1. Post #1
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    [release]





    Yes, Steam And Source Engine Coming To Linux





    Source[/release]



    Is Microsoft Driving Valve and Steam to Strengthen Linux as a Gaming Platform?

    Gabe:
    "1. L4D2 runs multithreaded at 250 – 300 fps on my Windows 7 machine. Single threaded it’s ~180 fps. On Linux it runs at 25 – 30 fps with the same NVidia GTX 580 video card (after getting them to fix some things), and around the same on a ATI 6970.
    2. Good tools to track down OpenGL performance and help debug rendering issues just don’t exist.
    We want to fix this. It would be nice to have people who have experience with Linux work on it."





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  2. Post #2
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    June 2010
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    Another reason to love Gaben and Valve. I simply can't wait to stop using wine altogether on my system!
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    December 2006
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    When steam and source comes to linux, i will stop using windows
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  4. Post #4
    acidcj's Avatar
    March 2010
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    Games are one of the few reasons I still primarily use Windows, I can't wait for Steam on Linux
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  5. Post #5
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    December 2006
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    Wait no, i still need windows for fucking office documents and shit :(

    Edited:

    My automerge D:
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  6. Post #6
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    May 2010
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    Wait no, i still need windows for fucking office documents and shit :(

    Edited:

    My automerge D:
    In my school, we use mainly office products, and my Laptop runs on linux.
    Libre office + Google docs make a great alternative to Microsoft office products.

    I never had a problem once.


    or you could just create a VM with windows on it.
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  7. Post #7
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    Wait no, i still need windows for fucking office documents and shit :(

    Edited:

    My automerge D:
    I think at that point I'll dual boot.
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  8. Post #8
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    August 2009
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    Yeah, I'm gonna remain skeptical, until there's a bunch of files from Valve that I can mess with myself.

  9. Post #9

    January 2012
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    Haha. This is going to be fun, if anyone thinks that Linux drivers and Xorg are even halfway capable of running a modern commercial game reliably and consistently, they are hilariously mistaken.

    Basically expect sizable delays between windows and Linux releases and expect things that are supposed to work to flat out fail. Some people have trouble getting HIB games to work right without a lot of command-line foolery.
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  10. Post #10
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    July 2007
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    Cool. Where's the evidence that Steam is coming? Or the source engine? Or anything besides them testing if it's viable?
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  11. Post #11
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    January 2007
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    Haha. This is going to be fun, if anyone thinks that Linux drivers and Xorg are even halfway capable of running a modern commercial game reliably and consistently, they are hilariously mistaken.

    Basically expect sizable delays between windows and Linux releases and expect things that are supposed to work to flat out fail. Some people have trouble getting HIB games to work right without a lot of command-line foolery.
    I've been using linux as a main OS, for around 6 months since windows broke. I'll be the judge of that statement, and frankly, if something can run a wine game well, it'd work better on native linux.
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    Awesome, I've been getting sick of windows for a long time now, and it's only the fact I can't play games and control my fan speed on Linux that I haven't switched, this will definitely motivate me to try to figure out lm-sensors again in the future.

  13. Post #13
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    June 2010
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    Some people have trouble getting HIB games to work right without a lot of command-line foolery.
    I found lots of the hib games were bad ports. One wasn't even ported and ran through mono. (Spacechem)
    I particularly have no trouble playing Doom 3, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., and valve games on linux which they all are pretty modern. Doom 3 actually has a pretty good linux port too.
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  14. Post #14
    Tucan Sam's Avatar
    May 2007
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    Why on earth would you want Steam on linux?
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    April 2012
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    idk to play games or some shit?
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  16. Post #16
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    Tucan Sam posted:
    Why on earth would you want Steam on linux?
    Vaporless chat. ;)
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  17. Post #17
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    Why on earth would you want Steam on linux?
    Why would you ask that?
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  18. Post #18
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    January 2010
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    Why on earth would you want Steam on linux?
    TF2 on Linux.
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  19. Post #19
    Tucan Sam's Avatar
    May 2007
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    idk to play games or some shit?
    Steam =! games. Steam is the client, the games will still need linux support
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    So now that Wine is working great and it even magically allows use of window manager commands in fullscreen X windows with full input grabs (Like alt+tabbing out of a frozen game or changing the system volume without having to close the game) they start thinking about a Linux port.
    Gah, if this ever happens I'll just keep running Steam in Wine if only for not being stuck to a game having to resort to Control+Alt+F1 when it freezes.

  21. Post #21
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    Again, what Steam port?
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    Aaand now I need to change my pants.
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  23. Post #23
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    Again, what Steam port?
    Dude... Left 4 Dead 2 is being ported to Linux, as stated in the Email of my OP. L4D2 runs on the Source Engine, which in turn is Steam-dependent. Now that I've connected the dots for you, shall I color the picture for you too?
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  25. Post #25
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    Steam =! games. Steam is the client, the games will still need linux support
    The article also includes the Source engine, but regardless of that, Valve isn't a dumb company and wouldn't pull something like that.

  26. Post #26
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    Steam =! games. Steam is the client, the games will still need linux support
    It's pretty much already there since the source engine is available for OSX.

  27. Post #27
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    Dude... Left 4 Dead 2 is being ported to Linux, as stated in the Email of my OP. L4D2 runs on the Source Engine, which in turn is Steam-dependent. Now that I've connected the dots for you, shall I color the picture for you too?
    It doesn't matter what you or I can infer, it matters what the evidence provides. L4D2 could be ported with a Steam stub, to test if it's viable to port games to Linux.
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  28. Post #28
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    Steam =! games. Steam is the client, the games will still need linux support
    Being able to use Steam chat while in Linux is pretty valuable.
    That's why people were so excited about the iOS/Android Steam app. Obviously those clients don't run games, but you can chat with friends while on the bus.

    Secondly, there are quite a few games that are on Steam that have a Linux port like all of the HIB games. Of course Steam isn't required to play Linux games, but it'd be niice to have.

    Thirdly, Steam for Linux could legitimize Linux gaming like it did for OS X.
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    Being able to use Steam chat while in Linux is pretty valuable.
    That's why people were so excited about the iOS/Android Steam app. Obviously those clients don't run games, but you can chat with friends while on the bus.

    Secondly, there are quite a few games that are on Steam that have a Linux port like all of the HIB games. Of course Steam isn't required to play Linux games, but it'd be niice to have.

    Thirdly, Steam for Linux could legitimize Linux gaming like it did for OS X.
    Yeah can't wait to talk to my bffs on my sme server
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  30. Post #30
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    Yeah can't wait to talk to my bffs on my sme server
    I don't know, but everytime I see a post of you, you always seem to bash other peoples opinions.

    On topic:
    If the source engine will be available on linux, I'd immediately switch to linux as my main OS.
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  31. Post #31
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    January 2011
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    I don't know, but everytime I see a post of you, you always seem to bash other peoples opinions.

    On topic:
    If the source engine will be available on linux, I'd immediately switch to linux as my main OS.
    Same. I'm almost pretty much done with Windows anyway, since I pretty much only play HiB games, Desura and Minecraft.

  32. Post #32
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    August 2010
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    But how will it be avaible? As a make script that grabs the binary files and installs them on the system, or as .rpm/.deb/pacman packages
    (since steam is closed-source)

  33. Post #33
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    August 2010
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    If the source engine will be available on linux, I'd immediately switch to linux as my main OS.
    Nah, if source sdk gets ported with fully working hammer editor on linux, then more people would move away from windows.

  34. Post #34
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    January 2007
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    Nah, if source sdk gets ported with fully working hammer editor on linux, then I would move away from windows.
    Fixed

    I think a LOT more people use steam for gaming than for modding
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  35. Post #35
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    Broken

    I think a LOT more people use steam for gaming than for modding
    FTFY.

    He said 'more people', not 'most people', and he's completely right. There are definitely people who produce content on Windows because they have to.
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  36. Post #36
    I will huff and puff and FLIP YOUR FUCKING TABLES
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    October 2005
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    I really really do hope this happens...Even if the Steam library doesn't have a lot of Linux support, it'd just be nice to use Steam chat and have a nice game manager...
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  37. Post #37
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    FTFY.

    He said 'more people', not 'most people', and he's completely right. There are definitely people who produce content on Windows because they have to.
    Oh!
    I mistakenly thought he meant that more people would go because of an SDK, not because of games.

    Sorry
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  38. Post #38
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    I would use the SDK and Hammer in Linux if it were more stable than it's Windows counterpart. Even if that means taking a slight performance hit.
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    November 2011
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    I really really do hope this happens...Even if the Steam library doesn't have a lot of Linux support, it'd just be nice to use Steam chat and have a nice game manager...
    I think that most of the games that are available for OSX at the minute will probably be ported, and any upcoming games that will be ported to OSX will too. They're both *NIX systems and both use OpenGL.
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  40. Post #40
    I DEFY YOU, HEART MAN!
    Kepler's Avatar
    December 2011
    391 Posts

    3:50

    "A Linux Port"
    For a Source game. CONFIRMED
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