1. Post #1
    Lord_Ragnarok's Avatar
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    I myself am completely stumped as to why white men in particular commit suicide so often, so you won't get a very zealous response for me. Although I'm not sternly sure of any of them, I do have a few guesses as to why:

    There is much more social pressure on white men to become "successful," which comes with much more social consequences for failure or having a very limited income for into adulthood.
    Perhaps people in communities that are more dangerous appreciate safety and self-preservation?
    In American White culture, happiness, or "success" is often defined on material possession, which according to many psychologists, is not the key to happiness(APA).
    White culture in the United States appears to be less social and more individualistic. Personally, I've observed that in Hispanic and Black neighborhoods people seem to know each other better.


    I really don't know, but I find it to be an interesting sociology question, and because I don't have a strong opinion, I think that this should be a very interesting conversation.


    http://www.suicide.org/suicide-statistics.html

    http://www.apa.org/research/action/rich.aspx

    This is per 100,000 people. That means that having a higher population will NOT cause a group to have a higher suicide rate based on how these statistics were taken. Stop saying that it's because there are more white people.

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    Because they're the majority race?

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    too much white guilt

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    "White Problems" like depression, anxiety, ADHD, etc etc etc.

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    Does this rate take in that there are more white than any other race in the US?

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    It's an interesting question, I can't really put my finger on it.

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    White people make up 72% of the American population. Hispanics/latinos are next with a whopping 16.3%. Its no wonder that out of 300+ million people, whites have the highest suicide rate. These are 2010 census numbers. Blacks are actually third with 12.6%

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    Does this rate take in that there are more white than any other race in the US?
    Yes.

    Edited:

    White people make up 72% of the American population. Blacks are next with a whopping 12.6%. Its no wonder that out of 300+ million people, whites have the highest suicide rate. These are 2010 census numbers.
    The percentage of white people who commit suicide is also much higher.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemi...ce_and_suicide

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    Swebonny's Avatar
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    Also I believe hispanics are considered to be white when doing the statistics.

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    To escape the increasing minorities.

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    Part of it may be that religious people are less likely to commit suicide, and African Americans have the highest levels of religious affiliation in the US.

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    Also I believe hispanics are considered to be white when doing the statistics.
    No their counted by themselves, they account for 16.3% of the American population. 11.5 million or so are illegal though.

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    More materialistic (due to more wealth), less emphasis on family.

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    Must be because they're white.

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    Lord_Ragnarok's Avatar
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    Does this rate take in that there are more white than any other race in the US?
    Yes, it's per 100,000.

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    Sickle's Avatar
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    This is so fucking retarded. It's because there are six times as many white people as any other race.

  17. Post #17
    Lord_Ragnarok's Avatar
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    This is so fucking retarded. It's because there are six times as many white people as any other race.
    It's per 100,000. It's proportionate. Read.

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    Cuz we can't jump or dance.

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    Dennab
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    in all likelihood it's cultural.
    gay people as a population suffer from even higher suicide rates so it's a very tricky question.

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    Lord_Ragnarok's Avatar
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    Also I believe hispanics are considered to be white when doing the statistics.
    According to a study done in 2002, Hispanics commit suicide less often than Asians, who commit suicide significantly less than White people.

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    Dennab
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    oh it's easy. it's because white people are more affluent in america and depression is a disease of affluence

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    Being a white it's easy to say we are the whiniest sons of bitches to walk the planet.

  23. Post #23
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    I think self-esteem is a huge factor. When people see a black janitor they generally think "He's making the best of life that he can." and "He's humble and taking care of his family.". When people see a white janitor, they think "He's probably an alcoholic, maybe he's a little drunk right now." and "He probably made some really bad decisions when he was in college.".

    Even if a white person is doing well, however, it seems that there's constantly a pressure to keep doing better and not be satisfied with what you have, and if a white person claims to want to just "be happy with what they have," people immediately think that it's just an excuse because they failed to be "the big wheel."

    Edited:

    Being a white it's easy to say we are the whiniest sons of bitches to walk the planet.
    And I think it's partly because our culture almost encourages it at times.

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    "White Problems" like depression, anxiety, ADHD, etc etc etc.
    The term is "first world problems", the idea that emotions are a mental disorder applies to all races.

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    Being a white it's easy to say we are the whiniest sons of bitches to walk the planet.
    *cough, THE JEWS cough cough*

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  26. Post #26
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    In all honesty, I hope that the reasons for these statistics become a common source of argument, much like science, politics and religion.

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    According to a study done in 2002, Hispanics commit suicide less often than Asians, who commit suicide significantly less than White people.
    Except that one forest in Japan, or all those factory workers in China, where they built nets on the buildings to keep them from killing them selves.

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    Except that one forest in Japan, or all those factory workers in China, where they built nets on the buildings to keep them from killing them selves.
    This is just in the United States. You don't need to have any critical thinking skills to understand why those factory workers are attempting suicide.

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    It's because they can't dance, you know what I'm sayin? Too many nights getting overplayed by the dancing minorities and he gets depressed for not getting his honeybuns, knowm sayin'? When too much rejection + job stress and all that comes to play, crackaz just wanna pop, gnome sayin?

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    Craig Willmore's Avatar
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    they can't stand the burden of having the easiest life of any race

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    Probably a sense of entitlement that causes them to get pissy when things go badly.

    But you know, that's natural selection in action, as cold as that sounds.

    Also, with the world economy as shit as it is, (middle class) whites lost the most wealth, which can drive otherwise happy people to suicide when their decent standard of living gets obliterated by Wall Street's bad behavior.

  32. Post #32
    Lord_Ragnarok's Avatar
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    they can't stand the burden of having the easiest life of any race
    If it were a race that normally did poorly economically, this wouldn't be a discussion. The fact that it's the race that normally did the best economically that's committing suicide is what makes it interesting.

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    Dennab
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    Statistically, people with higher IQs are more likely to commit suicide than people with lower ones.
    Also statistically, white people have a higher IQ than most minorities.


    note that I'm not implying that white people are inherently smarter, it's an environmental thing.

  34. Post #34
    Lord_Ragnarok's Avatar
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    Statistically, people with higher IQs are more likely to commit suicide than people with lower ones.
    Also statistically, white people have a higher IQ than most minorities.


    note that I'm not implying that white people are inherently smarter, it's an environmental thing.
    Perhaps. White people tend to have more time, and people with a lot of time think deeply about certain things, which can lead to depression. Many philosophers, such as Otto Weininger have committed suicide.

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    Average white person does better then the average not white person so when a white person fails they look at other white people and see how well off they are so they think that they are so far off as losers and failure they kill themselves.

  36. Post #36
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    In my high school, whites were actually the minority.

    Indians and Asians took up more than half the 2000+ kids at my school.

    I was bullied for being white

  37. Post #37
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    1. first world problems

    2. There are, in fact, more white people than anyone else.

    3. As to the IQ thing, white people tend to have more educational opportunities and logistical largesse. Big surprise that an aggregate IQ score would reflect this.

    Edited:

    Also I believe hispanics are considered to be white when doing the statistics.
    Hasn't been the case for quite a while.

  38. Post #38
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    Dennab
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    1. first world problems

    2. There are, in fact, more white people than anyone else.

    3. As to the IQ thing, white people tend to have more educational opportunities and logistical largesse. Big surprise that an aggregate IQ score would reflect this.

    Edited:



    Hasn't been the case for quite a while.
    IQ is unrelated to education. it's capacity to learn, not knowledge.


    also "first world problems" are still problems

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    Does this rate take in that there are more white than any other race in the US?
    Yet blacks, who only take up 12-13% of the the US is said to commit the most crimes.

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    It seems that, in general, affluence is the strongest argument here as others have said.

    When a good portion of things are going well and have went well your entire life, it gives you more to focus on in the negative, whereas if you're struggling to survive, you learn to be happy with what you have. That, and the "You're not all you can be" argument. I'm under constant pressure to be the first person in my family to go to college and such.

    You may say "first world problems", but you can't really get mad at people for having those problems when they are the only problems a person has known.