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1st pic he's lookin like the terminator
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I'll just re-post here so people can know what you're talking about.
My Dad's in the middle, 1st place.
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"my dad is natty"
LOL
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He competes in shows that require polygraphs and drug tests to avoid having steroid users compete. I know he's natural, I've lived with him for 18 years of my life with absolutely no such suspicions he's ever done steroids. I found out he smoked weed when I was like 10, he's terrible at hiding secrets, and if he took the juice, that would be something I would have already known. Don't be so butthurt at the fact that someones hard work and dedication paid off without the use of enhancement drugs. Believe what you want but I know without a doubt my dad isn't on steroids.
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Also, if you think you would need steroids to achieve that size you are sorely mistaken. Not every single human being stops growing at the same point if they're natural.
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ahahahhaha you know nothing about testing procedures.
Polygraphs holy fuck i haven't laughed this hard in a while.
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Your dad is not natty, you need to get over it and move on. Nobody is criticizing him for it, we're just amused by how desperately you need to think he is natty.
Steroid use is one of the most secretive behaviors, so you living with him for 18 years and not suspecting shit doesn't mean a fucking thing. A smart bber with a family would not keep the gear at his home.
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LOL Knew you'd be the one to post! I don't care about anything you have to say, you probably take steroids yourself which is why you're so against the fact that he's natural and did it without any drugs. YOU are the one who knows nothing about testing procedures, where the fuck is your proof that there is no polygraphs in any of the competitions? I have email proof that there is one! Do you compete? Doubt that. Do you know someone who's been competing for 30 years? Doubt that.
Why do you care so much that I know my dad doesn't do steroids? It just keeps adding to the fact that you're mad and people don't need drugs to achieve a certain size, if you believed he did steroids you would have kept you mouth shut after the first couple posts and been done with it and not keep trying to prove your point because in the end I don't give two shits and I know the truth LOL.
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Also secretive behaviors?! HAH! And I'm quoting you "holy fuck i haven't laughed this hard in a while" Everyone at my gym who does it is so open about it, it's spoken about all the fucking time. You can't compare where you live to where I live buddy, doesn't work like that. Any other attempts at trying to be a smart ass and horribly failing?
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Also, curious as to what explains his absolute hate for juicers, I can't go a whole day (just after competition time) about how much he hates juicers and being natural is the way to go. I've never in my life heard a juicer who has purposely dissed himself. I know my dad better than anyone on this planet, if he's hiding something I would have easily found out what it was by now. He's natural, and you're the one who needs to get over it.
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Jaeger is pretty knowledgeable about all this stuff, so I wouldn't be barking up that tree.
Perhaps he talks down about juicers because of an insecurity, or because he wants to be a good role-model or something. Personally, I wouldn't tell my family if I was on roids, especially if I had a loud-mouthed son.
He's your dad, obviously you're gonna be defensive when someone calls him a liar, even if it's not that big of a deal anyway.
Anyway, you need to calm down, you're clearly being worked up about this.
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He's trying to be a good role model and lie about the truth behind his massive group of juicers, to protect you of course.
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You'd be worked up to if you knew your dad wasn't on the juice and someone who thinks he knows it all says he is. Jaeger may be knowledgeable about some things, but not with this, he said "Polygraphs holy fuck i haven't laughed this hard in a while." Well, I have email proof of their being a polygraph at the next show. Shows how much he knows right there. He literally has no way of proving my dad is on steroids, saying just by looking at someone and saying they're on steroids doesn't prove shit. It's called hard work and dedication, and that's it.
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He doesn't just say it around me, I overhear him talking to other people about it as well, even guys at the gym. He also does school seminars about not taking steroids lol.. So I'm afraid that isn't the reason.
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i don't think he doubted there was a polygraph, i think he found it funny that you thought a polygraph would prove your dad was natty
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So you're telling me that my dad knows how to beat a polygraph but murderer's can't?
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Also, no more fucking arguments. You can all think he's on steroids all you want, it will not change the truth and my beliefs. No more flaming, no more arguing, it's done with. K thanks.
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first off, i wasn't telling you what i thought, but what he thought, and secondly, there's a reason polygraphs aren't considered very reliable
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hey relax he pulled out the k thanks
you dont know what youre messin with
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AFAIK you can't use polygraphs in court as something with any weight, or something (I don't know for sure, I just heard about it) It doesn't really count.
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Anywho in the end some have different beliefs and opinions than others. I know the truth and that's all that matters to me. Happy Body Building
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vancity pm posted:
oh shit please this day cant get any better ahahahhhahha
PLEASE
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p.s kid, i've replied to maybe 3 of your posts, next to the countless pages of you masturbating about your dad competing in a competition against roiders and how it's going to be sooo hard because he's a natty.
Point in case, I didn't bring up the fact your dad isn't natty, shovelpass did and you blew up again. lmfao
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*Doesn't know what to say* *Posts picture of something completely meaningless*
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oh shit please this day cant get any better ahahahhhahha
PLEASE
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p.s kid, i've replied to maybe 3 of your posts, next to the countless pages of you masturbating about your dad competing in a competition against roiders and how it's going to be sooo hard because he's a natty.
Point in case, I didn't bring up the fact your dad isn't natty, shovelpass did and you blew up again. lmfao
GG?
Also, refer to my above post there pal. Read it? Got it? Good, glad we understand!
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Natty or not, he's got a great looking physique, no gut, narrow waist, nice looking abs and evenly worked body overall. The third one does not even have a low body fat, the fug.I'll just re-post here so people can know what you're talking about.
My Dad's in the middle, 1st place.
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congrats to your dad either way, that is one tan motherfucker
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Thank you, I appreciate that.
Thanks man!
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I actually get to be in the news paper with him posing at the gym, gonna be pretty cool!
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Because it's sooooo hard to keep something that only has to be done twice a week or so (hell you can even get away with doing long esters once a week) and takes a few minutes to do a secret.
Kid is in strong denial. Daddy is prolly getting a buddy to stick a needle in his ass at the gym. I have nothing against steroids, I've used them and intend to using them further, and I have nothing against bodybuilders who use steroids (which is all of them), but I find it disgusting when they try too hard to milk the natty thing. There's a difference between claiming natty to keep your sponsorships and whatnot and claiming natty so hard you're willing to lie to your son.
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Make sure to scan/take a pic of the article when it comes out.
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Pointless discussion - his dad being a natty or not.
He may be a natty; I can't really see the full magnitude of his dad's physique, nor I know his weight and height.
He may be on roids; none of our business, whether he decides to lie or not.
I loved the photos and I would like to also see the magazine.
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is there any way of getting rid of stretch marks, or at least treating them so they're less noticeable?
i've noticed a few marks on my bis, shoulders and upper legs recently. you can't really tell from far away but up close it's pretty noticeable.
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while i'm on the subject, what even causes stretch marks?
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budspunce you're pregnant.
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I've recently come to the conclusion stretch marks might be caused by bad posture, although not exclusively.
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wot
explain stretch marks on arms shoulders quads ect.
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Cocoa butter is good at helping with stretch marks. Pregnant women use it.
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shoulders = ?
quads = ?
There could be a number of areas, but from my own personal experience here...
Shoulders = tight pecs
quads = (depeding on the area) tight hip flexors.
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Trying to eat better than what i used to, i used to eat way to little.
Started doing a slight bulk but i don't think i can classify it as that.
2600 calories, around 166grams of carbs and 199 grams of protein.
I have a feeling i lack alot of carbs, i mean alot. So i need to go to the store and buy some oats.
Does this look good if i up the carbs?
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166 grams is pretty low, but that is all dependent on how much daily activity you do and your training.
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I workout three times a week that contains alot of compound excersies.
And my daily activity is at moderate, i venture out with friends atleast once a day. And i'd say my training is moderate - heavy.
But does it look fine, anything i'm doing wrong? im welcoming criticism since i want to make sure i don't fuck up.
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I never count calories, carbs, protein or fats. It is utterly useless to be honest.
Cycle low carb-high carb days when you train; train - high carbs, complex, rest - low carbs, complex.
Play with that scheme, see if it works for you. Some might feel drained, some won't.
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depends, what's your weight?
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Around 68kg.
178cm tall.
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here's a bulk guide that i'm following: http://supplementreviews.com/forum/i...hp?topic=130.0
protein: 187g-225g
carbs: 225g-262g
fat: 90g - 112g
caloric minimum: 2458 - 2956, but you can increase it if you think your metabolism is higher than normal
while seith thinks it's useless to keep track, it's been nothing but awesome for me. i've entered everything into a spreadsheet that i use as a checklist for every day, to make sure i'm going past my minimum.
you can choose to ignore the meal set-up if you want, honestly all you need to worry about is getting what your body needs for the whole day
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Thanks alot.
First time bulking, etc. My main worry is the fat though.
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the fat from food isn't the same as body fat, you actually do need it for essential body functions, etc
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No i meant the bodyfat.
I know that fats are essential.
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Anyone got a copy of "The Protein Book" by Lyle McDonald?
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