1. Post #41
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    I have no rational argument here. Only two words come to mind, and those are "stupid" and "fuck".

  2. Post #42
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    Should have been tagged as discrimination, not racism.

    Racism is an extremely washed out word today and it seems many do not know its meaning.
    no, it's racism.

    that whole "racism is only the belief that one race is inferior to others" dictionary definition is reductive and blatantly wrong

  3. Post #43
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    Should have been tagged as discrimination, not racism.

    Racism is an extremely washed out word today and it seems many do not know its meaning.
    Incidentally, you don't seem to know the meaning of the word discrimination.

  4. Post #44
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    no, it's racism.
    Can you please explain how "SAND MONKEY FUCK" can be interpreted as racist?

    that whole "racism is only the belief that one race is inferior to others" dictionary definition is reductive and blatantly wrong
    And why is that?

    Incidentally, you don't seem to know the meaning of the word discrimination.
    Please, enlighten me.

    Referring someone to as a "sand monkey" (whatever that may be) sounds pretty discriminating and insulting to me.

  5. Post #45
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    who cares about what is racist or not. did nobody see he smashed the woman in the face???
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  6. Post #46

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    He's just expressing his beliefs!

  7. Post #47
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    Hey look, it's the polar opposite of Carl Sagan.
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  8. Post #48
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    I've analyzed the video and have come to the conclusion that he is actually not wearing any shoes, no wonder he was so angered.

    Edited:

    Oh and holy crap that guy filmed account information let's find out what it's for.
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  9. Post #49
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    Allahu Akbar
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  10. Post #50
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    Can you please explain how "SAND MONKEY FUCK" can be interpreted as racist?
    "sand monkey" is a racial slur.

    And why is that?
    because racism is a lot more complex than merely "thinking that one race is inferior to others". Racism refers to a wide reaching set of possible attitudes and beliefs, one of which is the choices we make with our language when we discuss people. "sand monkey" is a racial slur against people of arab or middle eastern descent; therefore calling someone a "sand monkey" is racist.

    Referring someone to as a "sand monkey" (whatever that may be) sounds pretty discriminating and insulting to me.
    "Discrimination" refers to treating someone differently in a functional capacity, like when considering someone for a job position or when dealing with them in your daily life. A comment posted on an internet forum can be prejudiced, but unless the comment directly affects the life of the person who is being referred to, it's not discrimination.

    Edited:

    who cares about what is racist or not. did nobody see he smashed the woman in the face???
    racism is not an appropriate response to that.
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  11. Post #51
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    racism is not an appropriate response to that.
    Inappropriate debate for what is clearly a video of a man in a skirt smashing a woman in the face with a bag.

  12. Post #52
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    who cares about what is racist or not. did nobody see he smashed the woman in the face???
    Right in the face it was awesome, had to replay it like six times.

  13. Post #53
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    Inappropriate debate for what is clearly a video of a man in a skirt smashing a woman in the face with a bag.
    Don't see how him wearing a skirt is relevant, since there are plenty of cultures where it's perfectly acceptable, such as a dhoti or sarong.
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  14. Post #54
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    Inappropriate debate for what is clearly a video of a man in a skirt smashing a woman in the face with a bag.
    you seem to be implying that, if the circumstances are extreme enough, racism can become an appropriate response

  15. Post #55
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    YEAH! Fuck people who show their love for each other!

  16. Post #56
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    you seem to be implying that, if the circumstances are extreme enough, racism can become an appropriate response
    do you enjoy this type of discussion? I don't.

    Edited:

    Don't see how him wearing a skirt is relevant, since there are plenty of cultures where it's perfectly acceptable, such as a dhoti or sarong.
    I wouldn't call either of those a skirt though.

    This is a man with a shirt and a skirt on.

  17. Post #57
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    do you enjoy this type of discussion? I don't.
    then why are you participating in it?
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  18. Post #58
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    then why are you participating in it?
    do you think i'm inferior to this discussion because my avatar is a black man?
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  19. Post #59
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    Dennab
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    Jokes on him

    I know his wifi info.
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  20. Post #60
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    Quickly! Deliver porn to his house, and see if he minds!

  21. Post #61
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    Someone needs to put this dickwad in his place.

  22. Post #62
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    The guy filming is a huge pussy, even the other girl started shoving the arab after he hit her but the guy was just standing there saying ''you hit her''. Stupid ass..

  23. Post #63
    I wonder what would happen if he saw two guys making out...

    Edited:

    in front of a mosque
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  24. Post #64
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    I wonder what would happen if he saw two guys making out...

    Edited:

    in front of a mosque
    He'd tell Go Out
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  25. Post #65
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    do you think i'm inferior to this discussion because my avatar is a black man?
    what?
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  26. Post #66
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    It's a shame that people like these give arab culture a bad name. I'm sure plenty of people will be like
    "Damn Arabs!" now, even though really just some people take it to the extreme.

    However, this guy needs to learn this his belief is not everyone else's belief and that he can't force everyone else
    to follow his rules. He's not God, and if they will "go to hell" for their public intimacy, then why does he really care?

    I've never heard anything about religions teaching to attack people of other religions or beliefs, or anyone who does
    something not sanctioned by their religion. If your belief is true, then they will go to hell, fine, that doesn't affect you
    at all.

    Now you're just giving your belief a bad rep. Good work.

  27. Post #67
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    because racism is a lot more complex than merely "thinking that one race is inferior to others". Racism refers to a wide reaching set of possible attitudes and beliefs, one of which is the choices we make with our language when we discuss people. "sand monkey" is a racial slur against people of arab or middle eastern descent; therefore calling someone a "sand monkey" is racist.
    But in the bottom line, racists must make those choices because of devaluing. I believe "Racial slur" as you call it was invented to insult a person based on their origins, not to actually devalue their entire race.

    "Sand monkey" is by the way a laughable attempt of an insult and whoever interpreted it as offensive against his/her origins must have a really bad confidence in their heritage.

    I can't draw the connection between a "sand monkey" and an Arab other than that most Arabs live in countries with mostly sandy/desert areas. And I think most human beings know that we are related to primates. Therefore monkey can be applied to all ethnicities without being classified as racist. Unless you have a bad confidence in your heritage or ashamed of your origins, there's really no reason for you to interpret "sand monkey" as racist. An insult sure, but racist? Hardly. "Sand monkey" has nothing to do with the Arabian ethnicity, even in the way you look at racism. If I am correct it doesn't mean anything literally, but is commonly used as just as other insulting phrases.

    "Discrimination" refers to treating someone differently in a functional capacity, like when considering someone for a job position or when dealing with them in your daily life. A comment posted on an internet forum can be prejudiced, but unless the comment directly affects the life of the person who is being referred to, it's not discrimination.
    I can see your point and agree with that.

    However, this guy needs to learn this his belief is not everyone else's belief and that he can't force everyone else
    to follow his rules.
    I agree with this. However if being a tourist or even an immigrant in another country you should try and respect that nations custom, should they request it.
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  28. Post #68
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    And then he got off because it's apart of his religion and we need to learn to accept them for what they believe.

    I hope the police rough him up when they get him, I really do.

  29. Post #69
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    He probably just realised he couldn't pay for his bill and devised a clever scheme to avoid it by going on a religious rant.

    Religious people do it all the time. It's like how here in Australia, Aborigines can pretty much walk into a store, take what they want and leave. And if anyone tries to stop them, they scream on about the Dream Time and Kevin Rudd and racism and stuff until you just throw your hands up and go "Fuck it, you win, take it I don't care any more!".
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  30. Post #70
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    Dennab
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    I'm curious to see what country this was in..
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  31. Post #71
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    And then he got off because it's apart of his religion and we need to learn to accept them for what they believe.

    I hope the police rough him up when they get him, I really do.
    No, that would be undue force. Arrest him for assault.
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  32. Post #72
    I'd buy that for a dollar
    Dennab
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    Man, if I ever saw a someone treating a person like that I would kick their ass so quickly.
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  33. Post #73
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    I really don't know why everybody's getting so worked up about this.
    The guy is clearly a lunatic: he's wearing a skirt for crying out loud. He's merely using his religion as an excuse to tear somebody's shit up, as insane people do.
    He'll get arrested and put in a jail or a mental asylum where his bumhole will begin to resemble one of Saturn's rings, end of story.

    As much as I respect the sovereignty and cultures of different parts of the world, his saying "You are in muslim country, you will behave" and "don't tell go out" like he has more rights than the people under question just pisses me off.

    I really feel the entire world, all of Earth, MUST remain a neutral ground upon which people practice their culture. It MUST NOT be segregated into areas like Christian/Muslim countries. Dividing the world because of religion is a huge disgrace and disrespectful to Humanity as a whole.
    This. So much.
    Thanks, that was actually... beautiful.

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    I really feel the entire world, all of Earth, MUST remain a neutral ground upon which people practice their culture. It MUST NOT be segregated into areas like Christian/Muslim countries. Dividing the world because of religion is a huge disgrace and disrespectful to Humanity as a whole.
    You are underestimating Humanity. Remove religious divide and people will look for other things that makes them different from other people.

    Apologies. I'm being cynical.

  35. Post #75
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    I can understand that Malaysia don't want public displays of affection, but hostels are private property and that guy was way in the wrong.

  36. Post #76
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    a lot of stupid stereotyping going on in this thread.

    Edited:

    Also, there is a high chance that the crazy arab guy is an Iranian or Iraqian and is a Jafari Muslim, if you compare Jafari and Shafi'i, the difference is like night an day, the Jafari's are rough, brute and most Muslims will say they go against the laws of Islam. When they see someone doing wrong, its brute force straight away.
    mm i do love me some bigotry.

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  38. Post #78
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    But in the bottom line, racists must make those choices because of devaluing. I believe "Racial slur" as you call it was invented to insult a person based on their origins, not to actually devalue their entire race.
    THEY'RE THE SAME THING. insulting a person based on their race and devaluing their race are the same thing.


    I can't draw the connection between a "sand monkey" and an Arab other than that most Arabs live in countries with mostly sandy/desert areas. And I think most human beings know that we are related to primates. Therefore monkey can be applied to all ethnicities without being classified as racist.
    no, that's wrong. that's wrong because there is a very clear history of blacks being compared to monkeys by racists historically in america, especially within the realm of "scientific racism" which more or less operated on the belief that blacks were less evolved than whites and therefore more closely related to other primates.



    and the ties between the term "sand monkey" and the somewhat common racial slur "sand nigger" are fucking obvious. you were obviously completely oblivious to all of this; so please don't go making proclamations about what can and can't be called racist

    Unless you have a bad confidence in your heritage or ashamed of your origins, there's really no reason for you to interpret "sand monkey" as racist. An insult sure, but racist? Hardly. "Sand monkey" has nothing to do with the Arabian ethnicity, even in the way you look at racism. If I am correct it doesn't mean anything literally, but is commonly used as just as other insulting phrases.
    no, it's an insulting phrase against arabs specifically, therefore it's a racial slur.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...=sand%20monkey

    it's a term specifically directed towards arabs and middle easterners

    just because you've never heard the term doesn't necessarily mean it's just been made up, it's an established racial slur
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  39. Post #79
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    If I was there, I would have made fine use of that fire extinguisher on the wall.
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  40. Post #80
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    automerge