1. Post #10121
    I'm a Raider player and even I find those weapons overpowered as fuck
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  2. Post #10122
    Aedus's Avatar
    January 2012
    529 Posts
    The plasma rifle looks way to good, 3 shoots and no drop insta kill on medium.
    Yeah, looks like the falcon being the only straight upgrade may be cut short, we'll see
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  3. Post #10123
    Chirno's Avatar
    August 2010
    4,074 Posts
    man fuck those weapons
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  4. Post #10124
    Gold Member
    =DarkStar='s Avatar
    August 2010
    8,976 Posts
    The skins are hideous as usual.
    Why don't they make a skin that looks like a higher rank raider instead? That you buy one and get the BE and DS version? It would be so easy, stick some metal slabs on the armor, add a cape or whatever and PRESTO, there you have a higher ranked class skin. No, we get a doom guy and a space biker.

    I mean, I like that they invest time adding mercenaries and stuff to add a level of depth to the narration, but what if I love BE and DS? And would like to see how a high ranked soldier look like? In my opinion alien races/mercenaries/hired assassins skins should come after higher rank BE and DS skins.
    I bet in the future they will inplement the old Raider skin back.

    But cmon the Griever skin is cool unlike the asassin and the mercenary.
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  5. Post #10125
    Dummkopfs!'s Avatar
    August 2010
    1,012 Posts
    Even thought i cant/wont be able to get anything from this update...i'm still as excited as i was for older TF2 updates...and that gotta count for something...keep up HiRez..
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  6. Post #10126
    wow ok
    Teh Zip File's Avatar
    December 2007
    16,418 Posts
    Uploaded to Tribes channel 3 minutes ago

    My poor, poor generator... first they update infiltrator, now the raider...
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  7. Post #10127
    little.sparrow's Avatar
    June 2010
    4,871 Posts
    Those weapons.

    >cluster grenade
    GEE, WAY TO MAKE THE BRUTE MORE USELESS

    >Everything else
    No. the plasma rifle just doesn't fit the raider's theme of grenade launchers. the NJ5B seems alright, being a small change, it might be a cheap gun.
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  8. Post #10128
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    Kinglah Crab's Avatar
    November 2007
    7,784 Posts
    i thought the infiltrator mercenary not having any arm plating was pretty crazy considering they're going from planet to planet

    and now the griever doesn't even have a helmet

    what the fuck how does he breathe on some maps
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  9. Post #10129
    little.sparrow's Avatar
    June 2010
    4,871 Posts
    I'm actually starting to lose a lot of faith in Hi-rez now.
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  10. Post #10130
    radiomonster's Avatar
    July 2008
    2,134 Posts
    I can't wait to insta kill everyone with the plasma rifle

    Fuck it'd be overpowered even at 350 damage, but 500? That's ridiculous I can already see the rape
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  11. Post #10131
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    kukiric's Avatar
    July 2006
    3,108 Posts
    And it's almost like they made the NJ5 resemble the Battle Rifle from Halo on purpose, just so more people say it looks like Halo. Fucking hell.
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  12. Post #10132
    Aedus's Avatar
    January 2012
    529 Posts
    I can't wait to insta kill everyone with the plasma rifle

    Fuck it'd be overpowered even at 350 damage, but 500? That's ridiculous I can already see the rape
    Give it a day before the nerf.
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  13. Post #10133
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    Ripper Roo's Avatar
    July 2011
    3,856 Posts
    I'm okay with Mercenary skins but Assassin and Griever are really ugly in my opinion. Out of place.
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  14. Post #10134
    majan222's Avatar
    July 2011
    455 Posts
    Uploaded to Tribes channel 3 minutes ago

    Is it just me or these guys are freaking creepy?
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  15. Post #10135
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    =DarkStar='s Avatar
    August 2010
    8,976 Posts

    Lets cheer up before the Raider week of terror
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  16. Post #10136
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    krail9's Avatar
    June 2008
    7,494 Posts
    hahaha, the plasma rifle does the same damage as the arx, but no delay, larger mag and bigger projectile.
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  17. Post #10137
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    -<PsY>-'s Avatar
    September 2005
    556 Posts
    Tip for when this comes out- Don't rush to buy them, wait until they've been given appropriate adjustments the day after and see if they're still worth it.
    But I have 800k excess xp to spend.
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  18. Post #10138

    December 2007
    48 Posts
    I think the skins are horrible and the guns are overpowered. Then again, I didn't have to watch the video to know that. Woo hoo Hi-Rez, this is going to remind me of TF2 where the updates were wonderful at first, but it all became too much and ruined the experience after a while..

    Hi-Rez will reach this point far sooner judging by those awful skins
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  19. Post #10139
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    Foogooman's Avatar
    March 2005
    3,832 Posts
    You guys are over-reacting. The plasma cannon does less damage than the light spinfusor. The plasma rifle is gonna have lower DPS than any other rifle meaning you're gonna hit them a lot less than they hit you if they also have a rifle. Two shots from the Sparrow (Raider's other rifle) does 60 damage more than 1 shot from the plasma rifle and it the time the PR can fire one shot the Sparrow can probably fire 3. And those grenades looks like they do piss poor damage and are mostly good for disorientating the enemy.

    Edited:

    I think the skins are horrible and the guns are overpowered. Then again, I didn't have to watch the video to know that. Woo hoo Hi-Rez, this is going to remind me of TF2 where the updates were wonderful at first, but it all became too much and ruined the experience after a while..

    Hi-Rez will reach this point far sooner judging by those awful skins
    If anyone is going to ruin the experience it's pessimistic cry babies who complain every time a patch comes out because they assume everything is overpowered and that Hi-Rez won't balance it.

    So far Hi-Rez has done a great job of balancing the game and meeting the desires of the players.
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  20. Post #10140
    wow ok
    Teh Zip File's Avatar
    December 2007
    16,418 Posts
    You guys are over-reacting. The plasma cannon does less damage than the light spinfusor. The plasma rifle is gonna have lower DPS than any other rifle meaning you're gonna hit them a lot less than they hit you if they also have a rifle. Two shots from the Sparrow (Raider's other rifle) does 60 damage more than 1 shot from the plasma rifle and it the time the PR can fire one shot the Sparrow can probably fire 3. And those grenades looks like they do piss poor damage and are mostly good for disorientating the enemy.
    The plasma cannon is does 500 damage a shot, high rate of fire, 8 shots, no drop, explodes on impact.

    They can fire one spinfusor shot while you fire like three.

    Edited:

    I'm sure they'll be nerfed before it comes out, but look at the jackal. That's still overpowered.
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  21. Post #10141
    jackattack's Avatar
    October 2010
    7,399 Posts
    Just wait until they upgrade the tech. (If they ever do :( )

    Electro-paralysis traps all over the flag stand and generator room while artillery turrets shell them from about 5 feet away.

    That might be awesome though, they would be able to compete.
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  22. Post #10142
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    Foogooman's Avatar
    March 2005
    3,832 Posts
    The plasma cannon is does 500 damage a shot, high rate of fire, 8 shots, no drop, explodes on impact.

    They can fire one spinfusor shot while you fire like three.

    Edited:

    I'm sure they'll be nerfed before it comes out, but look at the jackal. That's still overpowered.
    We'll see how it plays out, it may need a nerf.

    The jackal is fine, it's just more tactically useful than most weapons. If you know how to counter it it's really not OP. If you blunder around and fall into traps like a dumbass then yeah you're gonna feel it's OP. Thumpher techs, juggs and raider are still a big problem for Infs. And people only think it's OP because for some reason they think infiltrators shouldn't be able to kill things like every other class can.
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  23. Post #10143
    Grass Poison
    leonthefox's Avatar
    March 2010
    16,830 Posts
    I 'm not sure about the plasma cannon and the NJ5-B, but those grenades, I must get them
    I bet in the future they will inplement the old Raider skin back.

    But cmon the Griever skin is cool unlike the asassin and the mercenary.
    I like griever's armor, but the lack of a helmet killed my boner

    The mercenary skin looks like your generic military green armor space marine
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  24. Post #10144
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    Guillebon's Avatar
    June 2010
    4,869 Posts
    VGW a new update! .... for a class..... that I never play.
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  25. Post #10145
    little.sparrow's Avatar
    June 2010
    4,871 Posts
    Hirez should stop the "one class" updates and do a big, general one. People play the class to death, making it harder for people on the receiving end of the new guns.
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  26. Post #10146
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    Guillebon's Avatar
    June 2010
    4,869 Posts
    They should add atleast ONE weapon for each armor type, for example:

    Raid and Pillage Update = 2 skins for raider, 2 weapons for Raider, 1 weapon for Brute, 1 weapon for Pathfinder, 1 new granade for the three.

    Or something on those lines.
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  27. Post #10147
    Grass Poison
    leonthefox's Avatar
    March 2010
    16,830 Posts
    Hirez should stop the "one class" updates and do a big, general one. People play the class to death, making it harder for people on the receiving end of the new guns.
    I would like two or three classes getting new wepaons each update
    And come on, least make the armor of the skins team colored.
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  28. Post #10148
    The Devourer of Souls
    Rhenae's Avatar
    July 2011
    3,058 Posts
    So, anyone mind listing the common abbreviations people use in chat and what they mean? I've picked up HoF after asking because one person kept saying we needed one one round.

    What are the others?
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  29. Post #10149

    July 2011
    2,327 Posts
    rape & pillage update
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  30. Post #10150
    Grass Poison
    leonthefox's Avatar
    March 2010
    16,830 Posts
    They should add atleast ONE weapon for each armor type, for example:

    Raid and Pillage Update = 2 skins for raider, 2 weapons for Raider, 1 weapon for Brute, 1 weapon for Pathfinder, 1 new granade for the three.

    Or something on those lines.
    When I heard "raid and pillage" I expected both, the raider and brute getting new stuff, because the brute is also good at base rape

    Edited:

    So, anyone mind listing the common abbreviations people use in chat and what they mean? I've picked up HoF after asking because one person kept saying we needed one one round.

    What are the others?
    B2F: Back to front cap route
    F2B: front to back cap route
    EFC: Enemy Flac Carrier
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  31. Post #10151
    wow ok
    Teh Zip File's Avatar
    December 2007
    16,418 Posts
    We'll see how it plays out, it may need a nerf.

    The jackal is fine, it's just more tactically useful than most weapons. If you know how to counter it it's really not OP. If you blunder around and fall into traps like a dumbass then yeah you're gonna feel it's OP. Thumpher techs, juggs and raider are still a big problem for Infs. And people only think it's OP because for some reason they think infiltrators shouldn't be able to kill things like every other class can.
    I never see them set traps with it. They usually just cloak, run up to you, shoot three shots and then explode them, which deals enough damage to insta-kill lights and mediums. It's also completely better than the stealth spinfusor - I never see infiltrators using that.
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  32. Post #10152
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    Squeaken's Avatar
    January 2007
    3,710 Posts
    Didn't we all go through the same shit with the cloak and dagger shit?
    Christ just because the player in the video is doing well doesn't mean the weapon is spastically overpowered.

    Edited:

    (and who gives a fuck about skins)
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  33. Post #10153
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    Foogooman's Avatar
    March 2005
    3,832 Posts
    I never see them set traps with it. They usually just cloak, run up to you, shoot three shots and then explode them, which deals enough damage to insta-kill lights and mediums. It's also completely better than the stealth spinfusor - I never see infiltrators using that.
    When I say traps I don't just mean jackal bombs placed on a doorway waiting for someone to walk through. I mean tactical traps like standing still while repairing the gen or not setting up motion sensors or having a raider with a jammer pack repair the gen. As always, infiltrators are most deadly when they have use of stealth and can get into the gen room undetected. Take that away from them and they're less deadly than other combat classes.
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  34. Post #10154
    RIPBILLYMAYS's Avatar
    July 2010
    3,562 Posts
    guys

    i achieved

    MAXIMUM

    FAST



    and I decided to check fast counter

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  35. Post #10155
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    Bbls's Avatar
    February 2009
    7,156 Posts
    VGO
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  36. Post #10156

    December 2007
    48 Posts
    You guys are over-reacting. The plasma cannon does less damage than the light spinfusor. The plasma rifle is gonna have lower DPS than any other rifle meaning you're gonna hit them a lot less than they hit you if they also have a rifle. Two shots from the Sparrow (Raider's other rifle) does 60 damage more than 1 shot from the plasma rifle and it the time the PR can fire one shot the Sparrow can probably fire 3. And those grenades looks like they do piss poor damage and are mostly good for disorientating the enemy.

    Edited:


    If anyone is going to ruin the experience it's pessimistic cry babies who complain every time a patch comes out because they assume everything is overpowered and that Hi-Rez won't balance it.

    So far Hi-Rez has done a great job of balancing the game and meeting the desires of the players.
    Hi-Rez is good at listening to their fanbase, but this is a flaw just as much as it is a positive.

    You probably like the current aesthetic of a TF2 game. Case in point
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  37. Post #10157
    Gold Member
    The golden's Avatar
    June 2005
    15,579 Posts
    Oh cool. More over powered weapons to further butcher what little balance this game has left.

    So glad I've only spent $9 on this game.
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  38. Post #10158
    snarglemuffin's Avatar
    October 2011
    205 Posts
    "We also wanted to create a weapon that was truly cool to newcomers."
    pretty much sums up hi-rez's marketing and philosophy


    also does this guy have spaces in his name?
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  39. Post #10159
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    The golden's Avatar
    June 2005
    15,579 Posts
    "We also wanted to create a weapon that was truly cool to newcomers."

    Pretty much the slogan for the entire game.

    This game was so much fun back in the early beta, but its going down the shitter fast.
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  40. Post #10160
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    Foogooman's Avatar
    March 2005
    3,832 Posts
    You two sure are shitty. Please stop playing and bringing the community down.
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