has a slight advantage. Obviously factory loads and handloads are more "powerful" considering .30-06 has more powder capacity.
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yeah and the tester is using vintage military ammo
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Say what now?
Also my streamlight TLR2 is coming in the mail today. Never been so excited to see the UPS driver ever.
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If you saw the episode, and I remember it correctly when retelling it, the Mythbusters didn't just slap a fuckton of phone books onto a car and shoot at it, I'm pretty sure they did penetration testing at a range before covering a van in paper and driving it in the middle of an abandoned mine, then shooting at it.
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sooooo what?
they never cover the same range of calibers as BoT, much less multiple bullets in a single caliber (they compare ball and green tip for 5.56 NATO)
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THE HORROR!
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Either that, or they cut it out to make for better, shorter television.
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Mother of god.
Yes, it's a 5.7x28 AR upper that takes P90 mags.
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Getting a CZ 455 American package as my first gun!!
5500 NOK/$950 for the rifle itself and following parts:
22LR barrel (threaded)
17HMR barrel
One 22LR mag, one 17HMR/22WMR mag
Disassembly tool, barrel change tool and magwell block (For the shorter .22LR mags)
I'll also get an A-Tec CMM4 Rimfire silencer for the .22LR barrel. A friend's gonna help me find a scope and mount for it. :)
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Hollow point ammo. Why would they do that?
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Ah, that glorious taste of czechnology. Kudos, my friend.
Getting a CZ 455 American package as my first gun!!
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Nothing very new about that, they've been out for a good few years.Mother of god.
Yes, it's a 5.7x28 AR upper that takes P90 mags.
I personally love the look of the P90's.
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An excellent first gun I must say! Congrats. :)
Getting a CZ 455 American package as my first gun!!
5500 NOK/$950 for the rifle itself and following parts:
22LR barrel (threaded)
17HMR barrel
One 22LR mag, one 17HMR/22WMR mag
Disassembly tool, barrel change tool and magwell block (For the shorter .22LR mags)
I'll also get an A-Tec CMM4 Rimfire silencer for the .22LR barrel. A friend's gonna help me find a scope and mount for it. :)
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Well, it's the first time I heard about it. That magazine looks incredibly good on a traditional-looking rifle, I wonder why they haven't made something similar for a less gimmicky round.
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Thanks!
It will be another two-three months before I get it though, as I'm starting the hunting proficiency course on Monday, having the final exam sometime mid-March. Then I'll send my application asap and buy it as soon as I get it returned. I think I'll go buy the silencer sometime next week so I can experiment with DuraCoat.
I get the rimfire silencers at my local sporting store for just around 60 bucks, so I'll most likely buy two so I can use the modules from the second one on my first one (making a total of 8 modules).
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I wouldn't mind one in .223 or 9x39..
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I'd rejoice too if the damn ammo wasn't so damned expensive.Mother of god.
Yes, it's a 5.7x28 AR upper that takes P90 mags.
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That delicious forbidden fruit... Legal gizmos aside, would it be that hard to handload it somehow (the case is a necked 7,62x39 IIRC) and make an AK barrel for it?
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Absolutely nobody produces bullets or casings
You'd have to make them yourself
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About the same cost as .223, but not as good of a defensive round.
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Got my TLR2 mounted.
Pretty awesome, a really powerful light from such a small piece of hardware. Plus the laser. Not surprised though, the price and name really says it all.
All i need to do is change the sights on it and I'll have a good duty weapon.
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Shouldn't be so bad once the patient on the ammo expires. From what I understand once that does it will make the ammo more available due to more people making it.
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Have my EDC kit
Anticlockwise starting at 12:
Moist Nugget M44
Dosh pouch
Ping pouch + additional ping
Walther P1
AG3 bayonet
Leatherman PST II
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Props on the Leatherman. I have an original PST that I still carry daily.
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my dad has one
I just have a fucking victorinox >:(
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My EDC:
HTC Inspire phone
Wallet
Gerber folding knife
Handful of change (to throw at roaming bands of hobos)
Sig P228
Para 1911 (for when 9mm isn't enough)
M1 carbine trunk gun (for those rare times when .45 isn't enough)
M1A (for when I need to defend myself beyond 50 yds)
870 12ga (for defense against flying orange discs moving away from me)
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Well... I am surprised you don't lug around a couple grenades.
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you forgot the M7A3 grenade launching attachment and the M31 rifle grenade for defense against light armored vehicles and for use in road rage
oh and the Strela for those annoying news helis
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In reply to the AR-57...
I want it so badly now...
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I think its pretty clever how they dump the casings out of the now-unused magwell.
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so i was watching a video of some guy shooting a M249 and i saw that when he put in a new belt and cocked the gun, he pulls it back, then pushes it forward, and i noticed that almost all belt fed guns do that. versus just pulling it back and releasing it, the spring making the bolt feed the next round. why do they do that?
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So how do you fellows feel about shoulder holsters?
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Getting rid of what might be another extra part?
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Ohhh pushing it back in, I dunno, they trust their own hands more than the spring would be my guess.
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heres a video of what im talking about @0:20
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insurgents are crazy when it comes to mounting guns
taken by someone who was actually there
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Reminds me of the German motorcycles with MG 42s on the side cars.insurgents are crazy when it comes to mounting guns
taken by someone who was actually there
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i wonder if it can fire while on the move
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Nope it would roll forwards as soon as it fires.
By the way, my new Mosin Nagant, is a 1938 Tula with matching numbers and an excellent bore.
fuck yes.
And this is an achievement for me because I live in Victoria, Australia where Mosins in stores are literally non-existent.
Still $375 god fucking damnit.
I already know what my next rifle will be, No.4 or SMLE Lee Enfield.
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Winner x 26
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