Religion played a major role in Hitler's rise to power. He got many votes be mentioning this stuff.
also, the catholic church itself didn't support the holocaust. (their opposition could have been stronger though)
you also have to keep in mind that there was already a background of antisemitism in germany, that stretched far before hitler rose to power. his catholicism was really just to ensure he would be elected - it was nothing more than an appeal to the majority (a lot of modern politicians do the same thing anyway)
some reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6...on_with_Nazism
this is steering further and further from the topic anyway. the point is, antitheism is not the answer. it makes atheists look bad, causes unnecessary conflicts, brews spite, and it doesn't help anyone.
I wasn't being sarcastic.
Found this on the facebukes, my first sighting of religious related arguing in the real internet.
Aw shoot, now I'm vulnerable to the whole internets.
I'm really bad with the rectangle tool.
really am not josh
I don't mind Religion, I'm an Atheist. However I don't go around screaming there is no god, I respect other peoples Beliefs. However I will not tolerate you trying to shove your religion down my throat
And you saying "He flooded the Earth, one example of how God has intervened" makes so much sense, yeah..
And nobody argues from the point of view that it actually happened, if that is what you believe.
gosh darn automerge
So, what exactly people argue for, or against here?
The only thing I've tried to argue is that regardless of bibles and shit, God doesn't exist outside of our heads. Never will, never has.
But "God does work his wonders" from inside out, like in some wars for example where afterlife/God was used as encouragement for soldiers to keep on fighting.. you know?
No. What are you talking about.
Of course there's some probability that a general higher power/God exists.
But what i can assure you of is that none of the god's mentioned in any of the current existing ''holy'' scriptures exists.
How can we rightfully dismiss it, when all we have done is disproved something supernatural using natural methods?
Especially when the science we use itself is far from complete.
There is no point arguing over religion. One simply can not prove that a god does exist, but also can not prove that a god doesn't exist.
Ludwig Wittgenstein once said that "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.". People have hard time accepting that fact and have some strange need to try and prove other people wrong and themselves right.
Nobody is being too hard on religion, people are just being people.
It's like being in court, and five people are saying that John committed a crime. And that's it. There's no weapon, no victim, nothing.
Nobody here has either a high enough understanding in philosophy, science, or theology to argue this stuff. Not that it would matter anyways.