1. Post #1361
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    Seith's Avatar
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    Best of luck to you, friend...
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  2. Post #1362
    hang you're self
    G71tc4's Avatar
    March 2008
    4,080 Posts
    I dont think anyone remembers this, but a few months ago i made a post about starting lifting and eating better. Well that lasted for a few weeks before i fell back into being a depressed little bitch and gained everything back.

    I did start up again tho and so far ive lost 12kg and it feels pretty good man
    Just keep your goals front and center in your mind. Ive been there man, still end up there sometimes, but you can do it. Best of luck.
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  3. Post #1363
    EggWhite's Avatar
    April 2008
    127 Posts
    So I was wondering which is the worse of the 3

    Squatting with bad form
    Squatting on the smith
    Not squatting at all
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  4. Post #1364
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    djshox's Avatar
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    bad form
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  5. Post #1365
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    June 2010
    2,536 Posts
    I'm goanna start taking my fitness alot more seriously. I haven't been this motivated in a while.
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  6. Post #1366
    Bleach Qeef's Avatar
    June 2007
    1,484 Posts
    Busted my ankle holy phuck. I think it's just sprained.

    wat do
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  7. Post #1367
    hang you're self
    G71tc4's Avatar
    March 2008
    4,080 Posts
    Busted my ankle holy phuck. I think it's just sprained.

    wat do
    ice

    rest
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  8. Post #1368
    Bleach Qeef's Avatar
    June 2007
    1,484 Posts
    ice

    rest
    lol rest

    okay
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  9. Post #1369
    hang you're self
    G71tc4's Avatar
    March 2008
    4,080 Posts
    lol rest

    okay
    sprained the fuck out of a wrist, all i could do was wrap it up (you may do that) and let it heal itself, ice was for the pain etc
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  10. Post #1370
    Kabstrac's Avatar
    April 2012
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    sprained the fuck out of a wrist, all i could do was wrap it up (you may do that) and let it heal itself, ice was for the pain etc
    I thought you are supposed to stick the ice up your butt?
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  11. Post #1371
    JaegerMonster's Avatar
    April 2010
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    I hate this section
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  12. Post #1372
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    Seith's Avatar
    August 2006
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    So I was wondering which is the worse of the 3

    Squatting with bad form
    Squatting on the smith
    Not squatting at all
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  13. Post #1373
    Kabstrac's Avatar
    April 2012
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    I hate this section
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  14. Post #1374
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    not squatting at all = not squatting at all
    squatting on smith = diminished gains, but hey good for beginners
    bad form = enjoy destroying your body
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  15. Post #1375
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    June 2006
    288 Posts
    not squatting at all = not squatting at all
    squatting on smith = diminished gains, but hey good for beginners
    bad form = enjoy destroying your body
    Squatting on smith = your body WILL get fucked up by doing this

    Seriously, I do not advocate the smith machine for anyone, especially beginners learning to squat. That is, unless you like being forced into unnatural movements therefore getting knee/back pain and also the fact that the weight you're squatting on a smith machine doesn't translate over to a free barbell.
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  16. Post #1376
    Bleach Qeef's Avatar
    June 2007
    1,484 Posts
    Just L2squat.


    Its better to not hurt yourself at all and make gainz. l2think
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  17. Post #1377
    hang you're self
    G71tc4's Avatar
    March 2008
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    not squatting at all = not squatting at all
    squatting on smith = diminished gains, but hey good for beginners
    bad form = enjoy destroying your body
    if the form isn't ridiculous it would just mean not as much gained (like half squats or something)
    if it's making your body move in the wrong way, you will die

    Edited:

    Also what Qeef said
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  18. Post #1378
    JaegerMonster's Avatar
    April 2010
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    tsk tsk implying that hack squats aren't a superior alternative and much safer.

    Edited:

    just kidding hack squats are for faggots

    wannabe deadlift
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  19. Post #1379
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    January 2009
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    Is using a machine to squat truly that terrible?
    The normal squat rack at my gym is rather annoying for me to use as I am just the wrong length to easily put the bar back in the rack.

    I hear quite often that machines are not to be trusted but well I generally don't see many people actually using proper arguments or sources.

    While I am posting i might as well ask about my other issues.

    I've been quite sick the last couple of days and as a result there of I think I may have lost quite a bit of strength.
    I now weigh only 65 Kilogram while I am 1.80 meters.

    Constantly I'm unable to hit previous targets and have been feeling quite weak in both strength and willpower.
    Should I try taking it lighter or should I keep at it till I reach my former strength?
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  20. Post #1380
    Shovelpass's Avatar
    January 2012
    609 Posts
    Using a smith machine to squat is terrible.

    However, leg press and hack squat machines are perfectly fine. Barbell squats are the best for building leg strength but leg press and hack squats are a little better for hypertrophy, just depends on your goals.
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  21. Post #1381
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    August 2006
    3,120 Posts
    the fact it's a machine doesn't, black n white, determine how much hypertrophy he'll induce but rather the factors around his actual lifts; tempo, rest intervals etc...

    While different muscles are activated with each of the above, for maximum hypertrophy one should aim at an exercise that induces the use of as much motor units as possible.

    machines for a beginner are bollocks... imagine doing 5 sets of 10 on a free-barbell vs the leg press. I'd shit my face on the barbell.

    Edited:

    Is using a machine to squat truly that terrible?
    The normal squat rack at my gym is rather annoying for me to use as I am just the wrong length to easily put the bar back in the rack.

    I hear quite often that machines are not to be trusted but well I generally don't see many people actually using proper arguments or sources.

    While I am posting i might as well ask about my other issues.

    I've been quite sick the last couple of days and as a result there of I think I may have lost quite a bit of strength.
    I now weigh only 65 Kilogram while I am 1.80 meters.

    Constantly I'm unable to hit previous targets and have been feeling quite weak in both strength and willpower.
    Should I try taking it lighter or should I keep at it till I reach my former strength?
    So using machines would solve the above problem? sounds like an escape route rather than an actual resolution.

    1.80m is the standard height for racks, the fuck are you on about? find a different gym or a box of some sorts...
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  22. Post #1382
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    July 2007
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    Squatting on smith = your body WILL get fucked up by doing this

    Seriously, I do not advocate the smith machine for anyone, especially beginners learning to squat. That is, unless you like being forced into unnatural movements therefore getting knee/back pain and also the fact that the weight you're squatting on a smith machine doesn't translate over to a free barbell.
    Really, because when I started squatting I used the smith machine and I had incredible gains within 2 months. I went from 115 to 225 in 2 months and it translated to the barbell. Also I don't recall ever injuring my back or knees from doing the smith machine, as it is just based on proper form of (keeping your back straight, head up, and butt out so your knees don't go past your feet).

    Although I agree that free weights are much better in terms of activing more muscle fibers, machines are good to get into the motion and to build a good amount of muscle before trasnitioning to free weights.
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  23. Post #1383
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    December 2009
    3,203 Posts
    What do I do to replace deadlifting since I can't DL or squat right now
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  24. Post #1384
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    August 2010
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    when you are using a smith machine you are neglecting muscles that should be being used with the exercise. if you ever start exercising with a barbell after prolonged training with only a smith machine, you can get some really fucked up injuries because certain muscles are unprepared.
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  25. Post #1385
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    G71tc4's Avatar
    March 2008
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    while we're on smith discussion, if there's no alternative, is a smith bench too bad? I understand why it could be "fatal" with squats because there's so much motion, but it seems like it wouldn't hinder benching too much as it's a more simple motion
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  26. Post #1386
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    April 2012
    2,983 Posts
    while we're on smith discussion, if there's no alternative, is a smith bench too bad? I understand why it could be "fatal" with squats because there's so much motion, but it seems like it wouldn't hinder benching too much as it's a more simple motion
    It's probably not as bad. I don't know of many absolute no alternative scenarios though.
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  27. Post #1387
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    Seith's Avatar
    August 2006
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    while we're on smith discussion, if there's no alternative, is a smith bench too bad? I understand why it could be "fatal" with squats because there's so much motion, but it seems like it wouldn't hinder benching too much as it's a more simple motion
    the squat relates to a lot of performance elements of weightlifting, but for the casual lifter you might as well just add what you are missing; more glute work on different machines, hamstrings.... etc
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  28. Post #1388
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    June 2011
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    Sigh...

    I gain really fast but my muscle shape is fucking retarded looking. Like my pecs. Both pecs have the same amount of muscle... but one looks retarded.

    The fuck.

    Good and bad genetics.

    why
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  29. Post #1389
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    August 2006
    3,120 Posts
    It could be posture related... you said you have lordosis, right?

    I need pictures to be able to decide....
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  30. Post #1390
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    August 2008
    4,143 Posts
    I read you could treat lordosis by doing warrior lunge stretches each day(I'm doing it, althout I don't have a very serious case) and it seems to be working(mixed with working out).
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  31. Post #1391
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    August 2006
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    You could, but I would dare and say it won't fix the problem completely. There should be a combination of proper activation and mobilization work, alongside foam rolling and stretches to achieve your range of motion fast.
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  32. Post #1392
    Dennab
    May 2012
    1,765 Posts
    I don't really know where to post questions but is mixing weight lifting with cardio good for weight loss or will it just screw me up.

    For example if I do a lower body weight lifting then cardio will that mess something up?
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  33. Post #1393
    BoosLee's Avatar
    January 2009
    1,852 Posts
    Question about creatine - I've been lifting for close to 2 months now, getting my shakes in here and there and increasing the amount I eat. I've gained a pretty small amount of weight at the moment (need to eat more probably). I was wondering if I should consider creatine (I dunno much about it), and how I should go about incorporating it into what I'm doing at the moment.
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  34. Post #1394
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    July 2006
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    Muscle training combined with cardio is an excellent way to lose weight as far as I'm aware, Webby
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  35. Post #1395
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    April 2012
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    Question about creatine - I've been lifting for close to 2 months now, getting my shakes in here and there and increasing the amount I eat. I've gained a pretty small amount of weight at the moment (need to eat more probably). I was wondering if I should consider creatine (I dunno much about it), and how I should go about incorporating it into what I'm doing at the moment.
    "These are the only supplements you need:
    - PROTEIN POWDER, PREFERABLY WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE. (spoiler: all those competeing big name companies get their protein from the same sources, and use the same method, there is no special whey that is going to give you MASSIVE GAINS THAT ONLY OUR COMPANY CAN PROMISE). Alternatives can be WPC, or Casein or egg if you is lactose intolerant.
    - CREATINE MONOHYDRATE it's cheap and effective, for fucks sake just buy a basic creatine monohydrate ignore all the other shit
    - FISH OIL essential if you want to survive the next drive by
    - MULTIVITAMIN no brainer. No you don't get enough vitamins from your pieces of fruit you dumass."

    In the sticky. I think Creatine will just let you get a little edge with 1-2 extra reps, or something.
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  36. Post #1396
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    August 2006
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    Creatine in the long run would probably end in more muscle mass and strength. Longer training = time under tension = hypertrophy...

    If improvement is his goal, then creatine would make him get there faster.
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  37. Post #1397
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    April 2010
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    creatine owns
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  38. Post #1398
    Shovelpass's Avatar
    January 2012
    609 Posts
    I use that Carnivor brotein, has creatine in it too. Great stuff, actually tastes good with just water.
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  39. Post #1399
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    January 2009
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    So using machines would solve the above problem? sounds like an escape route rather than an actual resolution.

    1.80m is the standard height for racks, the fuck are you on about? find a different gym or a box of some sorts...
    For the first problem it seems that I can't exactly just walk it in to clarify. I have to squat a little to get it back in the rack or stand on my toes with the latter being a terrible idea. And it seems like a bad idea to squat on a box.

    I started using the smith machine when it first arrived on the advice of my trainer.
    I'm giving the old squat rack a try again though.
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  40. Post #1400
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL...BmGYUapk#t=90s

    pause it where i left the video at.

    That's what my pecs look like. except ALOT less muscle
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