[Tokagero]

Jon-Ace posted:

Thinking of specializing in pushing, who's a good pusher for a newbie?

I've played with Pudge and Venomacer so far.

Pusher ? Furion, aka Nature's Prophet.

Just remember to meet the quota.

[Maruhai]

Jon-Ace posted:

Thinking of specializing in pushing, who's a good pusher for a newbie?

I've played with Pudge and Venomacer so far.

Venomancer is a very easy Support/Pusher, you will also like Sven, who can help pushes with his Warcry, as well as being useful with his two seconds stun.

[Lone Wolf807]

How do you guys forget about death prophet.

[Maruhai]

Lone Wolf807 posted:

How do you guys forget about death prophet.

Because she is not easy.

[testinglol]

im using jariko :( dunno if its good or bad. it was my first hero.

[Maruhai]

testinglol posted:

im using jariko :( dunno if its good or bad. it was my first hero.

He's a cool dude as long as you can land good Ice blasts.

[testinglol]

Maruhai posted:

He's a cool dude as long as you can land good Ice blasts.

I'm doing that lava thing, ice thing, ice and fire breath thing and they usually die.

[Edvinas]

Jakiro is very fun if you have enigma on your team.

[Tokagero]

Edvinas posted:

Jakiro is very fun if you have enigma on your team.

You know what's funny ?

Void + Sand King

Sand King ult works in void's sphere if you get in here after channel. Cast + blink = you are stuck in funny position with your tail waving and killing everyone.

[titopei]

I had a dream where all the heroes were in the test build. I start up a game, click Abaddon and then I wake up.

[Gate]

Tokagero posted:

You know what's funny ?

Void + Sand King

Sand King ult works in void's sphere if you get in here after channel. Cast + blink = you are stuck in funny position with your tail waving and killing everyone.

void + jakiro + pubs +different teams


also, pudge with rot

[Tokagero]

Gate posted:

void + jakiro + pubs +different teams


also, pudge with rot

Also, Pudge with Rot and Doomed.

"off, TURN IT OFF, aaahhh!!!!"

[Badunkadunk]

I remember a void froze his entire team at their tower while I had my edict and ult activated as leshrac, they were so mad. He did it just to kill one guy on our team.

[WTF Nuke]

Should furion jungle?

[Tokagero]

WTF Nuke posted:

Should furion jungle?

Can. And very well at that.

But he is decent sololaner and solomid, as there he won't spend as much mana and can always TP + Sprout if something good happens on other lanes. In Jungle he relies on treants which cost mana. Still, his ult (don't cast it every CD, just to counter-push or push, or in teamfight far away from it so last bounces hit heroes) and farming potential due to teleport and minions is so insane, he will be jungling or laning until about 10 minutes.

After that, he will be everywhere.

Though in pubs people like to see him jungle, to free up lane for more XP.

[pvt.meh]

Yes.

[Saint Jimmy]

Smashman can't carry. don't tell him I said that...

[The Mighty Boat]

WTF Nuke posted:

Should furion jungle?

hes better in mid than in the jungle

[WTF Nuke]

I just tried jungle furion with bots and I got 190 cs in 32 minutes, did I meet quota?

Edited:

Also, this furion guide (highest rated) http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-fury-is-on states that you should build dagon on solo furion. You guys always say that dagon is a bad item. Is this an exception? Or is upgrading dagon a bad idea rather than dagon being a bad item?

[Tokagero]

WTF Nuke posted:

I just tried jungle furion with bots and I got 190 cs in 32 minutes, did I meet quota?

Edited:

Also, this furion guide (highest rated) http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-fury-is-on states that you should build dagon on solo furion. You guys always say that dagon is a bad item. Is this an exception? Or is upgrading dagon a bad idea rather than dagon being a bad item?

1. Can anyone fetch this guy "Quota" comics so he understand the concept ? I can't seem to find them.

2. Dagon isn't a bad item. Its extremely expensive for what it offers, too expensive in opinion of many people. Furion can earn insane amounts of cash. Now, imagine a hero with powerful nuke, that can teleport anywhere he scouted on the map, and he can scout the map with summoned units he gets in bunches.

Ye, that's why they get dagon. And carry items.

[WTF Nuke]

Oh ok, I'm just new to dota so I'm following what I read from you guys + guides and vids. Thanks for the info.

[Gate]

Tokagero posted:

1. Can anyone fetch this guy "Quota" comics so he understand the concept ? I can't seem to find them.

http://i.imgur.com/c0TRw.jpg

[Kendra]

Tokagero posted:

Let me show you image from enemy team minds after that game :

Let me tell you a bit about that game:

Profit buys Rapier, we do some stuff, we all get killed except him, he ports randomly to backdoor, walks back to our base, gets caught by Rattletrap, dies, he buys back, ports to Rattletrap, he dies, Profit picks up, Mirana kills him, gets Rapier, Invoker kills Mirana, gets rapier. HE BUYS ANOTHER RAPIER.

We push bot lane, Invoker dies, our hearts stop. Pudge and Miranda each pick one up, they die.
We win the game.

RAPIERS MAKE GAMES SO MUCH FUN

Edited:

WTF Nuke posted:

I just tried jungle furion with bots and I got 190 cs in 32 minutes, did I meet quota?

Edited:

Also, this furion guide (highest rated) http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-fury-is-on states that you should build dagon on solo furion. You guys always say that dagon is a bad item. Is this an exception? Or is upgrading dagon a bad idea rather than dagon being a bad item?

Most playdota builds are outdated as fuck.

[The Mighty Boat]

WTF Nuke posted:

I just tried jungle furion with bots and I got 190 cs in 32 minutes, did I meet quota?

Edited:

Also, this furion guide (highest rated) http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-fury-is-on states that you should build dagon on solo furion. You guys always say that dagon is a bad item. Is this an exception? Or is upgrading dagon a bad idea rather than dagon being a bad item?

its a very situational item and when u could be using that gold to fortify EHP, increase damage etc its all basically going down the drain

Edited:

Kendra posted:

Let me tell you a bit about that game:

Profit buys Rapier, we do some stuff, we all get killed except him, he ports randomly to backdoor, walks back to our base, gets caught by Rattletrap, dies, he buys back, ports to Rattletrap, he dies, Profit picks up, Mirana kills him, gets Rapier, Invoker kills Mirana, gets rapier. HE BUYS ANOTHER RAPIER.

We push bot lane, Invoker dies, our hearts stop. Pudge and Miranda each pick one up, they die.
We win the game.

RAPIERS MAKE GAMES SO MUCH FUN

Edited:



Most playdota builds are outdated as fuck.

most of the pertinent information is still up to date

[Doughnuts]

Kendra posted:

Most playdota builds are outdated as fuck.

No they aren't most of them get regularly updated as dota is updated and the dota updates port to dota 2 so they are very up to date

[Maruhai]

I saw a mid Furion the other day, he got the first three kills of the game.

[Gabe Newell]

Maruhai posted:

I saw a mid Furion the other day, he got the first three kills of the game.

thanks for sharing

[Smashman]

Saint Jimmy posted:

Smashman can't carry. don't tell him I said that...

Well at least I can play Lich!

[Str4t0s]

Kendra posted:

Let me tell you a bit about that game:

Profit buys Rapier, we do some stuff, we all get killed except him, he ports randomly to backdoor, walks back to our base, gets caught by Rattletrap, dies, he buys back, ports to Rattletrap, he dies, Profit picks up, Mirana kills him, gets Rapier, Invoker kills Mirana, gets rapier. HE BUYS ANOTHER RAPIER.

We push bot lane, Invoker dies, our hearts stop. Pudge and Miranda each pick one up, they die.
We win the game.

RAPIERS MAKE GAMES SO MUCH FUN

Edited:



Most playdota builds are outdated as fuck.

Match ID please.

[Zukriuchen]

Maruhai posted:

I saw a mid Furion the other day, he got the first three kills of the game.

I went bot Earthshaker the other day, I got the first three deaths of the game

[Badunkadunk]

Zukriuchen posted:

I went bot Earthshaker the other day, I got the first three deaths of the game

thanks for sharing

[Smashman]

Str4t0s posted:

Match ID please.

10090726

[Maruhai]

Smashman posted:

10090726

Even on Facepunch you post other's people content without crediting !

[Rats808]

Welp. Done with solo queueing for a while. Maybe even duo queueing.

Past 7 games now, my teams have been either stupid or just plain bad, and even if I were to pull off pro-level plays, we would end up losing.

[Saint Jimmy]

Smashman posted:

Well at least I can play Lich!

You were like 2 7 3 as Lifestealer and I was 1 7 3 as Lich. You have 1000+ hrs, I have 15.

[Banhfunbags]

Bane and Faceless Void's faces look the same

[Smashman]

Saint Jimmy posted:

You were like 2 7 3 as Lifestealer and I was 1 7 3 as Lich. You have 1000+ hrs, I have 15.

Being a carry is not a solo job.
Your Supports and gankers need to help.
Carries are terrible early game.

Edited:

Maruhai posted:

Even on Facepunch you post other's people content without crediting !

I was in the match.

[Oicani Gonzales]

Showed my Dota-addict cousin some Dota 2. He cried.

[Gabe Newell]

Smashman posted:

Carries are terrible early game.

you cannot convince pubs this

they think carries carry the team the whole match

actually, the team carries the carry early game.

[The Mighty Boat]

every time someone buys dust to counter weaver i laugh. even if he couldnt just ult it off he still moves at max MS