1. Post #1
    endorphinsam's Avatar
    January 2010
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    NOTE: The Temporary Set up is what I'm going to buy Now. the Final Set up is going to be the stuff I replace with better stuff after a few months, I'll link to every part so you could further inspect them.

    I've been saving up alot of money, a few hundred every month, now I can finally buy my dream computer. Before I buy all of the parts I would like to know if it is a big waste of time and all the parts are incompatible, because I'm computer illiterate and a friend was guiding me, even though I trust him, I want a second opinion from you guys. So I'll post my soon to be specs here:

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    TEMPORARY SET UP:

    Case: Fractal Design Black Pearl $149.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811352017

    RAM: 16GB DDR3 RAM $98.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233198

    CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K $224.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072

    CPU Cooler: Noctua CPU Cooler $89.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608018

    Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 7970 $559.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131452

    CD Drive #1: Asus Blu-Ray Player $67.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135247

    CD Drive #2: Asus Standard DVD Burner/Player $20.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204

    Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue Internal Hard Drive $109.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136769

    Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Intel Motherboard $289.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157269

    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified $279.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817207019
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    Price So Far with Temporary Set Up: $1,892.9

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    FINAL SET UP:

    Replace Temporary Hard Drive with Final Hard Drive: Three SATA SSDs $2,399.97
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147136

    Replace Temporary Monitor with Final Monitor: ASUS 1080p HDMI Monitor 199.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=ASUS%20VH238H
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    Price with Final Set Up: 4,492.86

    Price with Final Set Up without the fucking SSDs: $2,092.89


    Do you think I'll be okay with all these parts or am I living a dream?
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  2. Post #2
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    February 2009
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    Don't get an Antec 1200. Antec cases look cool at the beginning but they really lack in features compared to other cases, especially regarding cable management.

    If you want a dream build, get a friggin Cooler Master Cosmos II. It's a work of art for gods sake. If you wanna spend a bit less the Cooler Master Storm Trooper is a better alternative to the 1200. But for a $6700 PC I think a Cosmos II should really be in there.

    I would get a Noctua NH-D14 for the CPU cooler. It's sort of the standard for high end air cooling.

    And I mean. I consider the SSDs and the RAM amount really over the top but if it's a money is no object situation then go for it. I would like to mention that Nvidia Kepler and Intel Ivy Bridge are coming out in two months, and I REAALLY think that if you're going to spend $7000 on a computer you should wait for them to have the best of the best.

  3. Post #3
    endorphinsam's Avatar
    January 2010
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    Don't get an Antec 1200. Antec cases look cool at the beginning but they really lack in features compared to other cases, especially regarding cable management.

    If you want a dream build, get a friggin Cooler Master Cosmos II. It's a work of art for gods sake. If you wanna spend a bit less the Cooler Master Storm Trooper is a better alternative to the 1200. But for a $6700 PC I think a Cosmos II should really be in there.

    I would get a Noctua NH-D14 for the CPU cooler. It's sort of the standard for high end air cooling.

    And I mean. I consider the SSDs and the RAM amount really over the top but if it's a money is no object situation then go for it. I would like to mention that Nvidia Kepler and Intel Ivy Bridge are coming out in two months, and I REAALLY think that if you're going to spend $7000 on a computer you should wait for them to have the best of the best.
    Okay, The Case you told me about is most definitely better, but I was sort of thinking Antec because of how many fans it had, but mainly because it has a fucking see through window so I can show it off to all dem muhafuckaz dat got dem shetty pee sees. ya knuh wha i sayin dawg? Anyways, I'll be looking for something similar to that except with a see-through side so I can peak inside whenever. Thanks, and I updated my wishlist to the CPU Cooler Fan you recommended, It's probably going to be much quieter than the one I chose before. I'm also glad my specs aren't incompatible and I got it on the first try. Thanks

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    February 2009
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    You're seriously not going to get the Cosmos II because it doesn't have a window? Uh ok then. I think your best bet is the Corsair 800D but I really think that it would be a mistake not to get it because of some window.

  5. Post #5
    endorphinsam's Avatar
    January 2010
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    You're seriously not going to get the Cosmos II because it doesn't have a window? Uh ok then. I think your best bet is the Corsair 800D but I really think that it would be a mistake not to get it because of some window.
    ALRIGHT, I'll get the case you want. Actually if I have some money laying around I'll get both of them and see if any of them are better. Thanks :p

  6. Post #6
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    February 2009
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    ALRIGHT, I'll get the case you want. Actually if I have some money laying around I'll get both of them and see if any of them are better. Thanks :p
    Hey it's not my build, get what you want. I just think that features like the hot swappable HDD bays would couple well with your SSDs. And the front fan control feature is great too. Anyway good luck with your build, it looks good and it should drive those 3 1080p panels really well in games.

  7. Post #7
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    January 2012
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    Paying too much

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  8. Post #8
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    March 2010
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    Why the fuck would you get two blu ray players/burners? You probably wouldn't even use one, what the fuck do you do with TWO of those?
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    February 2009
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    Why the fuck would you get two blu ray players/burners? You probably wouldn't even use one, what the fuck do you do with TWO of those?
    Because he can! If I had the money he has, I would buy two Blu-Ray drives just so I could rip two disks at a time from my library, even if I never used the second drive again after that.

  10. Post #10
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    March 2010
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    Because he can! If I had the money he has, I would buy two Blu-Ray drives just so I could rip two disks at a time from my library, even if I never used the second drive again after that.
    But why? Just because you have the money, doesn't mean you should waste it. If he would use it a lot, then go ahead, but he probably won't.
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    January 2010
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    But why? Just because you have the money, doesn't mean you should waste it. If he would use it a lot, then go ahead, but he probably won't.
    While I do agree with you to the most part, but I have about 40-50 Blu-Ray discs and I'm one of those people that's like "OOH, I WANNA WATCH THE DARK KNIGHT BLU RAY. But I don't want to get up and walk all... the... way over to the couch... and turn on the TV... and then turn on my PS3.... then log in... then move through the whole XMB screen till I hit the movies category.. then open the disc and put it into the tray... and then close it... and then press X..... and then wait for it to load.... and then press X again to hit play", When I can easily put it into my PC and watch it while I'm doing other stuff too.

    I know it's so stupid to give you that reason, but I have alot of money saved up and I'd like to have a PC that will work and not be obsolete until five years from now. Who knows, maybe the whole Blu-Ray thing will kick off and become a standard. I can be a person that says "HAHAH! I HAD THOSE BEFORE THEY WERE STANDARDS IN PC BUILDS!". Same with the 32GB of RAM. It sounds like its insane now, but in 6-7 years it will be a "low end computer".

    ADHD version: I want two of the Blu-Ray slots just because I might need them. Oh and I have enough money saved up (after... many... many months of saving) to buy it all. and as I said in the OP, I wanted a dream computer. I'm probably going to replace the CPU with the new Intel Ivy Bridge thing and as well replace the Motherboard when they both come out as well.

    Thanks for the advice, though.
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  12. Post #12
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    Why buy Sandy Bridge now just to replace it with a new CPU and motherboard in two months?
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  13. Post #13
    PLAY IT LOUD!!!
    K3inMitl3id's Avatar
    February 2010
    2,875 Posts
    Buy a decent computer, spend the rest on games, not a computer that will last until 2020.

    THINK before you make what seems to be an impulsive decision.
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  14. Post #14
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    If I had that money i'd buy a Vaio Z and an i5k/560ti build.

    As someone said somewhere, "The best way of future proofing is having money in the bank."
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  15. Post #15
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    January 2010
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    Why buy Sandy Bridge now just to replace it with a new CPU and motherboard in two months?
    Because I don't want to wait two months, I'll put the old parts that I replace into another computer, trust me they wont go to waste.

  16. Post #16
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    August 2011
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    brotip, if you want your rig to last long, then don't blow 7000 bucks right away. You're spending retarded amounts of money on, as you said earlier, components that will be outperformed by far within the span of a few years. One of those gpus will alone run all of the games more then enough, and once it stops managing that, you will have more then enough money to spend it on a gpu that most certainly will outperform it by far. Sure, buy a pricey but great case and cooler, but why two of those 7970ies, why that retardedly overpriced powersupply, an i7 that you'd most likely wont need in comparison to an i5 2500k? Save your money, upgrade once its actually needed, and you will have the opportunity to have a build that lasts for so much longer then what you got now.

  17. Post #17
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    April 2009
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    Why are you on socket 1155, at this kind of pricepoint go with 2011.

  18. Post #18
    endorphinsam's Avatar
    January 2010
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    Why are you on socket 1155, at this kind of pricepoint go with 2011.
    I think I stated before in the OP that I'm computer illiterate and going by what my friend told me, so forgive me, but what the fuck is a socket 1155?

  19. Post #19

    January 2012
    429 Posts
    I think I stated before in the OP that I'm computer illiterate and going by what my friend told me, so forgive me, but what the fuck is a socket 1155?
    Socket 1155 is the normal cpus. 2011 is enthusist. Max 1155 has 4 cores, 2011 has 6.

    Edited:

    Look dude, this is overkill. You will see no real life performance boost at all. get 2500k, and a gtx 580, maybe 2 and it will perform better than 95% of any other computers. You will not use 6 cores, the 7970's arn't hugely better. You do not want performace, you want price AND performace. The several thousand dollars you will save are worth it. Also, your all a bunch of stupid arses, two 590's beat two 7970's anyway and is cheaper. In games a 2500k, is also better, no game uses 6 cores, none. 32gb's of ram is useless, 8 is overkill, 16 is future proof, and ram speeds never matter.

    Edited:

    Infact, if your that crazy go
    http://originpc.com/
    there and knock yourself out.
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  20. Post #20
    erfinjerfin's Avatar
    March 2010
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    What exactly are you planning on using this computer for? Like several others have said, the i5 2500k is the best gaming CPU on the market right now and there's no reason to get anything more expensive. If you're planning on doing a lot of video editing, though, the 2700k's hyperthreading might be worth the extra money. Up to you.

  21. Post #21

    April 2011
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    Why do people always do such overspecced builds?

    Sure get the Cosmos II, NH-D14 and a Blu ray drive, but the rest of that stuff will get killed in a few years by newer and better hardware.

  22. Post #22

    January 2012
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    Why do people always do such overspecced builds?

    Sure get the Cosmos II, NH-D14 and a Blu ray drive, but the rest of that stuff will get killed in a few years by newer and better hardware.
    He wants to go nuts, let him go nuts.
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  23. Post #23
    endorphinsam's Avatar
    January 2010
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    He wants to go nuts, let him go nuts.
    Thank you, someone that finally understands :D

  24. Post #24

    April 2011
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    Thank you, someone that finally understands :D
    Except in about 4 years I'll be able to make a better build than your build for about 1/2 the price. You are genuinely better off getting a 580 and a 2600K. Those WILL max every game going. You could record with those too if you get some decent HDD's.

    I'm just trying to stop you from wasting several grand and feeling like a complete plonker a few years down the road. That's all any of us have been trying to do.

  25. Post #25
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    May 2010
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    I would recommend spending less, but hey, you money. If you want to feel an idiot in a few years go for it.

  26. Post #26
    endorphinsam's Avatar
    January 2010
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    Okay okay okay, I'm spending a lot less now. I updated the OP, look.

    the usual amount of money I get every month declined, quite, quite, quite alot so I'm now on an actual budget. Take a looksies.

  27. Post #27
    erfinjerfin's Avatar
    March 2010
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    Get a Corsair 600T over the Antec 1200

  28. Post #28
    endorphinsam's Avatar
    January 2010
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    Get a Corsair 600T over the Antec 1200
    I'm not computer literate, what's the difference between the two?

  29. Post #29
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    November 2010
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    At the price of the 600T he might as well get the 650D

  30. Post #30

    April 2011
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    Right, get a 2500K rather than a 2700K. Get 8GB of RAM rather than 16GB. Also replace that PSU with a TX750M V2 or the like, as that TT thing is hugely overpriced.
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    February 2009
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    Right, get a 2500K rather than a 2700K. Get 8GB of RAM rather than 16GB. Also replace that PSU with a TX750M V2 or the like, as that TT thing is hugely overpriced.
    I like how you call his chosen PSU overpriced and then proceed to recommend a Corsair PSU which are all generally overpriced compared to ones from Antec, Seasonic, XFX etc. What are you doing?
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  32. Post #32
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    November 2009
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    Look, OP.

    I've built many computers for people who wanted to "go crazy", all the way up to $2600 builts, and all of the computers grew old and slow and eventually the owners regret using so much money when they could've upgraded later on.

    Now, I recommend you make a big fat RAID full of fast drives (Google) such as the Spinpoint F3's, just 1TB drives, get like 4 of them.
    RAID5 them giving you 3TB of fast storage, oh and an i5-2500k and all the usual medi-core stuff, and then enjoy an average fps of 50 on the highest settings available instead of playing jesus by being a special snowflake, and spent the saved money on some nice android tablet.

    I recommend the new NOVO7 Elf with Android 4.0 or whatever the newest version is.

  33. Post #33
    endorphinsam's Avatar
    January 2010
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    Look, OP.

    I've built many computers for people who wanted to "go crazy", all the way up to $2600 builts, and all of the computers grew old and slow and eventually the owners regret using so much money when they could've upgraded later on.

    Now, I recommend you make a big fat RAID full of fast drives (Google) such as the Spinpoint F3's, just 1TB drives, get like 4 of them.
    RAID5 them giving you 3TB of fast storage, oh and an i5-2500k and all the usual medi-core stuff, and then enjoy an average fps of 50 on the highest settings available instead of playing jesus by being a special snowflake, and spent the saved money on some nice android tablet.

    I recommend the new NOVO7 Elf with Android 4.0 or whatever the newest version is.
    I don't understand what the deal is with Smartphones. PHONES are supposed to CALL people. Thats why they call them PHONES. Your not supposed to play video games on them watch youtube videos on them, all that stuff. If anything I'll go buy a PSVita

    before I get banned (?) by going off topic, if I get a PC with an i5 instead of an i9, no matter what you say, the i5 will become obsolete faster. My whole point of getting a computer this insane is so I dont have to fucking update every six months, I want something that will last me a couple of years, more if I'm lucky.

    And I'm pretty sure the main reason for things getting slow is the Hard Drive getting fucked up by tons of porno files or some shit, and I don't really do anything but play Minecraft and play Steam games.

  34. Post #34
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    February 2008
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    It's clear you don't know what you're talking about. Let me break it up for you and tell you what everyone told you again:
    before I get banned (?) by going off topic, if I get a PC with an i5 instead of an i9, no matter what you say, the i5 will become obsolete faster. My whole point of getting a computer this insane is so I dont have to fucking update every six months, I want something that will last me a couple of years, more if I'm lucky.
    An i5 is no different from an i7 in terms of raw gaming performance. All you're paying for is 4 extra threads and hyper-threading technology. From what I'll assume I don't think there's anything you do that would even need those extras. You're better off sticking with the i5 and spending the extra money elsewhere.

    You'll save much more money maintaining and upgrading your computer in the future while gaining new features as opposed to spending an unnecessary massive fortune at the start. Making the most expensive computer build doesn't equate to it lasting any longer than a build of more than a fraction of the price. All current technology will eventually be outdated by the newer technology. As it is a well thought out build of today's technology that doesn't cost a fortune will last you more than a few years depending on your needs.
    And I'm pretty sure the main reason for things getting slow is the Hard Drive getting fucked up by tons of porno files or some shit, and I don't really do anything but play Minecraft and play Steam games.
    There lots of ways different ways a computer can "slow down". If you're talking about slow system responsiveness and long boot up times times then an SSD will practically eliminate that issue completely. An HDD on the other hand will be much slower in comparison and the amount of fragmentation can affect performance.

    Do you actually need everything you're putting into this build? You can spend as much money as you want, but in the end you will regret this decision quickly. This is our warning.

  35. Post #35
    endorphinsam's Avatar
    January 2010
    4,029 Posts
    It's clear you don't know what you're talking about. Let me break it up for you and tell you what everyone told you again:


    An i5 is no different from an i7 in terms of raw gaming performance. All you're paying for is 4 extra threads and hyper-threading technology. From what I'll assume I don't think there's anything you do that would even need those extras. You're better off sticking with the i5 and spending the extra money elsewhere.

    You'll save much more money maintaining and upgrading your computer in the future while gaining new features as opposed to spending an unnecessary massive fortune at the start. Making the most expensive computer build doesn't equate to it lasting any longer than a build of more than a fraction of the price. All current technology will eventually be outdated by the newer technology. As it is a well thought out build of today's technology that doesn't cost a fortune will last you more than a few years depending on your needs.


    There lots of ways different ways a computer can "slow down". If you're talking about slow system responsiveness and long boot up times times then an SSD will practically eliminate that issue completely. An HDD on the other hand will be much slower in comparison and the amount of fragmentation can affect performance.

    Do you actually need everything you're putting into this build? You can spend as much money as you want, but in the end you will regret this decision quickly. This is our warning.
    I don't think your kind of understanding me, an i5 is different from an i7 being that the i7 apparently has more threads. So your mistaken there, and try reading what I said before, I'm future proofing. What if a game I really want to play comes out and it uses all threads, and I don't have an i7? I can't play it. As in, i5 will become obsolete before i7 will. THATS WHY I'M GETTING i7! No matter what you say, I'm still going to get it, because it makes sense to me, because I want a PC that wont die off until (if my friend is right) 5-6 years.

    Edited:

    Also, why in the fuck would Intel make an i7 if it wasn't needed yet? And why would they make a new one thats about to come out, it's called IVY BRIDGE. So, its sort of like "get the latest in technology because it's the best" No matter how small the differences are, i7 is still better than i5, and no matter how small the differences are, i5 will become obsolete before i7 will.
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    January 2012
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    I don't think your kind of understanding me, an i5 is different from an i9 being that the i9 apparently has more threads. So your mistaken there, and try reading what I said before, I'm future proofing. What if a game I really want to play comes out and it uses all threads, and I don't have an i9? I can't play it. As in, i5 will become obsolete before i9 will. THATS WHY I'M GETTING i9! No matter what you say, I'm still going to get it, because it makes sense to me, because I want a PC that wont die off until (if my friend is right) 5-6 years.

    Edited:

    Also, why in the fuck would Intel make an i9 if it wasn't needed yet? And why would they make a new one thats about to come out, it's called IVY BRIDGE. So, its sort of like "get the latest in technology because it's the best" No matter how small the differences are, i9 is still better than i5, and no matter how small the differences are, i5 will become obsolete before i9 will.

    Dude, a 2500k will not become outdated fast enough for it to matter.

    Its an i7 not an i9 and next gen tech mid level tech beats the highest level last gen tech, welcome to the tech world.
    Unless you are video rendering an 2500k will last about 5 years.

  37. Post #37
    erfinjerfin's Avatar
    March 2010
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    because I want a PC that wont die off until (if my friend is right) 5-6 years.
    your friend is an idiot

  38. Post #38
    shatteredwindow's Avatar
    March 2010
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    You want to spend all this money to future proof it, but it would be way more efficient to spend half the money or less and save the rest to updating down the line. You'll get a longer life if you just replace parts as you need them. Right now you're getting something that you won't need half of. Spending 4k initially is going to last longer than spending 2k initially, but over the long run, spreading it out is going to last longer. Even 2 grand is overkill. You won't need to upgrade every 6 months.

  39. Post #39
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    November 2009
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    Guys, I simply think that the OP doesn't understand what hyper-threading is. Hyper-treading isn't just "Yay, four extra without really increasing the die area!" - that's not what happens. HT can help with a few different, incredibly CPU heavy tasks, but generally you won't see more than a 10% performance gain in programs that actually utilize it. There's not many of those out there - and practically no games take advantage of it. You might say "Well, its pretty new technology, and if developers adopts it everything will run much faster!", but that's not true. HT has been around since the P4, and games developers have yet to do something about it. In 2-3 years, you'll see CPUs performing maybe 2 times as fast as the one you're buying, and probably and the same cost. The GPU will be outdated this year, and in two years, it'll really be nothing but a card that was pretty nice at the time. Just look at the 5870, 4890 or whatever.

  40. Post #40
    endorphinsam's Avatar
    January 2010
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    You want to spend all this money to future proof it, but it would be way more efficient to spend half the money or less and save the rest to updating down the line. You'll get a longer life if you just replace parts as you need them. Right now you're getting something that you won't need half of. Spending 4k initially is going to last longer than spending 2k initially, but over the long run, spreading it out is going to last longer. Even 2 grand is overkill. You won't need to upgrade every 6 months.
    I see what your trying to say, but that's what I don't want to have happen. Anyways, I checked the price on the i5 and the price is only 100 bucks less, on newegg. So I don't see a real reason, it won't save me all that much money, so I'll be going with i7, no matter what you dudes say. also sorry for confusing i7 with i9 :P I'm not computer literate. I'm gonna get the i7, mainly because its just like 110 bucks more, which I think isn't that much.

    Is there anything else I shouldn't get and get something cheaper?
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